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Trumpettes Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I thought the right wing wet dream was a paralysed government that doesn't do anything. Small government, less regulation, no more ruling via executive order like Obama did... Did I just imagine all that or what? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Well no shit. If they've never voted why would pollsters pay any attention to them? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

What did Wendy say which gives you the slightest incling that she thinks otherwise? But you have the right to reply, and even to reply in an offensive manner. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Oft ignored? Assuming rural means red, they've had two of the last four Presidents (four of the last six)and swung two of the last six elections against the popular vote. How greedy are they? No I mean folks who had never voted or had checked out of the political process. When it took me five minutes to vote in (blue) Center County and there reports of two hour lines in rural Perry County, I called my brother in Florida and told him Trump was going to take PA, he laughed at me. BTW I had to wait in line for nearly an hour for Obama's elections Strange choice of words then! Voting is how you make your political voice heard. Not voting means there was nothing to ignore. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Oft ignored? Assuming rural means red, they've had two of the last four Presidents (four of the last six)and swung two of the last six elections against the popular vote. How greedy are they? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Oh good lord, you've got to be fucking kidding me. How cynical is Trump to do something like this when we know that he personally isn't the slightest bit religious? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Speaking of losing it, are you ever going to answer any questions about the CNN crowd picture you posted? Do you think it shows as many or more people at the Trump Inauguration as at Obama's? Do you think it shows no big empty spaces on the Mall? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

So why is Trump abandoning his campaign promises? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

That was killing me. I even looked it up and thought, "Still doesn't look right but fuck it." To be fair, since Tapper is part of a looooong line of people waiting to tear Spicer/Trump a new one over this, you could make an argument for queue being correct! Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

And how is the new order going to affect that? The companies that have the best lobbyists right now are just going to get a 2 for 1 deal aren't they? Push through a regulation that hinders their competition, and get rid of two regulations which hinder them (which presumably their competition brought down on them back when they had the best lobbyists). Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I guess I was just overcome by a wave of uncharacteristic optimism. Doubt it'll happen again anytime soon. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

You said it was a counter to your points. It was not a counter to your points, unless you want to own Airdvr's statements. You can't have it both ways. Look, I tried to help you. You wanna keep playing in the mud, keep playing in the mud. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Umm, no it wasn't. As was just pointed out that counter was made to Airdvr, not you. And since, as you just pointed out you should not be held accountable for what Airdvr said, you should equally not treat replies to Airdvr's posts as replies to your posts. Once again, that's the kind of contortion that detracts from your own argument. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Saying 'but the people want it' is no excuse for bad governance. Especially when the thing the people want is protection from a fear you have, yourself, spent years whipping up. In fact, that's one of the core elements of demagogery. It's worked for the right, hasn't it? The right have made an art form of anger and outrage over anything that doesn't go their way. Heck, have you ever seen a liberal personality move themselves to tears on stage a la Tea Party darling Glenn Beck? That is wild emotion. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Because you made it. I did not hold you to account for someone else's words they were your words. "guys with small penises - and low IQ's - can buy big trucks!" BillV You do realise how petty you're making yourself look here, don't you? Trying to play this stupid point-scoring game (and having to make such obvious contortions and intentional misunderstandings to do so) not only distracts from your main points which actually do have some merit, they destroy your overall credibility as a person worth continuing a conversation with. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Apparently you aren't a rocket scientist. And yet, another Kallend "Ad hominem" response. Well, are you? Otherwise you believe my accurate statement to be a PA of some kind. Go figure. Ad hominem does not necessarily mean a PA. By asking if I'm a rocket scientist (which you know I'm not)... you attempt to discredit what I said for not being one. You didn't address what was said as being wrong. In fact, you didn't address it at all. Just chalkin it up to another Kallend one-liner dodge & weave. It's called an analogy. And quite a good one. If you believe that this EO has nothing to do with Muslims because it doesn't specifically mention Muslims within its text (conveniently ignoring everything else that Trump has ever said regarding immigration during his entire political career) then you surely cannot believe Kallend was calling you stupid because there is nothing in his text that specifically says so. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Watching the "lets get lead by our nose rings" left wing loonies is fun to watch Talking of being lead by nose rings, have you had a chance to look at that CNN picture you posted yet? Can you clarify that you really do think it shows the Mall to be as full as Obama's inauguration? Can you clarify that you, personally, can't see any massive empty spaces in it? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Now you're saying Extreme Vetting means just not letting anyone in? How does that tally with the definitions you posted earlier? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

I didn't ask what the words meant, I asked what does "extreme vetting" entail. Do you need the dictionary definition of "entail"? Try again. OK...OK, let me ponder this for a moment I think the Executive Order itself explains all we need to know. Really? Does it? Ok, here is the relevant part of the EO: Sec. 4. Implementing Uniform Screening Standards for All Immigration Programs. (a) The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation shall implement a program, as part of the adjudication process for immigration benefits, to identify individuals seeking to enter the United States on a fraudulent basis with the intent to cause harm, or who are at risk of causing harm subsequent to their admission. This program will include... a mechanism to assess whether or not the applicant has the intent to commit criminal or terrorist acts after entering the United States. (b) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in conjunction with the Secretary of State, the Director of National Intelligence, and the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, shall submit to the President an initial report on the progress of this directive within 60 days of the date of this order, a second report within 100 days of the date of this order, and a third report within 200 days of the date of this order. According to the EO Extreme Vetting means finding out if they are who they say they are and if they want to blow anything up while in the US. And according to the EO they don't know how to do that yet, and they're budgeting at least six and a half months for figuring out how to do it. So are you still claiming that you know what Extreme Vetting will entail, when the EO makes perfectly clear that the Trump administration itself does not yet have any idea what Extreme Vetting might entail? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Since you can read, you know that it is impossible to honestly interpret what he said in that fashion. So why do it? Do you want to have an ideagasm?

Exactly. And when other people saw you write that, it is what they repsonded to. Not that it matters at all, because the observations about car road damage levels vs commercial haulage damage levels still hold true. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

A) You said big truck. If you didn't want anyone to thin you meant BIG trucks then maybe you shoulda been more specific. B) The assertion that Model Ss don't cause measurably more damage to the roads than F150s, and the assertion that the majority of road damage is done by commercial haulage are not distractions or red herrings, they are directly relevant to your 'facts'. Do you want to have an ideagasm?

America's favourite truck weighs less or more than a Model S, because there are loads of versions of the Model S. And, as you know, Kallend's point is that the difference in road damage between 4500lb vehicle and a 4600lb vehicle is less than neglible, since the road damage that either of them causes is neglible compared to heavy commercial haulage. But hey, if you have nothing better to do feel free to continue wasting your time splitting hairs Do you want to have an ideagasm?