matthewcline

One of the T-I's that took their Grandfather on his Tandems told me a similar story, but his was with a CIA van and long lost lands. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

But Gov spending is just a shell game in many aspects and creates no true revenue to decrease the debt. Gov Employees, paid from the taxes, so no "real" revenue. Welfare, unemployment, Gov Retirements, and so many other items, are just a shift in a small amount of US held money. Exports, imports , private business' and other None-Gov run corporations are where the money that is tax revenues truly comes from. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

That is fully understandable, since you KNOW nothing of what happened. The case is a done deal. Weber was Dan Cooper, period. Everybody knows it, they just won't give Jo the nod because she puts egg on everyone's face. You are funny, Matt, just like your trainer. So, huff and puff and blow yourself silly. You really don't count in the overall scheme of things. Bing Crosby! Look at Bing Crosby. Or Don Cooper, Jamie will welcome your enthusiasm. Don't argue on the internet when you don't understand the subject, it's retarded. Jo is RIGHT! ...and wrong. You are ALWAYS wrong. Veiled insults and more misleading gobbledygook. Which leads to a step backwards. Just when I thought you had turned over a new leaf and decided to act like and adult, you revert. Kudos on the FB play, well done. I have access to the same info about the case you have, I just choose not to expound upon it like you do. It is fully understandable, like you said, that the FBI looked at Weber, saw him not viable, ruled him out and moved on. No reason to keep digging into his past, they have a pretty large record of it and can account for his time line. Now if You have FACTS to counter it, not just your word (which is well agreed upon here, as "suspect"), place them into evidence. All your links have proven dead ends, your stories picked apart and shown to be incorrect (accept the ones that have nothing to do with the Hijacking). Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

The wars, under or unfunded, sure, the Tax cuts, if they are bad why are both "sides" continuing them? Seems more of a spending issue, going back to the under/unfunded point. Get spending under control and then maybe the debt will go down? What about the rest of the question? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

"The Government needs to step in and spend because the Private sector won't in order to make Savings = Spending" What are they spending? Aren't the private sector holding there monies in fear of a collapse, caused by the Gov's? You say text book economics, but it seems counter productive, to continue to spend what you don't have, and go further into debt with only an occasional pay back. Doesn't the same text book talk about budgets, revenue and expenditures, equal out and equal in, the risk of excessive debt, etc? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

The main thing "awesome" about being a TI is the responsibility. Once one loses sight of that, things can go to hell in a hurry. The truth. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

The first SIGMA I saw in the public was when the Army Tandem Team brought their sets to Fort Campbell in 2000. Paul Rafferety gave me a class on them and then told me TK and Marc said this would be the future of Tandems. Later at the UPT I/E Course, Marc told me that UPT would stop making Vector II specific parts that year (2003) and soon after would start pushing Vector II owners to the Sigma. Marc said they had a few years worth of parts on hand, but once out, they would not make any more. I would imagine that of the Vectors II's out there, very few are still truly air worthy unless a MR is working them over every year. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

It's a writ of mandamus. Basically, a mandatory injunction requiring an official to act. Can failure to do so, lead to a contempt charge? Has it ever in any other situation? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

It is entirely possible that they stopped looking in to D. Weber when they excluded him as a suspect and had no other reason to keep looking into his record or past. If he is not Cooper and the FBI agent is looking for Cooper, he wont keep looking at Weber. He will move on, to other viable suspects. Seems reasonable to me. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

You might have to spell it out a bit for them. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Bill Rataczak = TOG. But in truth had nothing to do with the hijacking other than be on duty that night. McCoy, did a copy cat hijacking, but is Dead. KC, worked or the Airlines and had money saved up. DW, a life long petty criminal has no records to prove any of the things he did but he was involved in every conspiracy from the mid 50's till he died. M"C" busted in and faded out just as fast with a money making story, that fizzled. So, what is next? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Matt: What do YOU consider the above statement you made? Is that not BELITTLING when you state "beneath any decent person". You are only trying to incite me with your postings. Before you directed your derogatory and inflamatory posts at BK and justifiable so due to the nature of his postings. I do not understand this younger generation and what they consider polite and rude. Most of the military I meet in this area are nice. The worse ones are the women in uniform and I wonder why....for instance I asked one military woman (an officer to put her grocery buggy in the correct place as the location she was leaving the buggy in would cause it to roll into the parking spaces assigned to the handicap and create damage to their car). I will NOT recite the vulgarities that came out of her mouth! Most of the military GUYS are great - they open doors for older individuals and note if you have a cane or park in a handicap space. Some of the women - I would love to SLAP across the face. I assume from the nature and knowledge contained in your posts that you are military or work in some type interrogative position thur a government and/or private organization. Yes, I wrote it, you took it as rude, I took it as a statement of fact based on applied observational skills. You keep pleading to not be lumped in with another poster, yet you keep mentioning him in the same posts and even boast of your "bait" tactics and mention a conspiracy theory now! Oye! So you have "proof" that links Duane, show it or let the statement be picked apart. I would also like to see the FBI eating their words info. The actual parts and pieces they say some thing you proved they didn't get right. Matt Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

http://www.tn.gov/safety/driverlicense/classd.shtml You will see why I asked the question. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

In the summer and fall, I get called "Mateo" a lot. So maybe. But still how does one prove that? What ID do I carry every day that says that on it? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

"Well you belittled me and that is rude. Others have done so but in a nicer way. " Please show that to me, so I understand what you consider belittlement. So, the last last of the reply will be a problem, if your keeping the info to your self how can you prove your case? Again what little evidence you have posted/shared doesn't support the theory DW was "Dan Copper" - Solo acting Hijacker or other wise. You have shown he has an extensive petty criminal background, lied a lot, and kept secrets (even from you) for ling periods of time. Using what some have posted here as "evidence" ,my uncle has a good chance of being "Cooper". Vietnam Vet (MACVSOG Operator), Master Parachutist, etc etc, in the Country at the time, and grew up in the area. Only to move quickly in '71... hmmm... Maybe we should go talk to him? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Well, isn't his enforcement point the 1/4 that is still a law? ON a radio show an office neighbor listens too a speaker talked about how "they" sued to get the part tossed the SC upheld, not the 3/4 they did toss. But, my question is how do I prove I am a citizen? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

That is why I used - " " - around the word natural, it is man made, artificial, etc. But economies grow and shrink, even explode or collapse, that is part of the "natural cycle". That lead to my "what if?" Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Maybe we can find out for sure, if she identifies the body? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Well, I think you just sneaked a peek at the deep shit into which our financial system and its overpaid architects have led us. Maybe they should stop meddling in it then? Let is "natural" cycle happen? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Has the "lady knocking" at the door been explained? That part of the story intrigues me. Why did she do that? What was the purpose of it? Was she looking for help? Where did she go afterwards? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Add that they are partnering in Military Maneuvers, with Syria, Russia, Iran, etc. Now add that they are making more weapons purchases and entering "Nuclear Partnership" discussions. Yes - they are not a stable Government, and Yes - they want more influence in the middle east, by pushing out western influence, that is how it is done. Is Israel at risk? Yes, they are, they always are. just like Saudi Arabia, and the USA or any other "western" Gov. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Some of the adjusted numbers say unemployment under Bush was three to four % higher as well as the current number being four to five % higher. If the banks had completely collapsed, how long for the world to recover enough to not be in a global recession? Would it have made the "new" economy stronger? Is this economy "weak" due to all the "band aids" holding it together? Where is the bail out money truly coming from? if every Country is running in a debt, how do they loan what they do not have? Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

Matt, I am NOT being childish. As for searches on the computer I do a very very poor job. I have only DIAL UP and it would take me months to do what some of you can find in moments. That is NOT attacking anyone's credibility - just asking that others make searches that I am NOT able to do on my own. It take me 10 minutes just to get on the computer and to the DZ. I only have AOL and do not have the speed nor the know how to do the quick searches others can do and also do everyday of their lives. YOU are belittling me. Lots of generous individuals have helped me with searchs by way of this thread (especially Snowmman, just to name one). You are beginning to sound like a very Rude Man....how old are you? I keyed in Flight Satchels and found similar cases that resembled the one Duane was in possession of, but was unable to lift a pic to bring to the DZ. Until the other day I did not know to look for FLIGHT SATCHEL - I did not know there was SUCH A THING! There are "others" in this thread who would have and could have pulled it up if they had been able to understand what I was trying to describe. I have described this item for 17 yrs - but, I was just a voice in the wilderness. Thank You for being so "nice" to someone asking for your help. How many tabs have you pulled today? I am NOT beyond asking for help from others and I do so very often. I have not done nor said anything to offend you, so I have found NO excuse for your sudden hostile behaviour toward me If you are not interested in helping this case get solved - why are you here? P.S. The only person whose credibility I question is that of BK. Everyone is aware of that. You stated that what I requested or the assistance I asked for was "beneath any decent person". I am NOT asking anyone to help prove a conspiracy - therefore I would appreciate it if you would refrain from classifying me with BK. Your words say differently. Rude? hmm, you opinion, I see none of it in my posts. In your PM's I have seen it though. Dial up is no reason, age is no reason, they are excuses, and poos ones. If you have proof show it, stop with the "hints", and other "soon to be released break this case wide open" shenanigans. IMO Duane Weber fooled you, many times. His records show no evidence of him being capable of pulling off this caper. You and BK believe he did, fine, now prove it. Stop asking others to make your case for you when they do not believe it, they are doing exactly what they should, disproving your case. That is how this works, you make your assertion, you prove your assertion. Others have placed for better evidence here, for far better suspects, and have been treated worse (by many, including by you and BK) for it. Leave the personal attacks,name calling and childishness to the other guy. Stick to facts, ones you KNOW are facts, and then let the results speak, and accept the outcome, no matter how it makes Duane look as a suspect. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

"No, I am saying TOG planned a "false Flag" Government Operation authorized by Nixon. I accuse nobody. If you dig deeper you will find the parachute packing experience. His pack jobs were a very sought after item. He started out packing all his own, then for others. This is something that has been eliminated from his bios. TOG did the training, which tells you he was a competent experienced jumper. He did some high altitude jumps also. Remember, anything of any importance has been altered or omitted wherever possible. You might try to get his military records, but I know they made major changes in McCoy's records. He was Mennonite (Mormon) and would not take up arms to fight, just like me. He was NEVER in VietNam, me either. You are asking about one of the biggest cover-up legacies in History. It includes MLK's assassination and Jim Jones' Jonestown mass suicide, and perhaps other McCoy involvements. That stuff is all on the internet to read yourself. Search Richard A. McCoy CIA and hang on to your shorts. The ties are the lawyers, follow the lawyers' histories and the book unfolds. It is all in public view. With McCoy, his tie is O'Hara from 1968 through 1975, when Mac got his own undercover crew, "The Dog Boys". Happy reading." Explain that, oddness. And insults again, although much more "professional" sounding this time. Fist it was no "project", only your conspiracy theory claims that. It was a criminal act, there is NO EVIDENCE to support you, only your subject "word". I try no one, but if there is no evidence we need to move one and actually move on and research real evidence. You an Jo both do the same thing, asking the thread to prove your conspiracy. It is you responsibility to prove your conspiracy, not lours, it is ours to prove it wrong, and we have over and over, you just wont admit it yet. IMO all you do is fabricate lies and misdirect the thread. IMO your a hindrance that should not be allowed to stand in the way of progress any more. On another note - I do enjoy the other sight that has developed the flight path and DZ/LZ information from FAA and FBI evidence and is recreating the flight. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!

******************** WHY can't the FBI simplify this: Present about 20 photos of bags (not the whitish bank bag, but the bag that the money went out of that plane in) to me and let me choose the one that was the closest to the one I described to Himmelsbach even though he told me such a bag had NOTHING to do with the crime and that the money was in a white bank bag. I am talking about the container the money was placed into either by the man who delivered the money to the plane or after it was on the plane. If JT is so close to the FBI why can't he get them to do this one simple thing? That is because the FBI does NOT take orders from JT and he has NO connection to the FBI incharge of the investigation. Perhaps you guy need to look at at all of the different articles written about him - and his supposed involvement in exposing various suspect, such as the taxi drivers friend. Then and only then can any of you judge me. Judge the man who was supposedly involved in many stories about Cooper over the yrs and how many different suspect he has backed. JT could not pass a polygraph involving Cooper and the suspects he has supported. Not one of you have met my challenge. Do your research about what I have said - NOT what someone else has said I stated or TRIED to shove down my throat, but what I have wirtten. I have maintained since get go the MONEY did not go out of the plane in a whitish bank bag, but Duane was in possession of the bank bag in 1990. The container the bag was placed in was a satchel in my possession in 1996 and I was told it had NOTHING to do with the crime. The whitish bank bag was placed inside of another container. You make a few assertions with out proof again. You're also approaching this backwards, making BK style demands, and demanding people do YOUR research to prove your assertions. If your so convinced, then you prove it. Look up the pics and say which one you had possession of. Attacking others credibility when yours is suspect is a childish endeavor, and is beneath any decent person. Matt An Instructors first concern is student safety. So, start being safe, first!!!