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***There will be no doubt after i show my evidence Oct 4. I will bring it all and I willing to show any local news reporter at the Seattle Times etc tv etc.. the composites will amaze you.. so call them its undeniable. No doubt??? Undeniable?? You're new in this neighborhood aren't you Paul? Let me show you around. There are folks here who doubt gravity, time and mortality among other things. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Did several jump tests with ham radio walkie talkies. Haven't done CB frequencies yet. Results with 2 meter (146 MHz) walkie talkie gear was telling. Opening at 14,000 feet I made numerous contacts. Best distance from over Byron CA DZ was about 90 miles. Many contacts in the 20-30 mile range. Range decreased as I descended but I had no trouble working a friend with a similar walkie talkie who was on a mountain peak about 12 miles away even after I landed. I tried both 5 watts and 1 watt settings. Didn't make much difference. CB gear would probably give similar results. I'll try it but 71 vintage CB walkie talkies are big, heavy and require antennas that telescope to about 3 feet. I'd have to make a larger radio pouch. It's on my to do list. I've seen no evidence that Cooper used radios of any kind. I just wish he had. Ham radio and skydiving are two hobbies I really enjoy. A surprising number of folks who post here are ham operators including Guru, Snowmman, Sluggo, Georger and some others who I can't recall at the moment. My buddies and I have flown a 20 meter (14 MHz) 4 watt PSK 31 digital beacon with an end fed trailing wire dipole. If the ionospheric conditions are favorable our signal can be heard THOUSANDS of miles away. So far no such luck. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Thats true Jo. I dont know whether to thank or curse you for starting this forum. I find it hard to condemn Blevins for promoting a FREE DBC book. Anybody who pays even minimal attention would see repeated opportunities to get BLAST gratis. Bruce is similarly generous with his early manuscript versions. I would be surprised if Greycop gets many takers at $20 for a self published book. Time will tell. If people were getting rich off Cooper publications then I would resent promotion here, but that's not the case. I just can't get worked up about people promoting free stuff in this forum. Will be jumping again on Oct 12. Fall is my favorite time for skydiving. We get some awesome Golden State views from exit altitude and the weather is usually mild. On the sunset load, things really do look golden below. I turn 64 soon and am so grateful to be able to still skydive. Most of my cohorts have hung their rigs up for good. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote Destroyed? How can you destroy a dump? People can bring all sorts of stuff here. The gatekeeper doesn't sort for content, just behavior. You can ignore the useless trash and dive for the good stuff. The homeless guys and the poor in India know how. We aren't destroyed, just cluttered. There is no groundwater pollution, no lead poisoning. It's just words. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I'd love to see the RFPs, bid sheets, expense reports or whatever documentation was used for sourcing the hookers that the CIA hired as part of MK Ultra. And how about the LSD? How did they score it? BKs stuff is crazy, but one could have said the same thing about MK Ultra. I dont believe BK's story at all, but the govt has done some seriously wacky stuff. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

BK wrote So you just get a free pass to expose this sordid conspiracy Bob? That's a sweet deal. How did you negotiate it? And if you think the FBI essentially runs the Bureau of Prisons you haven't spent any serious time with either agency. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Blevins wrote Amen brother. The Cooper Vortex sucks in money and sanity as well. It's a malevolent blender swirl. Coreolis, Occam, and other sages chopped, diced and macerated into a stupifying smoothie where logic and reason are pulverized. Drink up mates. Ahead lies the Vortex. Batten down the hatches. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I met Karen Truitt at the Portland symposium and enjoyed talking with her and her partner Coleman, an African American pro musician who grew up with Jimi Hendrix. My wife and I had breakfast with them. Nice people. What I remember most about Karen is her concern for Jo. When Marla made her debut at the symposium and basically told everybody that the FBI was going to close the case based on her revelations about LD all Karen could think about was Jo's welfare. She was very worried that the shock would hurt Jo. I told her that although Jo was invested in Duane being Cooper I thought she could handle it OK if it were proven that Cooper was someone else. It would be closure and that would bring some relief no matter who was IDd as Cooper. Karen seemed healthy and vibrant then. It's hard to imagine that she is no longer with us. I hope her last days were peaceful. She and Coleman seemed very close. I'm sure he is feeling her loss deeply. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Couldnt find the build date for the Battleground VORTAC (which used to be the Portland VOR I think). If I had to guess I'd say mid to late 1950s. This might lead you to further info: From an aviation blog. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Once a VOR station is built it usually only needs periodic attention from FAA navaid technicians. These electronics techs would have no work related interest in small uncontrolled airports with no FAA navaids (ILS, VOR, marker beacons etc). A pilot who regularly flew in that area might know most of the strips and where the VOR station was sited. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

The F 106 B 727 speed mismatch excuse for an intercept failure is suspect. The F 106 was a fast interceptor (Mach 2 plus at higher altitudes) but it could fly a pattern at reasonable speeds. Even the ultra fast SR 71 could fly a landing pattern at speeds reasonably compatable with normal jet aircraft (stall speed 150 knots if light on fuel at the end of a mission). I'm not buying the speed excuse for the F 106 intercept failure. I'll bet it was an MA-1 failure. Stall speed on a dirty F 106 was about 107 knots. They would have had no trouble flying at 150-170. If they were going too fast and were overshooting the 727 S turns would have solved the problem. The lumbering C 130 cargo ship from McChord found and tracked the NWA 727 with no airborne intercept radar, no SAGE data link, just good airmanship. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Blevins, What is your source for the above statement? Where were the SAGE radar antennas located? On the Soderlind matter again, Soderlind had reportedly worked up his estimate of the jump point before the airliner even landed in Reno. Robert99 I worked at Hughes, the company that made the F 106's MA-1 fire control system. I can tell you that the MA-1 and its bidirectional SAGE data link had serious reliability problems. To me it was no surprise that the F 106s were unable to find the NWA 727 if they were relying on the data link with SAGE. I'll bet it wasn't working. Hughes did over 60 patches to try to improve reliability. The goal of a robust reliable low MBTO MA-1 system was never realized. In one version, it used an 8 KB rotating magnetic drum as its hard drive. Yes, EIGHT K. Imagine how good the programmers had to be. When the MA-1 worked it was an amazingly capable system. The SAGE controllers could take over control of the F 106 through its data link coupled autopilot and fly it to a target intercept. It essentially put a ground based large aperture networked radar system into an aircraft. Looking up at airborne radar targets is MUCH better than looking down. No ground clutter interference. Want more detail? http://www.f-106deltadart.com/sage_system.htm 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote from Wikipedia Although static line jumps and freefall jumps are radically different, S/L jumps used to be the standard training prep for your first freefall solo jump. They didnt have AFF available when I learned in 1968. You did a few S/L jumps, typically a minimum of 5, and then you did a solo hop and pop freefall. You gradually worked up to longer delays as you taught yourself how to freefall stable. I wouldnt rule out a suspect simply because they had no freefall experience. If you pulled off the 727 steps, it would be very similar to an S/L jump. No tumbling, no spinning. It would look just like the SAT 727 jump videos shot in Thailand. Initial partial inflation, extraction, squidding during canopy opening and then you are under an open canopy. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Jo, you are trying to see a pattern in noise. The small airstrips without FAA operated Navaids wouldn't get any attention from the techs who work on VORs. Many of those so called "signal towers" had nothing to do with aircraft navigation. Cooper had no means by which to use VOR signals for planning his exit point. You keep coming back to VORs but they had no utility for Cooper. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Good one Amazon. I needed a laugh after the Seahawks humiliated the Niners this evening. Bad tandem pair camera flyer canopy collision in Argentina. 3 badly injured. I dont like those tandem master super wide angle wrist cams that are putting camera flyers out of business but I guess they increase safety by eliminating a collision risk. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Nope. I would bet that it never happened. Norjack wasn't about spying, espionage etc. It was just a clever money crime. Not CIA stuff. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I don't think the Amboy canopy (made of twill weave material, not rip stop) was DBC's but it remains a puzzling mystery. What lies beneath the ground? The canopy suspension lines couldn't be pulled completely out so they were cut. The risers, which may lie beneath the ground, could give a lot of useful info. If they had Capewell cutaway fittings that would tell us something. If the chute had no risers and the link fittings between the lines and the risers were not present that would tell us something. It's sure worth a dig. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote SCOTCH??? Jo, as a KY girl you know that's a no no. It has to be Bourbon. What would people think if they saw you drinking Scotch in Marion County KY? You'd be run out of town. I know I am speaking for many others here when I say that I hope that your health improves. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo, Hope your hospital tests show no issues. We won't attack you until you are back. You wrote If it was the only yacht you were ever on then of course it was the biggest yacht you were ever on. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Georger wrote There's a fresh idea. Hey Amazon, ever see any mini/micro bergs coming down the river in this area? If so, do they ever have debris inside the ice? I'll be jumping on Sunday. On some loads I am 3x the age of any other jumper on the King Air. It's actually a great sport for bridging age gaps. If you aren't a sky menace or a jerk, an old jumper can get along fine with the young maniacs. Where else do you see white hair mixing socially with purple and orange? I do worry about the kids that seem to push the edge further every time they jump. I've seen some hook turn swoops that make me cringe. You can't keep pushing the edge forever, but they dont seem to get it. Perhaps they will mellow with age... 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Mr Shutter wrote You have described an eddy in the Cooper Vortex: a maddening spiral, a Mobius strip that makes you think you are getting somewhere and you end up back where you started. We even had a Siren calling, her name was Marla. The voyage between Scylla and Charybdis was a milk run compared to where our Ship of Fools blindly ventures. Perhaps a Kraken will end our torment. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

My Cooper twenty has no tan line. Darn. Those ones are probably worth more. Occam keeps telling me crooks dont throw money away. The money at Tena Bar says accident to Mr. Occam, not an intentional plant. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

3 Quick release snaps that connect the leg straps and the chest strap. 2 Capewell releases to just dump the canopy. But what would I know I only have well over 100 water landings and I appear to still be here. Parachutes and harnesses are scary... you die if you use those don't cha know I only have one water landing (an intentional one) so I'll defer to Amazon. A night landing in deep water dramatically increases the chance of a Cooper fatality in my opinion. Experienced skydivers have drowned in unintentional day water landings in summer weather within easy swimming distance of shore. Maybe Amazon can explain why these have occurred. My guess is panic sets in, they cant get out of the harness and drown. Georger did a simple but convincing analysis of the chances that Cooper landed in water. The odds were VERY low as I recall. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Is this your boat BK? See attached. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote You too Jo. What's good for the goose.. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.