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When did you do that? You have in fact refused to retract everything from your OP, leaving it unclear what you have or haven't retracted. But no-one here has pretended it is just the right. Again, you are the only person in this thread who has pretended it's all from one side, when you started this thread specifically in order to pretend it's all from the left. So why did you want to excuse the right's wrongdoing when you started this thread? And what were you afraid to say about George Floyd?

My post was very simple - I don’t get how you’ve failed to read it properly. The report said no one set of beliefs dominates extremist killings. You are the only person in this thread who has argued that one set of beliefs does dominate extremist killings. So again, just to be absolutely sure, you do retract the entire premise of your OP, which was that the left are ‘the ones’ responsible for political violence?

The report said it wasn’t the case. You are the only person in this thread who said it was the case. You started this thread specifically to say it was the case. Despite much prompting you have not yet retracted those claims.

What were you afraid to say?

But aren’t you the only person in this thread who has claimed that was the case? Wasn't it the entire reason you started this thread?

George Floyd was killed by the government, and the people used the power they had to send a message back to those they felt enabled and supported the killer. Charlie Kirk was killed by a citizen, and the government is planning to use the power it has to send a message back to those they feel enabled and supported the killer. It is odd that you think the former is more serious than the latter.

You understand how stupid and racist it is to think that though, right? And here’s the thing - no one ever worried about all the white men in those roles when only white men were being hired, did they? Like - the first black woman to be a USAF pilot retired from the airlines last year. So we’re not just talking about airline hiring in the ‘50s and ‘60s. In the ‘70s, ‘80s, ‘90s and even somewhat in the ‘00s it will have been the default to hire white men. Does anyone ever look at a late middle age captain getting on a plane and think well damn I sure hope that guy’s qualified, he might just have the job because he’s a white man!’?

Sure - but that’s definitely not what you started this thread to say. So to be clear - you retract the title of this thread that says it’s a left wing problem? You retract the entire premise of your OP that specifically the left ‘are the ones doing it’? You accept that you started this thread to present incorrect conclusions you had made from a position of ignorance? That is the case, yes?

Trump has just announced he's suing the New York Times for fifteen BILLION dollars because they endorsed Kamala. Is that a better way to squash the western principle of free speech?

You wanna try that one again? When has that been?

Ok, so the solution is to never hire a pilot for a flying job who hasn't already had a demanding flying job. Cool cool. You uh, haven't really thought this through, have you? Again - how do you figure the senior engineer got to be a senior engineer without working as a junior engineer first?

And where do you get that assurance? Training, not recruiting. Is it logged anywhere how well you did on your multi engine instrument checkride? It is not, just whether you passed. Is it logged anywhere how well you did on your commercial check ride? It is not, just whether you passed. Were you the best student the examiner ever saw or did you just scrape through because they had somewhere else to be and didn't want to spend the extra time explaining exactly why you failed? No one knows but them and the wallpaper. So they'll probably beast you on that during the assessment process, right? Errrr, no. In the sim you'll quite possibly just hand fly a takeoff and hold an altitude and heading, maybe track to a VOR and then hand fly a raw data ILS. That's literally all they'll see of you in the cockpit. They might well still hire you if you fuck up the ILS towards the end as long as you make a good go-around decision. But they'll sure as hell spend way more time talking to you in the interviews than they will finding out how well you can fly and if you think that process is guaranteed free of personal bias and always finding the most capable man for the job then I've got a bridge to sell you. What they will get is one of many applicants whose qualifications and personal presentation is good enough and their internal training and standards department will take care of the rest by the time the new hire is unsupervised out on the line. That's how the real world works, not this insane fantasy that recruitment is such an exact science that only the best will ever make it as long as that evil DEI doesn't get in the way.

See this is where the obvious bullshit lies. If you only hire the candidates who are objectively the best qualified and most capable, why the fuck do you need to carry out an interview? Anyone who has ever been involved in recruiting or being recruited knows that a competitive hiring process is filled with subjective judgements of a candidate's character and personality and that those things have a huge influence on the result. Anyone claiming otherwise is living in cloud-cuckoo land.

Which just goes to prove how racist they are.

I don’t really understand why you feel you have to point out that you don’t think the motive of a murderer was actually a justification for murder. Do you often find yourself agreeing with criminal murderers that their victims needed killing?

Also because it downplays the pervasive influence of the anti-abortion / anti-contraception movement throughout American politics. Although lying and pretending that it's all to do with abortion is perhaps uniquely Trumpian, once they've taken that position then destroying the aid rather than cooperate with international humanitarian organisations is simply the continuation of decades of Republican policy. A U.S. policy called the "Mexico City Policy," instituted by President Ronald Reagan during a 1984 conference in that city, restricts foreign nongovernmental organizations from using U.S. federal funds to provide abortion services or related information. Presidents have alternately rescinded and reinstated the policy since its creation; most recently, President Trump brought it back at the start of his second term.

You'll be very disappointed if you think Winsor will see any of those quotes as being problematic. He's actually parroted many of them. Kirk falsely claimed he knew he'd lost a West Point slot to an inferior DEI candidate. Winsor falsely claimed he knew he'd lost a job opportunity to an inferior DEI candidate. Kirk said he didn't trust any black pilot. Winsor has said on multiple occasions there are cohorts of unqualified DEI pilots out there. Heck - given this quote from Winsor I don't think Kirk ever said (in public at least) anything as expicitly racist as him. "Any dog or horse breeder can expound at length on the merits and deficiencies of one breed or sex for a particular role, and if you dispute that I ask who you favor in a race between a trained Thoroughbred and a Clydesdale. The differences between peoples are every bit as great as those between variants of other species." That is hilarious given the gaping silence that follows every single time someone asks why you keep claiming that Kamala Harris or Hilary Clinton are unqualified evil bitches.

Problem is if you agree on that you definitely disagree with shithead Charlie.

Isn’t the white fragility theory that white people often react angrily to the idea that society benefits them because they think it means they personally are accused of being horrible racists? I’d be curious to know how you think you are not providing strong support for that theory…

If ‘to establish justice’ does not mean the US was founded with the goal of equality for women it also does not mean it was founded with the goal of abolishing slavery.

Who tried to tear up the constitution and overthrow the government and who was so racist he thought any black person in any job had stolen a white person's slot. Yes, we agree!

Trump: News outlets giving you their opinion cannot be legal!

Yes, and when shithead read that part he evidently thought the guy doing the torture and execution was the protagonist. Imagine the courage of all the liberal students debating him, armed only with a weapon of words, daring to face down a multi-million dollar media empire dedicated to pushing right wing ideology.

So was it also founded with the goal of equality for women? In hindsight, as a modern person, you would think that justice includes equal rights for women, wouldn’t you?

Remember that shithead thought kids should be forced to watch public executions. I mean come on man, spreading god’s merciful love? This is a supposedly devout Christian who read the bible and ended up rooting for the Romans. Ironic, given that shithead was a traitor who helped organise a literal attack on the nation on Jan 6.