ChrisL

I'll send you a PM __ My mighty steed

I say hoax. No child in this country would understand or even know the term "new math" Some old loser made this crap up.

I decided over the weekend that I'm hanging up my rig

Didnt seem that way to me. It looked like ordinary line twists until they came apart and it was revealed as a more serious mal. From that point it was only about 5 seconds till he cut away. I say good reaction time and good decision. __ My mighty steed

Maybe she is a castrating, suffocating shrew. Maybe she has no problem finding them, but has trouble keeping them. __ My mighty steed

Its not.

Got no bedside drawer __ My mighty steed

How happy and relaxed I feel when I'm slipping off to sleep at night. I'm not rich, but I am sucessful. I know it because I'm still learning and growing as a person, my enjoyment of my life doesnt come at anyone elses expense, the work and responsibilities arent too unpleasant or overwhelming, and my family is happy and healthy. I sleep like a baby. __ My mighty steed

Gonna have to say that your assessment is right on. Not everyone feels the need to follow this absurd trend though.

I will definitely drug him with zinc Will also try the oyster thing. I also never discuss anything not perfect about our relationship (which is why the anonymous post). None of our friends know what is going on. Fortunately, we very rarely have any issues at all, so really nothing negative to tell anyway. Wow. Thread still goin into the next day :-) I dont want to argue anymore about whether people are obligated to provide sex with their SO, its moot and not even really what the thread was about in the first place. In the physical realm, you may find this to be of interest. On the subject of zinc, ZMA is a great suppliment. Its zinc and magnesium aspartate. Both together work far more effecively at increasing natural testosterone production. I take it religeously. Magnesium Aspartate 450 mg daily. Zinc Monomethionine Aspartate 30 mg daily. Be forewarned. Its not an aphrodesiac or magic potion. It takes regular use to effectively increase testosterone levels. Slipping someone a zinc mickey one time wont have any effect at all on sex drive. Most folks into heavy weight lifting use this because the regular intense exertion depletes these minerals and can negatively impact testosterone levels. There are several other OTC suppliments that work very well in conjunction with ZMA and did actually have a marked affect on my own sex drive, but they became too expensive for me to continue regular use. 6-OXO (androstenetrione) - This is an aromatase inhibitor. It binds and eliminates aromatase which is a hormone that converts testosterone into estrogen. It also causes the pituitary gland to release more leutinizing hormone which also causes the testes to increase testosterone production. Tribulus Terrestris- a natural plant extract that also causes the pituitary gland to release more leutinizing hormone with the same effect mentioned above. These 3 together are a very potent and effective "Stack" and provided some serious results. Frankly I was as horny as a 18 year old. Once again, maintaining this regimen was very expensive and I couldnt maintain it. It was costing me something like $120.00 per month. Some may find its worth the money. These are NOT steroid, nor are they considered "pro-hormone" suppliments by the FDA. They are not "andro" products either. All legal and safe products that increase natural testosterone production. __ My mighty steed

Oh. Well if its a law and its been around a while that makes it right I guess? What do you think about laws that dictate the circumstances under which a man can beat his wife? Those have been around for just as long and some are still on the books today in some states. Do you think they are right? They are laws after all... I thought we were having a serious discussion You cant honestly believe that the existance of an archaic law like that means that its our solemn duty to provide sex to our SO whenever they feel like it whether we feel like it or not. __ My mighty steed

Legally speaking, you're wrong. It's one of the duties set forth in the marriage contract, and sexual desertion is still grounds for divorce, even in some states that have no-fault. rl The expression "The law is an ass" comes to mind.

No offense, but I'm glad you are not my wife too. I love my own wife very much even if she wants sex more than I do. Contrary to what you say, I do not think sex is a chore. Thats because I have not allowed it to become one by letting myself be emotionally blackmailed into providing sex like a stud service whenever I'm called upon to perform. Sex is wonderful and it will always be so. I do agee that realtionships require compromise, however I do not agree that sex is one of the areas where people should compromise. __ My mighty steed

That may be OK for you, but that doesnt mean its OK for everyone, or even that it should be OK for everyone. Suffer? When I was 17 and as horny as they get and my girlfriend was making me wait for the "right time" and I had an epic case of blueballs after going 90% of the way there for 2 hours and then stopping,that was suffering. Even then I recognised her right to deny me and waited for that "right time" to arrive. I'm sure it was the best 12 seconds of her life I didnt relate her refusal to her love for me. __ My mighty steed

I bet we can agree on one thing! I bet we are bot hglad we arent married to each other. I dont think I could measure up to your needs. 3 times a week I can do. 3 times a day....well... I'm not as young as I used to be

Now dont go and try to make us all look like hypocrites

With all due respect, that was exactly my point.. OK, let me rephrase that. There was no "tone." I'm just participating in a discussion. If there is something specific I said that you feel was inappropriate, please feel free to comment on it. If you want to debate any of my points, debate away. Thats why we are here. You need to be more specific though or I cant address your concerns __ My mighty steed

I wish there was an easy answer to this her problem. If there is NO sex at all, ever, then maybe there is some thing more going on. Still, all long term relationships have cycles. Sometimes theres more, sometimes thes less, sometimes its non-existant for a while. Who is to say that this isnt just an exceptionally long off cycle? True. Still I just dont hold with the notion that sex should be bartered in a relationship. Its not a responsibility or a duty. Its something people should share when they are both in the mood for it. If there is a great disparity between one persons desire and the others, the the person that isnt getting what they need from the relationship should reevaluate why they are in it and maybe seek someone else more evenly matched as opposed to demanding that their partner step up to the plate and start giving them more orgasms

I'm not aware of any "tone". I'm expressing my opinion in a polite, respectful way. I havent insulted or belittled anyone, and I've evben interjected a couple humorous comments to lighten it up here and there. If you disagree with me thats certainly your right but this is a public forum where someone asked a question on a rather personal issue. I've answered that question and other comments with my own opinions on the subject, which were meant to convey the idea that what the person is dealing with may not be as big a problem as she fears. Other folks seem bent on convincing her that there is a big problem. Either way I dont see why this is a problem for you. I didnt get the sense that anyone was offended by my comments. __ My mighty steed

You misunderstood what I was saying. That comment was meant to put across the idea that sex should not become a chore and that I refuse to let it be such. I dont prefer to work out instead of have sex. In point of fact, I dont enjoy working out at all. Its a necessary evil to have the level of fitness I want. I do enjoy sex, but dont want it to become a chore by forcing myself to do it when I dont feel like it. I wouldnt expect my wife to "put out" for me if she didnt feel like it either and if she turned down (which has certainly happened on occasion) it doesnt hurt my feelings. Not even a little bit. __ My mighty steed

I may consider that if I were to lose all interest. That hasnt happened. Its just that there is a little imbalance which as far as I've seen is pretty normal. I'd prefer to leave my endocrine system alone unless something serious demanded it. Those suppliments can also be extremely expensive and only work as long as you keep pumping them into your body. I wont argue that point, although some workouts are better than others

Sex (or lack of) is what this thread is about. I'm not suggesting that people should not try to make their SO happy. I'm saying that sex should not be a requirement in that process. Maybe you should reread the thread from the beginning __ My mighty steed

Spoken like a true younger person with lots of testosterone

Hey thats no fair! Here I went and made that really clever comment about cleaning the toilet and having sex. Actually my wife and I are happy. There was some trouble for a while because of natures little joke. As age advances the female sex drive seems to increase while the males decreases. Haha, very funny. She was feeling unloved because I didnt want sex as much as she did. I have found that there are many ways to make someone feel loved. Sex is just one of them. By using a combination of sex and other ways we are able to keep us both happy. Why does this work? Because its not really about the sex at all which is my whole point. Its about feeling loved, and there are many ways to make someone feel loved. PS. For those of you that cant think of other ways to make their SO feel loved, oh man its gonna suck to be you someday __ My mighty steed

Working out is a chore. I force myself to do it for the benefit it gives me. Making love to my wife should not be a chore. I should do it when I feel the deisre for it. Forcing the issue when I dont feel like it makes it into a chore and will eventually make the problem even worse. I refuse to allow it to become a chore. Lets see, today I have to take out the trash, clean the toilet, and have sex with my wife, after that I can relax and enjoy myself. No thanks. There is a BIG difference between wanting to be with my lifes partner and wanting to have sex. As I stated many times already, they are unrelated. If your man doesnt feel like having sex and your reaction is to think "Why not? What's wrong with me?" then you are confusing issues. One is about love, the other is about your own low self esteem. Its arrogant to automatically assume that it has anything to do with you at all. Not everything is about you. (This is a rhetorical "you" by the way) I think I stated quite clearly that physical intimacy can enhance and stimulate emotional imtimacy, but they are not directly linked. One is a hormone driven physical compulsion, the other is an emotional state. No studies that I am aware of have ever shown otherwise. __ My mighty steed