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I'm not sure where you thought I was 'equating' anything... to compare MD/DOs to Chiros or any other specialty doesn't make a lot of sense as they are entirely different specialties.... one does not work to the exclusion of the other, one is not 'better' than the other, 'smarter' than the other, etc... they are different with different purposes. A DO/MD simply can not do a chiro's job (and if they claim to, they have no idea what they don't know) any more than a chiro can do an MD/DO's job. I'm not sure why number of years of post-graduate education is relevent to this particular topic ... that would be like saying an RN or LPN is not a useful/important part of a health care team as they are not post-graduate degrees and don't have the same number of years of education. Degrading any profession by calling someone 'only' a whatever or 'just' a whatever isn't appropriate. Actually. A Osteopathic physician IS trained in manual medicine. Part of the curriculum includes Osteopathic Clinical Skills - which includes not JUST HVLA, the popping and cracking, but also * Balanced ligamentous tension (BLT) * Counterstrain * Cranial osteopathy * Joint mobilization - articulatory techniques * Lymphatic pump * Muscle Energy Technique (MET) * Myofascial Release * Neuromuscular therapy, trigger point therapy * Soft tissue technique * Visceral manipulation Do I do manual medicine in my office? No. I did a four year residency in OB/Gyn. That is my field of expertise. But I still have the knowledge and use it on my family and friends. (and to insinuate that I "have no idea what I don't know" without knowing what the lectures are in an Osteopathic School is insulting) And I wasn't "degrading" anyone's profession, but in your comment it seemed to me that with the experience that you had knowing people that were in Chiropractic School, that you were equating them. I was just putting the facts out there. There IS a place for Chriopractic Medicine (Manual Medicine). It is good for whole body health. It CAN actually help with asthma and allergies and even GI ailments. But note the "help" - it might not cure the problems. It depends on the WHY's! (and I am NOT saying to throw away the albuterol inhaler, the epi pen or the pepcid) If you have an overactive sympathetic autonomic nervous system or a dysfunctional parasympathetic system, that can interfere many of your internal organs. By correcting problems in the back (muscle tension and alignment of the spine), that can take tension off of some of the ganglia (nerve tissues). Will it fix a bleeding ulcer? No! Go to the ER Might it help with slow transit times, chronic constipation, reflux? Yes. Will it help a heart attack? No! Go to the ER Might it help with palpitations caused by anxiety issues? Yes. Will it make your neck better after a hard landing or a hard opening? DEPENDS!! If you SERIOUSLY injured the disc or impinged the nerve roots, do NOT get your neck popped! If you just strained the muscle, then it might help. But... it's hard to tell you on an internet forum, which of these situations occurred. In fact, it's impossible. There is a lot more to manual medicine than "conventional" medicine gives credit. But it's not a snake oil that will cure everything. It should be part of health and wellness... once it's determined that it's safe and will do no harm.

Being a DO, let me step in here with some real information. To be an MD - generally 4yrs of undergraduate (typically a BS or a BA) generally 4yrs of Medical School Residency of 3-6yrs following Medical School. ("generally" because there are several 6yr programs that combine the undergraduate and the Medical School) To be a DO 4yrs of undergraduate degree (typically a BS or a BA) 4yrs of Medical School Residency of 3-6yrs following Medical School To be a Chiropractor Undergraduate is not currently a requirement, however there are requirements prior to applying 10-12 trimester program (3.3-4yr) Chriopractic Education Elective participation in Postgraduate residency programs available in chiropractic orthopedics, chiropractic radiology and chiropractic neurology. (also found some information on residency programs in pediatrics) While I agree the team approach is best, it is misleading to try to equate all of the educational backgrounds. That being said. I do believe that manual medicine (stretching, "popping" and "aligning") does help with general wellness. But, whether you need an Orthopedist or Neurologist (MD or DO), a DO that specializes in manipulation or a Chiropractor should be based on your individual needs and desires. If you have serious neck problems - don't just look to have things popped. Find out what is wrong first and then select the health care provider that best meets your needs.

The answer on this forum will likely be: "It's W.'s fault."

Just remember... the XY is genetically lacking. They are genetically inferior.

Thank you, Lisa!! I hope that you had a great day yesterday too! Mine was nice... but since I sponsored a Friday the 13th poker game, the rum from Friday night made Saturday a bit loud.

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DUDE.. 9 people are dead because this guy said to ship the peanuts in spite of a test that had turned up positive for Salmonella. Putting company profits over peoples lives is worthy of life in prison Jeanne, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one. Life imprisonment? Yes, and feed him the same sludge his company sold. Along with a few of his upper level management cohorts. With 9 people dead... these guys KNEW what tainted food could do. I think Life in prison for people like him is more than appropriate.. as a LOUD and CLEAR message to those in charge of our food supply.. that GREED caused death will not be tolerated. Its happening over and over and over.. It costs Americans Billions of dollars.. when they sell this tainted crap to people who get sick and some die. Its murder... treat it as such. How about letting the trial proceed and once guilty, THEN allow the judgment to follow? Otherwise, his comment on the witch hunt does rather ring true. Like in the death sentence thread, be SURE of the conviction before the public hanging.

Oh come on. You know that lawyers don't kill people. Doctors do. Seriously though..... there are some people for whom the death penalty is merciful and others for which it is murder. This case.... hard to say, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with that on my conscious.

Might be time to think about working at McDonalds. -besides, with all the policies in place, you wont need doctors. Just hand the people a website with all the cookbook medicine that they need and it will happen automatically, right?

Now THAT is way cool!

Uh-uh … I may have been that patient. I had an ASC-US Pap in 2002. When I came in for the biopsy, the doctor had a layman’s article for me to read in the waiting room. I brought articles from NEJM & the Lancet with me. When I was told “atypical squamous cell” and “biopsy”, I didn’t wait til the day of my appointment to do some research. . Watched the colposcopy … “what are you doing now?” “why?”

OK... since this is in SC already, lets ask a few controversial questions about that movie in this thread. 1. Why would any guy pay to go to one of those brothels (if you could even call it THAT)? Those women were drugged and chained to the beds. How could you fuck them if you had ANY level of respect (for them, for you, for life)? 2. If you were involved in such a "business" and an acquaintance came to you that his daughter was taken by said "business," wouldn't it be wiser to give the girl back?!

neither can mine, billy, neither can mine. so... is it bad if I thought that too when he mentioned his wife's spit in a glass? First thing through my mind - IF SHE'D JUST SWALLOW!? THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! Then I felt horridly guilty thinking that poor girl.... I don't think it's that bad, after all, they shared the same bodily fluids for 9 months. If it was anybody else, I'd be concerned and grossed out. Hell, my wife is grossed out herself! Edited to add: being 5 months pregnant herself, she's not going to get up and go to the bathroom every few minutes, and they both have had a cold lately. Billy.... I don't think YOU'RE getting the .... ummmm.... spit or swallow...... the question isn't about the lil one sharing HER body fluids......

neither can mine, billy, neither can mine. so... is it bad if I thought that too when he mentioned his wife's spit in a glass? First thing through my mind - IF SHE'D JUST SWALLOW!? THINK OF THE CHILDREN?! Then I felt horridly guilty thinking that poor girl....

Happy Birthday, Gail!!! I hope you had a rockin birthday weekend! Enjoy your 24th year! Whether it's teaching English in Thailand, Salmon fishing in Alaska, or getting that dream job in marketing.... I know you will have GREAT FUN with any adventure!

You might not tell your dentist what to do, but daily I have patients tell me what to do. Most of the time, I listen and try to accommodate, but sometimes (like those that try to insist that they "need" another ultrasound) it gets frustrating for us too. You're in customer service. If you want to keep customers, you have to try to keep them happy

[Edit to add: why do you ask?] I was just thinking about terms like those and wondering. When I'm called a "geek," I occasionally point out that I have NEVER bit the head off a live chicken. Also... just wondering what the positive and negative attributes of each of them are. "Nerd" tends to have more of an "insult" quality to it. "Squint" seems to infer an air of superiority. "Geek" .... I dunno.

32.34714% - Total Geek BUT.... I am 67.65286 % NOT geek, right? (I wanna be Penny, not Leslie)

Just wondering. What is your definition of a geek. a nerd. a squint.

Are you looking just at the color with your perception or does the card actually say "red"? The marvel.com website that I linked specifically says brown with a white streak (but... the shades of auburn do change with who is doing the artwork) but.... ultimately.... it doesn't really matter. She hot whether brunette or redhead. (however, if I were to play for the other team, I would probably chose Belle or Vampirella)

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No.... Girl... I need to geekafy you. Rogue is typically a brunette with a white skunk stripe thing going on. Hun, that's red. And my trading cards say so too. Jeannie was a red head.... Rogue, I've always seen as brunette

No.... Girl... I need to geekafy you. Rogue is typically a brunette with a white skunk stripe thing going on.

Rogue is awesome, but isn't a full body condom required? I don't get it. She drains the; life, intelligence and super powers out of anyone she touches. She has no control over it and if done for a long enough time they just die. except .... she was married to Magneto in one of the realities. So you would either need to have that ability or just except the ultimate tease

Forge or Tony Starks or even Deadpool... but he has to keep the mask on.