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Wasn't this tried with turkeys in an old WKRP episode? "There's turkeys landing everywhere!! Oh the horror!!" Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Yes, you should wait for your instruction to ensure that you get the correct information. Skydiving is a performance-oriented sport, which means one should watch and do. If you start learning the wrong thing off the internet, you'll start doing on your own. If you do on your own and learn bad muscle-memory techniques, that'll mean just that much more your instructor will "haves to unlearn ya." Please be patient and waits till ya get in front of your instructor. And, stop watching bad movies... Edited to add: since you appear enthusiastic - feel free to go to http://www.uspa.org/publications/SIM/2005SIM/SIM.htm and learn right from the manual. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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Would that be a non-intentional cutaway? Good Luck. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I always wanted to write a song about, "Riser Hickeys." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Still working on it. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Scott has taught and written that each canopy has different characteristics. Some will extand the glide ratio better using brakes, while others will extend the G/R better using rear risers. With that as a foundation, the performance objectives of the "A" license and BillVon's downsizing checklist, I encourage students to make several 10,000' hop-n-pops and learn how to do all the things on BV's list. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Please fill out as much of your profile as possible. There are strengths and weaknesses to either instructional methodology. AFF's main strength is you'll learn to fly your body better and faster. It's main weakness is information overload/performance anxiety. For some, the learning objectives for each dive overpower the enjoyment of freefall. S/L's main strength is you'll learn to become a good parachutist before you become a good skydiver. As a result it'll take you 15-20 skydives to learn as much as what someone who went thru AFF in 8-10 dives. The bottom line is that everyone learns differently and has different financial situations. No matter which methodology you choose, it takes a minimum of 25 skydives to get your "A" license and either method will *generally* arrive you at the same point with the same level of skill. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Both have their positives and negatives. Contrary to some opinions, both have as much opportunity to have a malfunction as the other, just as both have about the same opportunity to cause injury if landed improperly. My personal opinion is that I like teaching square reserves because I only have to teach one way of canopy control and landings rather than two separate classes for this reason - it's going to be a lot of information for a student in the first jump course; why add more. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

After a day of tandems and the opportunity to go up on the sunset load for a fun jump with my sport rig, I find myself saying, "Don't throw the drogue, don't throw the drogue..." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Same size head. Use a Z1 XXL. When it arrived, I took the top center out and stripped some of the padding down along the top. Maybe we can get Chad to make us some Anvil helmets Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I don't think you failed. I believe it an overwhelming success when an Instructor provides alternative solutions to a students path of progession. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Thank you for the offer, but I just use my Outlook as a recurring activity set to 110 days. That way it also syncs to my Treo and alerts me there too. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

First, I want to publically apologize to Mirage and Airtec. For me, it has never been about the product; it's been about safety. If it were about the products, I would never steer anyone towards them and I am a champion for both. I want to thank Kelly who was nice enough to cover quite a bit of information with me on the phone this evening and whom has given me great pause. I; for one, probably did a poor job of hollering for information, rather than requesting it. As a result of that, some of us wound up in a circular argument, rather than a proactive discussion and for that I apologize also. I'm still not 100% there, but I am willing to learn and encourage others to do the same. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Those who go through AFF have difficulty with doing HnP's, those who go thru IAD or Static-line have difficulty with going from 3-4K with suddenly finding themselves at 13,5k. To me, one of the best things to come out of the ISP is the blend of all instructional methodologies. Each method has its strengths and weaknesses. AFF is a little too fast and overwhelming for some, while others take to it naturally. S/L and IAD take longer to learn how to fly your body, but "...teaches you how to be a good parachutist, before learning how to be a skydiver." [Germain] You did well and there are certain to be other moments of apprehension and doubt. Please be encouraged by what you've learned rather than how you felt. You've now learned how much time you actually have on a lower exit and can build on that with the confidence of having been already successful. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Kelly, Of all the discussions and threads regarding this; for me the above quote has been the most logical. As you point out, this has never been about the product; it's been about safety regarding reason, development, testing and compatability. While not thoroughly there yet, your response gives me pause. PM sent. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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However, there is a big difference between the covered grommet of the back pack and the distributed channel of the reserve D-bag, whereby there is not a continual brass to steel contact. Then why aren't they still there? I am one of those people. And, these questions and suggestions are being asked directly of the manufacturer on their thread. My motivation is not to create "gear fear," it's actually to reduce it. I'm more afraid of one overseas instance referred to as a "rigging error" causing the rerouting of the cutter unit within one to three months without adequate input, review, testing and acceptance industry-wide, than I am of my AAD's current configuration. For years, I have stood on the rooftops and chanted the chant, "If you can afford to skydive, you can afford an AAD." I'm afraid I can no longer do that. I've made my position clear on this and will no longer belabor the issue. I'm done with this. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Mike, 182's can be a bit on the difficult side to exit with a tandem. I would venture to speculate that you did a diving exit. If that is the case, then yours and the TI's body are sideways to the relative wind for a second or two while you're both getting into your arch. If you should happened to have stuck a leg out, dropped one down, bent at the waist, etc., then its possible that's what induced the beginning of the side-apin. While in the door, be sure to keep your head on your TI's shoulder and as soon you rock forward to leave on the count, make sure to aggressivley snap your body and legs into the arch position as instructed. I would encourage you to go over it with your instructor again several times just to get the muscle memory down before your next dive. I'm confident s/he will work with you to ensure you're more successful on the next dive. On a separate note, please don't be too hard on yourself about what happened and do your best to correct it, put it behind you and focus on moving forward. No matter which method of instruction is chosen, most every student had one or more things that needed to be corrected at some level - myself included. Good luck. Keep us posted. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Sanes, Please fill out the rest of your profile. What type of aircraft did you exit from, please. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

What if we gave riggers a signed notarized waiver (assumption of risk) stating that we were informed of the SB and chose not to have it done? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Others did it for me when I was in training; I owe it to others who need it while they're in training. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

The best "word" definition in this case is a partial step through. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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