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Papadopoulos is a Democrat shill! Believe me... Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Christ, the Democrats annoy me. - State of the Union
jakee replied to yoink's topic in Speakers Corner
The double standard is jarring though isn't it? Have you ever listened to rght wing talk radio or watched any Fox news opinion show? They are basically outrage factories. Every single day they need something to be scared of or mad at. Were you even awake during the Trump campaign? Foreign Communist Obama, Lyin' Ted Cruz, Crooked Hillary, lock her up! Hate these people, don't they make you crazy how horrible they are, don't you just hate them yet? Do you want to have an ideagasm? -
Even though he is a lifelong Republican, and he was appointed by Trump,* that's not enough to prove that he isn't part of the evil democrat conspiracy? So in your mind, Rush, only Devin Nunes who fundraised for Trump's campaign, served on his transition team and is one of his most loyal defenders, only Nunes is unbiased enough to carry out a fair and balanced investigation of matters surrounding the Trump campaign? Do you know how crazy you're being right now? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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All backed up by docs and interviews. Docs that you haven't seen and interviews that you haven't heard. The providers of the documents and the interviewees also contend that the conclusions of the memo are biased and unjustified. So why do you 100% believe that the conclusion of a member of Trump's transition team are entirely accurate and unnaffected by partisan support? Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure that Mr Mueller has both read some documents and interviewed some people in the course of his investigation. Probably a fair few more documents and more people than Nunes did. So why are you 100% sure that investigation conducted by a Republican, non-elected official, is being conducted entirely as a result of Democrat partisan bias? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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By who? What report? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Why do you need to wait and see what happens? Surely you only investigate when you already know what happened? Someone told me that just yesterday. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Just stop and think to yourself for a moment how ridiculously stupid that statement is. You can only investigate something you already know has happened... It's not so hard, Rush, just pick one. Pick one specific law that has definitely been broken... What was Flynn trying to keep hidden that he had been caught doing with the Russian ambassador? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Sure. And the thing is, even if Nunes' memo is entirely correct and the FBI did abuse the law and mislead the court in gaining the warrants, is there any evidence that it was politically biased, or just something that regularly happens? Did they go in with a significantly lower standard of evidence than usual? Nobody knows, it's a secret court. Have they justified other warrant requests with similar third party dossiers? Nobody knows, it's a secret court. Have they received warrants to spy on Democrats using intelligence supplied by Republican affiliated or funded organisations? Nobody knows, it's a secret court. The fact that (if there was something wrong with the warrant request) it is being treated as a partisan problem is mind boggling. It's just a natural consequence of secret legal systems with secret oversight inevitably creating a broken system. Have none of these people read Kafka? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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What I don’t understand about the whole thing is that the FISA court is quite literally a rubber stamp institution. The NSA doesn’t need to tell the Judge who they want to listen to, let alone why. For the FBI it may be different but still, since 1978 and 34,000 warrants later only 12 have ever been denied, and most of those subsequently approved in revised form. It makes the proverbial prosecutor/grand jury/ ham sandwich anecdote look like a titanic struggle in comparison. So why on earth would the FBI need to lie to a judge and abuse the system to get the surveillance up? They’ll give the go ahead for whatever the hell you ask for anyway! Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Even Donald Trump himself got suckered into the vast left wing conspiracy when he said that Flynn had lied to the FBI. Not Rush though, he's too smart to get fooled by that liberal make believe. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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I'm sorry what? I'm sorry what? It's funny that you accused Bill of trying to be a mind reader when half the time being a mind reader would be the only possible way of knowing what the hell you are trying to say. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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And I thank you for it. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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I remarked about the intent of your message, and you ignored it. You should wonder about your own motivations... Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Why are you saing "appointments" plural? For the first 5 years of his presidency Obama appointed ZERO people to position in the FBI. The office of Director was held by a Republican who was appointed by George Bush. For the last three years he made one - James Comey. James Comey the Republican, who delivered an anti-Clinton bombshell during the election cycle. Why do you think either of those people would be motivated to fill the upper levels of the FBI with Pro-Obama, anti-Republican agents? Frankly this need to be a victim that you have, which generates a paranoia that anyone not directly appointed by Trump must be politically corrupt and part of an anti-Trump conspiracy is really fucking disturbing. The idea that Trump will be vulnerable to scheming, Obama supporting saboteurs until he has filled every level and agency of government with his own apparatchiks and yes-men is incredibly dangerous. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Ron, being put on alert by dodgy looking white people doesn't mean it's not racist if you're put on alert by normal looking black people. If that's the case, and I'm pretty sure I remember you saying that it is. Anyway, did you want to try again with your definition of 'racist' ? Because you definitely got the last one wrong... Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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But you think that there is a difference between the Democrats and the Republicans. You keep telling us we have to pick a side between them. Why are you letting the devil fool you when you know that he's doing it? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Umm surely that's a description of a race, not a racist? Care to try again? Correct me if I'm wrong but you've said multiple times that it's sensible and logical to racially profile the people around you, and adjust your behaviour accordingly. You go on alert when surrounded by black people, is that correct? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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That's not what happened to Flynn though, is it Rush? Flynn wasn't charged because he said one thing today and another thing tomorrow - he was charged because he said something that was materially and provably different to what he had actually done. You do understand the difference, right? You don't need to have a fucking good memory to remember having asked the Russian ambassador to alter his country's policies only 3 weeks prior to being interviewed about it. You just need to be not senile. You do recall that even Trump has publically admitted the fact the Flynn lied, right? Not forgot, not mispoke, wasn't entrapped, but flat out lied. Even Trump. But not you. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Rush, being questioned by the FBI is not a trap. It's what they have to do when there is reasonable suspicion that crimes may have been committed.The FBI didn't make him lie, he decided to lie to them - knowing full well it was illegal. Why do you hate law enforcement? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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An actual report, or the memo Nunes wrote on his own? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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You led by example during the Obama administration, right? Wendy P. I don't think I have or had the power to lead anyone. Did you have the power to follow your own recommendation? Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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There's plenty of evidence that they really, really wanted to collude with Russia, evidence that they lied again and again and again about their attempts to collude with Russia, and their own claims that they were really disappointed when one meeting in which they had hoped to collude with Russia didn't turn out that way. You sure are a dreamer. Every time somebody is asked have they seen any evidence they all say no. Everyone's seen the evidence of what I just said. You've seen it. We all have. None of those committees are 'doing' the Mueller investigation. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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There's plenty of evidence that they really, really wanted to collude with Russia, evidence that they lied again and again and again about their attempts to collude with Russia, and their own claims that they were really disappointed when one meeting in which they had hoped to collude with Russia didn't turn out that way. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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The way you waited to evaluate Obama until 2012 and 2016. Oh yes, I remember well the restraint you showed in making no comment on him whatsover in those 3 year stretches between election cycles. Truly, you are an example to us all. Do you want to have an ideagasm?
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Yes, FBI action clearly helped Trump win the election. You're right, it should be cleaned up. Do you want to have an ideagasm?