nate_1979

DHS does have some responsibility.. But not "front line" responsibilty, they should not be the first response, that should come from something more local. It did not in this case.. As you said, not exclusive FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

I agree that people need to take some responsibility to take care of themselves.. I think the city needs to take some responsibility to help those people in said city that legitimately can not help themselves. And I dont feel it's the federal gov't's job to do such. People complain that the fed gov't does too much on a local level, now they dont do enough.. WTF. This is one case that the local gov't needs to suck up some responsibility (and ultimately the local residents) .. Tell you one more thing not helping, seeing the leadership of that city freak out on TV (mayor, chief of police, etc) ... City leaders should be able to control themselves, it does not help a situation when people see their own leaders freak out. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

This isnt like crime, where if something crosses state lines it becomes Federal.. Sorry, not buying it. YES, The Federal Gov't needs to provide aid. NO, The Federal Gov't is *NOT* responsible for "pre-emergency" planning such as City Evacuation Plans. Nothing says that a city evacuation plan cant ask for federal assistance if needed, but that is why we have a multi-level gov't. The CITY is supposed to handle things first, what they cant handle should goto the state, then to the Feds.. I have heard nothing of a request for the Federal Gov't to help evacuate NO (prior to the incident), have you? The federal gov't has been a little slow at responding after the incident, but this does not mean that they are to blame for the entire situation. And yes, they should have done more with the levees, they should have done that MANY MANY years ago, they should have built them origionally to withstand a larger hurricane... Yup. The CITY should have had a plan for what to do if a storm that can threaten the city is approching. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

84 Olds Cutlas 91 Olds Cutlas ?? Geo Storm (94 I think?) 92 Chevy S-10 92 Jeep Charokee 03 Ford ZX2 FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Good for you.. Good story. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Sorry, just responding to crap, not taking the time to spell check.. My bad. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

LOL... whatever, .. I have stated that the Gov't failed you guys by not having plans to get everyone out.. But *NOT* the fed gov't. I understand not everyone had a way out, and yes this is something that had to be brought to my attention as, your right, I didnt really think about that at first and I'm sorry for that. You got me, for a short time I was not thinking of "everyone" those without the means to leave.... *BUT* I still do not have much sympothy for those who just didnt bother to try and get out, lazyness does not earn any respect or sympothy from me. If that makes me "racest" or whatever, tough shit. As someone else said, I'm sure many more people *COULD* have gotten out, if they would have just thought about it and given it a little bit of effort. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

No, I do not feel that Pres. Bush is to blame for the response. Basicly what I feel is that the City should of had some better plans in place for evacuation, seems to me they just started making crap up as the storm started making it's way towards them. I think that the response of FEMA was crap, but then again they said before the storm that they may not be able to respond immediately, also as been stated here, people should have gotten off their fat lazy asses and gotten the hell out. Period. I dont have alot of sympathy for alot of these people who simply didnt try. For those that did, and could not get out, that's horrible, and that's where I feel the city and state levels failed, NOT the fed gov't. Had the city / state asked for assistance with an evacuation (which they didnt even think of I'm sure) then the fed gov't would have been a POS for not helping, .. but no request made. (until after the shit hit the fan) Now another thing I see on TV is people complaining that medical is not available near the superdome.. Once again, I think one thing said prior was that nobody will be there to help until conditions are safe... Who here thinks conditions are safe? We have cops getting shot at, helocopters getting shot at, medical personel were being attacked... I'm sure many docters would have been more than willing to help, that is until the people of the city started becoming "thugs" and are making it dangurous for people to help them! As others have posted, nobody here is doing anything to improve their own situations, they are all just sitting around waiting for someone else to help them... How lame. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

"No idea of the severity of the storm" PLEASE, PLEASE, dont go there. People knew WTF was coming at them. It was not some secret, MANDATORY evacuation, this is not something that happens for every hurricane. I think it was pretty clear that they knew this hurricane was going to cause major damage and loss of life, nobody should have been taken by total surprise when the storm turned out to be big. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

USS Cole FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Exactly. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

All of what you say goes against the "it's Bush's Fault" thought process used / prefered here and in the US in general lately .... Go take your nonsense elsewhere FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Hi Nate Which people? Folks shooting at the firemen Yep Refugee's from N.O.? R.I.P. The people shooting at anything, firemen, helocopters, cops, screw them.. Rest of post self censored.... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

The evacuations were ordered prior to the destruction of the city... This is when the city could have used better planning, and this is what I was refering to... Clearly it's too late for the city to save itself now. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Yup, seems I've heard alot of "The last hurricane didnt take this place, nor the one before it, we've never left, so I'm staying (I've stayed)" Oooopsy! FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Ok that really sucks... But, this is the fault of the federal government how? The city of NO should have had planes for evacuations, considering that the city is below water level, and that this isnt the first time that the possibilty of something like this happening has come up with them. This evacuation plan should have been figured out LONG AGO by the CITY. Everyone is claiming that the federal gov't dropped the ball.. I dont believe this is the case. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Which news network is this on,... That's bullshit, ... Fuck these people. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

UGH! Some of the shit pissing me off about the coverage of this whole mess: 1: People bitching that aid didnt get there fast enough, not enough aid. They claim that we saw this coming well before it hit, and that people should have been ready ----- I call BULLSHIT. I seem to remember two things on the news prior to the hit, 1) GET THE HELL OUT! MANDITORY EVACUATION! and 2) IF YOU CHOOSE TO STAY, IMMEDIATE HELP WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE UNTIL THINGS ARE SAFE FOR OUR PEOPLE. Yes, we saw the hurricane coming, and I think the response for that was fine. NOBODY saw the flood of NO coming, they figured some waves might crash into the city, put a little bit of water in it, something they could pump out without much poblem... NEVER saw what we have here, dont claim that we should have seen this. 2: The new comments that I'm seeing now that people are saying the rescue effort is raciest, people claiming that the black people are being left behind.. GET FUCKING REAL. I'm so sick of this shit, NO has a BLACK mayer, they have MOSTLY BLACK law enforcement, the city is RUN BY BLACK PEOPLE. I seriously doubt that they are treating white people better, ... Why do these people ALWAYS have to claim this stupid bullshit, I'm so sick of this racest bullshit that always comes up when shit hits the fan. Your not being treated unfair, get over it. 3: People bitching about gas prices: Deal with it, atleast most of us still have gas. The only people I wanna hear bitching about gas is the people that have to wait for 6 hours in line to find the gas station is empty before they get to the pump. Lets bitch towards something more constructive such as getting the vehicals that run on alternitive fuels ON THE ROADS. THey have been developed, lets get this shit rolling. This gas crap isnt going to get any better, this is just a little sample of what's to come down the road really... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Just keeps getting worse... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

The point going back to: Where are you getting the energy required for electrolysis? It takes a ton of electricity to make this happen... Mabey people are refering to the Hydrogen cars that have a water byproduct? FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Crazy skydivers! sheesh.... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Believe there was 8 or 9 people in my FJC... I am the only one who has gotten licensed (so far), however I am 1 of 2 from the class who has not "quit", and the two of us rock!

I see this happening very soon... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

Agree.... If I was there, your damn right you'd see me in those stores trying to find anything to drink or eat.... When you need something, and there is nobody there to sell it or give it to you, you gotta do what you gotta do. As for the assholes just taking stuff they dont need.... FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.

All I know is that I just tried to buy airline tickets to go back home today... To get home, a trip that not long ago cost me around $300 was quoted at almost $1000... Needless to say, I'm aborting that trip. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't.