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Senate Democrats block a vote on Obama's tax proposals
ChangoLanzao replied to rushmc's topic in Speakers Corner
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I totally agree.
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Yes. Faulty logic. Here you go. [URL "http://robertdfeinman.com/society/ayn_rand.html"]Ayn Rand's Social Policy[/URL] The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. James Madison, Federalist No. 45, January 26, 1788 Where'd that come from? It has nothing to do with this discussion. Here's something else that dead guy wrote more than two hundred years ago in paper #45: “The regulation of commerce, it is true, is a new power; but that seems to be an addition which few oppose, and from which no apprehensions are entertained.” Just like your quote, it too has nothing to do with this discussion.
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Yes. Faulty logic. Here you go. [URL "http://robertdfeinman.com/society/ayn_rand.html"]Ayn Rand's Social Policy[/URL] I stopped reading right here, "One of the most popular philosophers of the 20th Century was Ayn Rand." When the first sentence is full of bullshit, the rest isn't likely to improve. Ayn Rand's "philosophy" boils down to, only the self matters. Fuck everyone else. That's not really much of a philosophy though. It's just being selfish. you might want to read the whole thing.
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I never stated that massive numbers of people who didn't commit a crime have been put in jail because of their race.
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Yes. Faulty logic. Here you go. [URL "http://robertdfeinman.com/society/ayn_rand.html"]Ayn Rand's Social Policy[/URL]
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Exactly. All of that is still going on today. That's the problem.
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Bottom line - very few people are more influential than the system in which they live. The way they lived was part of the system of the times. Otherwise, all men should feel horrible for being men because it took so long for women to get the rights they have and for the rights they still don't have in most places; all white people should feel terrible because their ancestors kept black slaves; all people of western European descent should feel terrible because of the imperialistic colonizing habits of their ancestors (and the continued efforts to impose their will on the rest of the world), and so on and so forth. Whining, nothing but whining. You are the one whining because people keep reminding you that all of these injustices are still going on in present day America and you don't want to think about it. There are lunatics alive today in America who would bring back the past if they were given the chance.
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I've heard this argument before. It is thoroughly unconvincing, randian nonsense. The poor are in this situation because they are lazy and take advantage of handouts given them by the "enablers" . It still begs the question. You think blacks and latinos are innately lazy because of their culture. Otherwise, there would be just as many whites in the same situation. Why don't white people also take just as much advantage of the "enablers"? Is it because they are not innately lazy and stupid like the blacks and latinos? Is that what you think? Your premise is either racist or just simply wrong.
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OK. So you are basically saying that blacks and minorities in the U.S. commit most of the crimes and that is why they make up the majority of the prison population. It's a circular argument. The important question, that is not addressed is WHY? Don't you think that as patriotic Americans we should be alarmed? Do you believe that blacks and latinos in America are innately predisposed to criminal activity? (That article you quoted is long-winded way to beg the question )
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I don't think it's a grand conspiracy. It would be relatively easy to fix if that were the case. The problem is that we make too many laws that criminalize victimless activities. We give the police too much latitude in making arrests or detaining people. We allow racial profiling in too many situations. The list goes on. The net result is what we see in our prison population and in the huge number of American citizens who live in poverty with very little hope of getting out. The deck is stacked in favor of white, Christian, wealthy people in America. The evidence is all around us. I can't possibly explain it to you here, of course. It took Tim Wise a couple of hundred pages in his book Dear White America: Letter to a new minority.
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I'm willing to bet that an argument could be made that more and more laws are added to the books every year that turn more and more americans into criminals. Would also be willing to submit that there is selective enforcement of those laws. Exactly.
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Silly right-wing talking point. It's absolute nonsense. More unsubstantiated right wing nonsense. This just isn't true. No matter how much it's repeated. That's funny. Yeah ... we're better at arresting minorities and putting them away. We selectively arrest more people who don't look like us. We criminalized marijuana/hemp back in the bracero days in order to jail Mexicans and we came up with ridiculous sentences for crack cocaine users in order to jail black people. Currently we are dreaming up an "illegal immigration" problem in order to jail brown people and put them in concentration camps run by corporations who profit from detaining human beings in "tent camps". We use the "drug war" to selectively jail minorities.
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How much do you understand about statistics? Can't you just answer my question? Because your question is irrelevant.
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That's true. But the bigots here in the U.S. are constantly trying to rewrite history to make us forget that many of the wrongs have never been corrected. We've never had a reconciliation. They don't want one. On July Fourth, they patriotically worship the flag and watch fireworks and sing about freedom, then they become indignant when someone asks them, "if we're so free, then why is it that we have the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world?" Did you know that in 2008 approximately one in every 31 adults (7.3 million) in the United States was behind bars, or being monitored (probation and parole) and that 70% of them are non-whites? America does have many reasons to celebrate the Declaration of Independence, but it's also necessary to face the truth. Apparently many of us don't like to be reminded of the truth on July Fourth. That's what this is about.
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Yeah, one group wronged another, and while things are corrected decades ago, there's still a lot of hurt feelings etc. everywhere. It's a rather common phenomena. As far as what's left over here in the U.S., it's far more than just hurt feelings.
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It's very ignorant of you to assume that we as a people (and I as person for that matter) never ever had to get over any injustice done to us. But apparently we're better at it than you are. I made no such assumption about your people. I simply pointed out that you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to what's really happening here in the US.
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Well, it's easy for you, from the Netherlands, to tell us to "get over it" since you don't have to live here among people who not only haven't gotten over it, but still feel that the Civil Rights Act should be repealed.
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It can never be erased because it's part of our history, silly. I think that reading THIS BOOK might help you to better understand what the OP was trying to say.
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HERE'S some substance.
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This just shows your personal slant than bring anything of substance to the discussion. Is there a rule against expressing my personal slant?
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The legitimate reason is that we need to see what the facts in his tax returns have to say about all of this. True this isn't the best his opponents can come up with. THIS might be the best his opponents can come up with.
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ACA and the gutting of the Commerce Clause
ChangoLanzao replied to ChangoLanzao's topic in Speakers Corner
That's too bad. You might have learned something valuable from reading and thinking about the article. Oh well. -
Sarcasm? Anyway, the point is that we can never know the reason for the Swiss bank accounts unless we an see the tax returns. There seem to be only two reasons that justify a Swiss bank account: 1. Betting against the dollar, or 2. Avoiding paying your fair share of taxes. These might be "smart" things to do, but that's beside the point. A third possibility, is that he's hiding "dirty money". Even though that's doubtful, we can't know the truth without seeing the tax returns, can we?