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Trade off here... One leg offers less paracitic drag than 2, but may load the harness and require toggle/riser input to correct. Which one is the more "expensive" move, aerodynamically speaking, I have no idea. There are many, many sports that take redusing aerodynamic drag to extremes. I'm sure swooping will follow. t It's the year of the Pig.

6000ft - Get ready to get ready for break-off 5000ft - Get ready for break-off 4000ft - Break-off! 3000ft - Stop breaking off and pull! 2000ft - Really stop breaking off and really pull if you have not already done so. 1000ft - Get ready to land if you're still in freefall, or listen carefully to see if you can hear your cypress fire. Seriously... looking at some of the replies in this thread - some of you should put your toys away for a month and see what happens. I'm seeing WAY too much dependance here, dispite what some say... t It's the year of the Pig.

Yup. More than just French fries and garlic... t It's the year of the Pig.

Ahh. Doesn't that just make it someone elses problem though? Surely you should melt it, or pick it up and put it someplace? Blowing it from where it is to someplace else seems kinda.... pointless. Why not just wait for the wind to blow? t It's the year of the Pig.

What's a "snow blower?" t It's the year of the Pig.

Have you considered the ZP or ZP.exe from Parachute systems? I removed a lot of "You're a Pussy" type comments from this thread. If it looks like the thread has run it's course, I'll lock it. t It's the year of the Pig.

Yeah. African rush hour... t It's the year of the Pig.

Fucking gun nuts!... Kidding. Just kidding! t It's the year of the Pig.

Bummer. But car's are like freebags. If you live, and they get trashed - or lost - you still win. Chin up! t It's the year of the Pig.

Not directed at you - sight_burner.... I removed A LOT of junk from this thread. Topical forums get tedious when you have to wade through pages of one line gags to get a snippit of useful info. Post the Bullshit in Bonfire please people. t It's the year of the Pig.

No. t It's the year of the Pig.

When I pack for myself, I use tube stows. I've always had excellent results from them. Other packers replace with regular bungies, and about once a month I remove those and replace with tube stows. t It's the year of the Pig.

No... Quiet as the grave... t It's the year of the Pig.

I think you are correct... but why the past tense is so important eludes me! t It's the year of the Pig.

How many times do you think your hacky would survive being hit with a golf club? They're plenty sturdy for throwing into the air. t It's the year of the Pig.

I use PVC Pipe handles for wing suit dives, due to their low weight and the ease in finding them when everything around them is soft. Best thing I've seen is a practice golf ball for a handle. The one with all the holes in it? The writing has been on the wall for a long time. Hacky sac used to be "A game played with a ball that does not bounce by people who might" but these days the people using them are more than just fashion victims. And Monkey fists are even worse. t It's the year of the Pig.

I smashed my femur on jump number 140. Ego spike. t It's the year of the Pig.

When it comes to a PC in tow - there are no "usual reserve drills" Both cutting away and then firing the reserve, and simply firing the reserve have led to their own share of survival and tragedy in near equal proportions. Experienced skydivers tend to favour one or the other with some fervour. I think the same situation may require different responses depending on altitude, among other variables. A PC in tow at 600 ft, for example, requires an immediate attempt to deploy the reserve. Anything higher moves into the realm of opinion. As with almost everything - prevention is the preferable option. t It's the year of the Pig.

How about we count marshals.. t It's the year of the Pig.

We had an interesting incident at JSC yesterday. In an earlier thread, Robert Pecnic said with regard to BASE wingsuit.. "A hacky handle PC is not acceptable! PCs with the hacky are top heavy. After the pull the PC will always ''dance'' until it is fully inflated, this is caused by the handle travelling slower than the PC body in the air stream, "dancing" is the critical period, where the PC can hit the bridle and create a solid knot." After landing under his reserve, both the Wingsuit pilot involved and I got to see that solid knot. This is his description of the incident. He is an experienced skydiver with many camera jumps, but few wingsuit dives. I've elected to post here rather than Incidents or S & T as it's 100% about wingsuits. "Spending some time pondering about the "sports" yesterday I've made a list of some things that came to mind.... 1. Did check my gear before I went up. PC was definitely cocked! 2. Have not Birdman since before nationals last year, and wanted to get current again. 3. Because of point 2, I decided to pull no lower than 4k and not to do any flocking dives. 4. Made sure that I did no lazy pulls. 5. After I pulled, and nothing happened, I thought the PC jumped into my burble. Dipped a bit to try and flush it off. (Camera experience) 6. When still nothing was happening I turned and looked, it took me a split second to realise the PC is useless. (Inspection on the ground proved it) 7. What I had to do next was obvious, the only question (even now) was "To first chop or not to chop?". 8. Made sure I was stable and fired reserve. Had a shit load of line twists, but canopy spined itself out. 9. Pulled main D-bag in and as I got it to me the last bungy gave and I grabbed the material and hugged it so that the main would not inflate. 10. Here's the clincher... Even if I chopped, I was so wrapped up in main lines, because of the line twists that I doubt it that the main would have cleared and there was no tension on the main risers. 11. While holding the main, I chopped one wing at a time. 12. When my arms were freed I steered towards the club using the rear risers. 13. Tried to secure the main buy shoving as much of it in to my J-suit. 14. Chopped and freed my leg. Shoved all handles into j-suit. 15. Released toggles and landed. For teaching newbies, I would like to share with you and Taya the following... (I have not sat in one of your courses, so I might be wasting your time, but...) This was not one of your garden variety mals. I was very busy up there! The wings (and the keeping the main under control) compound the issues of a mal. Pulling higher and my camera experience defiantly saved my ass. What I did do well, was to think before I took action and I only did one thing at a time. I was wondering, how a 500 jumps person that's never flown camera wings would have handled this situation. What also pee-ed me off was that it was such a COOL dive and the tips Taya gave me, worked like a charm!!! Anyway, I'll be back on the horse in 2 weeks time!" Feel free to discuss! Long flights, t It's the year of the Pig.

Speaking of the Brits, amazing how no one ever asks for the recipe for "Spotty Dick." t It's the year of the Pig.

Bored? Thanks for the dive Saturday! t It's the year of the Pig.

HH Says "Please take politics, guns and religion to the Speakers Corner." Any reason you decided to post a gun thread in Bonfire? t It's the year of the Pig.

With you 100%. Seeing people do things for what they may forget just seems terrifying. Don't forget that stuff is a wiser option. t It's the year of the Pig.

Ditto. I think you're not finishing the flare. When I'm bored and watching landings - I'm amazed at how many people do the "thunder run" when there's yonks of lift left in the rag. t It's the year of the Pig.