BIGUN

Thank you for the compliment, Jerry.

Initially. If all guns must be registered and accounted for cradle to grave, then when the police come across a gun that is not registered; they confiscate and smelt it. There will always be the "survivalist" mentality of keeping their guns locked away - in case. But, they would be locked away. It would take time, but as you say, "It's an entry point." If the NRA had a brain in their head, they would realize the amount of money they could make in education, training, etc. instead of "The libs are coming after your 2nd amendment rights!!!" I joined the NRA for one year back in the mid-80's. They must have spent ten times as much sending me fliers of fear a couple of times a month. And, we were done. Ya know, my plan is no different than what we had in the military, cradle to grave responsibility, proper training, maintenance and storage, personal accountability, no walking around base with a weapon on your hip, etc. I really don't see what the big deal is migrating that to a civilian populace.

You keep saying what we shouldn't do. What would you do.

You're right, Joe. My mistake. We shouldn't do anything.

The point IS: Every state that has enacted permit-less (open carry) has had a mass school shooting in less than a year after it passed. The point IS: There is NO criteria restricting the use of carrying any specific type of weapon. Once its open carry; you can carry anything, cause ya know its your fuckin right to off children. And, before you start the looky looky, ban assault weapons - that is a silly premise. Every weapon is an assault weapon. It's what they were designed to do. Assault. Until America wakes the fuck up and realizes we need owner responsibility that is mandated (because God knows your fucking freedom is more important than a child's life) And, the dems will decry the almighty AR-15 or repeal the 2nd which will only raise more fucking money and the reps will blame trans and every fucking thing else until more children are fucking dead. Rinse. Repeat. How many times are we going to let this record skip before we change the tune. That's the fucking point. A complete Gun Owner's Responsibility Bill. Ownership tracking from cradle to grave, weapon education and recurrency, proper storage, 10 years for use of a gun in the commission of a crime (bet domestic violence with a gun would go way down), etc. etc. we can discuss it more with the next fucking school shooting, cause ya know . . . we'd rather spend more time typing on SC than spending a few minutes writing in the text box to our congressional and senatorial leadership. Get it, now?

Yet another state that enacted permit-less carry and had a mass school shooting event in less than a year.

I know what you meant, Ken. As for that of the shooter. The shit show on twitter has begun.

C'mon, Joe. You know me better than that. And, you've read all my suggestions including adding ten years with no parole if a weapon is used in the commission of a crime. Which some from your tribe said was a bit much.

Bans don't work. We need a Gun Owner Responsibility bill across the board.

I understand. Please understand there's "many a" Democrat, gun-toting, Christian. As long as we continue to point at who's saying it rather than why we need it _as a nation_ and get both aisles to sit the fuck down and talk with each other and not at each other. Nothing. We been talking about this logically for years now, but our politicians are just fucking inept. Both of ours.

Evening, Jerry. I know what everyone meant, but it was getting close to being mean-spirited with the T's & P's stuff. It's how they grieve. I'm really angry about this one. It's going to be a political bullshit volley of weapons vs. the child was a trans, Biden calling for an Assault weapons ban INSTEAD of both aisles developing a Gun Owner Responsibility Bill. We have the money for TSA which is a joke, but not money to secure our children in school. It's all theater. Keith

Gentlemen, you're right at the edge of being giddy over someone's lost child - because they're Christian.

Course, the parents probably didn't review the curriculum or syllabus, but that's prolly the Principal's fault also.

General Cavazos was not only one hell of a warrior; he was also brilliant. EDIT: Never met him. By reputation.

Technically, they do. Although I've never been a fan of the "pay or else" marketing plan.

There's two sides to this story; 1) it was in the infancy of COVID (pre-vaccine) and Doctors around the world were throwing anything they could to make it stop, 2) the inmates had side effects, but did not die. Lastly, I "think" Doctors are bound by the ethics of disclosure. Not sure why he wouldn't have told them and had them sign an assumption of risk, so what he did/if he did, was inexcusable.

My understanding is this happened the morning of the shooting and the father asked if his son could stay in school. It was locked. The code was, 0000 <FP> They did more than provide him access. They bought him the weapon he used. An interesting read on parental liability. https://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/rpt/2011-R-0061.htm

Bigun was not wrong. He chose not to tell the whole story. Big difference.

Contempt is more for those in positions of authority who do not respect the position and the responsibility that comes with it. "Disregard for the rule of law." Not at all. Nothing but respect for it. First, allow me to apologize to the group. I usually jump in the deep end and this time, I just kinda stuck my toe in and waded around the edges. Been out of town for a few days and thought about it and probably shouldn't have brought it up. Yes, it was my experience and no; there was no invitation. My apologies.

I know, right. Probably would have shared more if I hadn't gone to a secret closed door meeting at the Senator's office.

All good points, Joe. The above portion resonates with me. IMO, we lost this battle when we settled for teaching children how to be sheep in active shooter drills.

Brother, between 2001 and the end of the war, there were more children killed in the U.S. by gunfire, than our own military killed in Iraq/Afghanistan. In fact, roughly 7,000 children were killed by gunfire in the five years after Sandy Hook (2012-2017) than the 6,900 U.S. military killed during the war. Think about that for awhile. Then get pissed off.

Meh. Just use a Ruger Precision - one .308 round at a time.

That's the fallacy. Regulation != Infringing on Rights. One can still own guns; but rights and ownership come with responsibility. It would be nice if we didn't have to regulate people regarding guns, but as long as they're going to be irresponsible, then regulations will need to be emplaced. Somehow, I'm of the opinion that killing kids in schools is not equal to responsible.

There's no limit.