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No comment. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You can contact Steve B. at Skydive Spaceland. As one of the co-authors of the Tandem Progression method, he keeps annual records of total tandems to student to A License. His retention rate is fairly high and higher than AFF. Regardng Static-Line - If it is a 182 DZ, the S/L method is the most cost efficient for the student and generates the highest margin for the DZ. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

That is just so damn sexy. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

If you come to SkyFest this year, remind me to tell you about the three carjackers on my way to New Orleans a couple of days after Katrina. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Hambone, While I understand your position and encourage you to do what you feel best, I'm also inclined to share some thoughts with you during your decision-making process. My _guess_ is this _may_ have been one of your first experiences with this type of situation and are going thru a mortality phase. My first mortaility phase was at age 18 when I watched a group of fellow soldiers crash in an aircraft at the end of a runway and burn to death. Hearing the screams as they passed while trying to save them. I didn't sleep for a week. Fortunately, those with me (the military "family") all talked about it and comforted each other until we accepted that this would not be the first in our military career. I mean if you're not willling to face death up close and personal, then you shouldn't be wearing the pickle suit. Over the years, I would get to experience many more such incidents, each no less saddening than the last. When I first started skydiving in the early 1980's, While on leave, I went to the Nationals in Muskogee, OK (home). It was there I witnessed one of the Golden Knights tragically go in after chopping his main. It was as a reesult of his death that we no longer have rubber bands on the reserve D-bag. Over the years, I would witness many more skydiving incidents and here again, each no less saddening than the last - but, with each came knowledge and change for prevention. If one does a swoop that results in their demise - that is their decision. But, I'm sure this incident is more thought provoking than most in that while accidental, could have been avoided and even more importantly did not have to result in one taking out another. It has left many sad and angry. However, I believe that based on this incident and the skill levels involved that the issue will surface more to the top for change and prevention. Many, myself included have championed for more canopy control training, certifications, USPA involvement (recommndations), DZO participation, etc. While our natural instinct is to retract from the sport in order to avoid, one could postulate that it's more important to embrace the incident with your skydiving "family," remain a part of the community and be a fellow educator based on experience as to how to avoid an unneccesary incident. Consider the possibility that being a beacon of educational light may help our sport more than a fading candle of darkness. What you've experienced in the past can make a difference in the future. You see the theme is change and prevention. People will espouse numerous variations of statistics comparing the safety of skydiving over driving, motorcycle riding, bass fishing, etc. But there's only one statistic that matters to me.... When I started skydiving, there were approximately 10K active skydiving members in the USPA, now there's approximately 30K members and hundreds of thousands more skydives per annum, yet approximately the same number of incidents. That is an impressive safety path. Believe it or not, we do learn, police ourselves, change and in some cases - invent ways to be safer. Had the SkyHook been deployed a couple/three years ago when two experienced jumpers chopped at the WFFC convention at less than 1000' - they might still be with us. The SkyHook will be an awesome tool in our arsenal of safety to prevent such incidents in the future. Good luck with whatever decision you make, but I do hope you return and take the next generation to an even safer plateau. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Well, if you find something that you'd like re-sized to fit, you can ask for assistance in Bonfire and there's multiple folks that will have you email it to them (there's an upload limitation of x bytes in the forums) and most will be happy to help you out - myself included. Having said that, we're very partial to avatar cleavage. Welcome to skydiving and the forums. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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Edit Profile on the menu bar User Profile Scroll down to the bottom where it says "Icon:" Browse for picture (10 KB, 65x75 pixels. JPG only) Select the radio button for "Current Custom Image." Select the "Make Profile Changes" button on the bottom. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

What I said was - I would move my gun to the dashbaord and set it down. I never said anything about brandishing. Brandishing is defined as: "...when the person exhibits any deadly or dangerous weapon in a rude, angry or threatening manner to any person in the city." And, here in Oklahoma; brandishing is a Class C Misdemeanor. Hell, we still drive around with our weapons on the dashboard or in the back window on the rifle rack. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Welcome. When I read your name I couldn't but laugh. There's a thread in Bonfire about pickup lines and I thought, I wonder how many times she's heard, "oooooo, I've always wanted to ride a Harley Davidson" or some other ride a Harley reference. Enjoy our little house and jump into the pool more often. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I usually just take my gun out from under the seat and put it on the dashboard where they can see it. End of rage. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Dell will still install XP on a new laptop. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Scott, Have you seen this for Garmins? https://gpssignal.com/jumpmaster.htm https://garmin.com/products/etrexVista/download_beta.html Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

It's a two-way street, Brother. Some pilots don't adjust the green light even after five loads have landed in town among power lines. Give me the door long enough to check the airspace and check the spot. If both are on; my group is climbing out the second the light comes on. Now, I do agree with you about some groups I've seen that climb out, take grips, look around, do it again, circle around like a dog looking for a place to shit, then make the count... Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

The context in which you used it was as a verb and not disparaging (to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede. To use it about a person is considered disparaging. I disagree with you on the platform of political correctness. We know it's disparaging when used in the wrong context, but I'm not going to change the tools of my vocabulary or ability to articulate a point because someone not as well-versed in the language _might_ take offense. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You must not know about "the other pile." Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

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My apologies if you took my response as dissention of your actions. You acted and you lived. My response was intended exactly as written - to discuss alternates of choice with your Instructors about being at =/< 1000' and should you find yourself in that situation again (hopefully not). For you, what is that "some point?" And, what would you do? The round table discussion is a great tool in our learning arsenal for everyone at the DZ to learn from the actions of others, alternates of choice and mitigating risks. Edit to Add: I re-read your first post because I didn't remember your saying you had discussed it with your Instructors which was not in there - hence, the suggestion to talk with them. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Please consider a round-table discussion with your Instructors and review USPA SIM Manual; Section 5-1(E): Partial Malfunctions - Section 3 Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Yes. It's a very easy sport to walk away from, but a very difficult sport to get over. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Damn, you guys are good. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

I agree with NWFlyer. A forum as version 1. Moderators could keep a pulse on it over the course of a year. Later, a condolences thread could include a hyperlink to a memorial page to a specific person. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

Same habits since 1980, my Airborne Brother. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.

You may have not read down far enough to the part regarding Doc's experience with her plane crash/ejection and wearing of the helmet. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard.