GQ_jumper

It's not like all members of your active service military are committed to important tasks, is it? Quote Actually this has been going on for a while now, it was pre 9-11 when the military started giving all these jobs out to contractors. If you look back to WWII the military was basically completely maintined by the military, everything, personnel clerks to mechanics were all soldiers. In recent years teh military has been making an effort to keep all soldiers deployable. When you sign into a new post the majority of the people you deal with during the inprocessing are civilians. Shortly after 9-11 when all military posts were locked down soldiers were doing all the checkpoint security, contractors have since been brought in so the MP's wouldn't be kept from deploying because they were too busy checking ID's at the gate. In Iraq its the same, basically all the jobs that would be a waste of time for a soldier to have to do are covered by contractors. I have my gripes about some aspects of it but for the most part they are keeping us from doing the shit jobs. I don't think mobilizing a Guard unit to maintain port-a-shitters would be the best use of our military. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Watch that man's hand: Dark brown. That giant ring. All is wrong in this video. Don't know which party it created (don't want to know) - it's just needless like a hole in the head. Quote I noticed that too and was thinking the same thing, why would the bullets be sitting on an ACU boonie cap, kinda looks like it was staged to look like a soldier. And yeah we can wear civilian clothes over there in our off time but still whats the top he's got on, it's not a uniform, if I were to do something like this I would have a uniform on. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Why aren't they negotiating with the Iraqi government for the right to overfly Iraq? They have their sovereginty, don't they? Or is that a sham? Quote We still control the airspace in a military sense, Iraq doesn't really have it's Air force up and running at the moment so everything in the sky is American. I'm sure the Iraqi government is involved in these negotiations at some level but if you were going to fly over someone else's airspace who would you be more concerned with talking to, the person that can sit there and complain about it, or the person that can really ruin your day Hmm this reminds me of another Israeli mission to destroy a nuclear facility, I love the way the Israeli's take action

Love it. Removes the martyr motivation.Quote This is a double edged sword, on one hand it does remove that martyr motivation, but at the same time when we're having so much trouble convincing people that we respect their culture and aren't there to change them this isn't the best way to go about it. Can't argue that it's a great PSYOP tool though. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

On the one hand, you never want to hear about a large number of deaths. On the other hand, contractor is just a euphemism for mercenary. Mercs are generally paid much better than regular troops and generally understand the risk v. reward equation. They've consciously made a decision that their life is worth risking simply for the money. Nobody forced them to go. They where under no public service obligation to do so. It IS all about the moneyQuote the contractors over there now are doing jobs that the military doesn't have the manpower to cover down on itself without stretching our forces even thinner than they are now. for a while there were National Guard units getting mobilized for sometimes up to 18 month deployments and all they would do is stand at security checkpoints on bases. I even saw some guarding compounds inside bases, these positions are now being covered by contractors so we can send the NG troops home or use them for something more pertinent. The are running the chow halls, running laundry services, maintaining our living quarters, driving trucks between bases, protecting VIP's, and translating for us. Trying to have all these jobs filled by the military is impossible these contractors are necessary. None of these people are mercenaries. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

2. My response was to that post, not to your "correction" which came later. Actually there was no error, simply a misunderstanding by one particular individual because that interpretation fit that individuals viewpoint. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

The logical inference for the reader is that you were making a generic statement. And what would that stratagem be?? I was stating that you have not only completely avoided every question that has been asked of YOU, but have also argued a point which was misinterpreted by YOU in the first place. Every person in this thread with the exception of yourself has clearly stated that they understood the context of my original post. But sadly you hide behind sarcasm to avoid debating the topic at hand. Tell me, is it in any way, shape, or form possible to have a debate with you where you don't take things out of context, or manipulate peoples statements in an attempt to lead the debate so far off course that you can make yourself look like a victor without ever having discussed the pertinent issue? And while you're at it tell me this, will you even bother to answer a single question that is asked of you or will you use a bland sense of humor to mask your inability to argue the topic of the thread? History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

You keep confusing two different situations: 1. You hear strange noises and don't know who it is 2. You SEE a cop approaching your house. The scenario I'm discussing is this one originally brought up by GQ_jumper. So please try to stick to the point. Quote And as I have stated counteless times so far that original statement was geared towards this particular situation. I never meant to imply that everytime you see a cop you should throw your hands up in the air(nobody hear has said that). It's funny how you manipulate what people say when you can't win an argument professor, you have this unique way of twisting the context of people's argument's to further your argument and completely avoid the topic at hand. So by actively avoiding the topic and in no way responding to any of the posters questions or comment you are basically hopelessly clinging on to a moot point in an attempt to hide the fact that you have lost a debate. Simply put: You just lost a debate to a knuckle dragging Green Beret with violent tendencies(such as only interacting with people in an adverserial manner according to you) who doesn't even have a college education. It's been fun though, let's do it again sometime

That's awesome, props to thse that guy History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Because I don't pick up my date for another two hours, but I'm going out later History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Sori Aoi All about them asian girls History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I disagree with you agreeing to disagree, if there's one thing that needs to be argued, it's an argument about arguing like this History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

the whole thread has been hosed by an inane argument over the silly suggestion that you should act like you're being arrested whenever you encounter a cop. Quote Actually when the discussion began no one said this is the way to act around a cop. People did however begin to twist words to create an argument that didn't need to happen in the first place. Basically everyone in this discussion with the exception of about two people are all in agreement that in some way shape or form you should present yourself as a NON-THREAT, when approached by a cop. This doesn't meant being submissive, or throwing your hands up like your scared, it just means that you act in a manner which does not present you as someone the cop needs to be afraid of. A polite friendly tone, lack of sudeen movements, and ensuring your hands are exposed(which could simply mean pulling them out of your pockets and putting them down to your side) are all you need to do to ensure situations like this don't happen. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

When my company first got the camera and photoshop years ago, one of the guys took a pic of the boss and a pic of one of the babes, superimposed his head on her body and tacked up copies all over the plant....he was gone in 30 seconds. Quote My team is used to pranks like this one, you wouldn't believe some of the things that go on at work with us. It's awesome, I love my job History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I don't know about Randy tiring out, typically wrestlers are the best conditioned fighters out there. Nowadays I don't take age into account, remember the first time Randy fought Chuck, he proved age was not a factor. We typically see athletes successfully pushing it into their 40's nowadays. either way I know Randy is going to push the pace and keep this fight exciting, go to the website and look at the interviews, it's gonna be good. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Well lucky for me he's running in AL, and I won't be affected by him either way. He just displayed no traits whatsoever that would make me want to vote for him. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Just checked the UFC polls, theyre 70/30 in Randy's favor. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I'm sick of seeing Sylvia with that belt around his waist, you want to be a champion you better fuckin fight like you want it. That half assed I'm just trying to not get beat, that shit doesn't cut it, and if there's one man that knows how to be a champion its Randy. I'm thinking Sylvia's days are numbered Randy is a whole different class of athlete, a former world class wrestler, and we all know how my GQ loves the ground fighters History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Yeah jokes like this are pretty much a common thing with me! they go well with the rubber fist I keep in my locker to slap people around with History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

replacing the facial portion with your imageQuote Yeah but I'm always the first one to make fun of myself, so that joke wouldn't go very far History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

So I just sent the boss an email claiming I found one of his high school football pics that was taken before he got fat. so how is this one gonna go over?? Here's the email: I finally believe you when you say you weren't always, shall we say hefty, the bald part, well, this must have been one of your old football pics cause you're wearing a helmet. signed, Shady McFister PS. I was guessing the short one on the right was you!! The pic is the one that went with the email. He's either gonna laugh his ass off, or rip me a new one History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

I wouldn't consider a drunk fight a level playing fied no matter who it is though History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Barkley did. I think it was a Nike commercial. He also beat up Barney on SNL and threw a midget through a window at a strip club. That has got to be worth a couple votes right there. Quote That's too funny, I never caught those ones!! History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Is a good candidate somebody whose most popular commercial is him staring at the camera and saying "I am not a role model." Quote Who did that? History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower

Unlike the military, most of us are not trained to have adversarial relationships with the people we interact with on a daily basis, nor do we want such relationships.Quote And you just proved that you have absolutely no idea how I interact with people on a daily basis while I am deployed downrange. You claim you don't want an adverserial relationship with a cop but refuse to show a little respect for the kind of mentality they could possibly have which is caused by people trying to kill them. It's not making them an adversary, its showing them respect, they have to make an assesment of every single person they approach and small step to help them make that assesment is not making them the bad guy, it's showing them you're willing to help. Tell me, what do you do when you are pulled over. History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower