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Your soul is worth £10320. For your peace of mind, 77% of people have a purer soul than you. Where do I sign up to sell it? "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

My kids are mostly adults now, one on her own, one in college, one in high school. I have a big pile of life insurance if the worst happens. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Very ironic that Fox presented this. Also interesting that the reporters exagerations where "lies" but apparently the Bush administration exagerations are just bad inteligence. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

The letter is written far better than your post. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Awhile back there was a thread about testing aircraft canopies. I finally found one fo the bird strike pictures I have. I don't remember the details but the aircraft is a USAF RF4-C that flew out of RAF Alconbury, UK. The incident is probably 1980. I still can't find the picture of the pilots helmet but imagine a lot of feathers. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Well it is 7:30 so I hope things are going well! "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Boston to Milwaukee straight through by my self Omaha to Bozeman MT and back with my wife - both directions non-stop and hit a snowstorm in Wyoming on the way up. We spent a day in Bozeman. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Wife and oldest son have both done a tandem and he is saving for AFF now. She wasn't impressed. Daughter would like to do a tandem but she is pregnant right now. Youngest son says no way! Mom liked the video but still thinks it's nuts. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

This weekend was the first time I had to think about this. Winds were runing 15-18MPH but gusting 20-25. Tandems were coming straight down. Then it would settle out for awhile then go back up. Fortunately by the time my load came around the gusts had been gone for a good half our and the winds were down to 10 - 15 at the surface. Winds higher up were still a trip and presented some opportunities to learn about using front riser to get penetration. Got to start working out "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Seems pretty damned difficult to hi-jack your own thread, afterall you are driving. Why the hell do you want to talk to the GF?

Just another example of why we can't wait for "proof" that global warming is real. By the time we have the proof it will be to late. And even if we are wrong about human contribution to global warming cleaning up the environment is still good for us. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

So you cut the budget by eliminating waste. Not conscripted but certainly low wage. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Unless you are en employer you have not personally paid anything in to unemployment. And the employer pays an insurance premium that goes up if they fire to many people. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Storm and Erica, hope you never need any help. If you loose your jobs I assume you will never file for unemployment. Are the systems abused, yes, are they needed, yes. I am all for fighting welfare fraud. Almost certainly an agressive check up policy would pay for itself. That is why insurance companies have fraud investigation departments. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

No, I have been one of those underpaid people. I am suggesting that like every other federal spending program there is a hell of a lot of waste. We have closed bases all over the world in order to cut costs yet spending continues to climb. No amount of technology is ever going to do away with ground combat. Wars are won and lost on the backs of the fighting soldier, not by the Air Force, not by the Navy, but by the folks who go get in front of the bullets. The technology helps and we shouldn't be without it but I am far more worried about dirty bombs that I am missles so I don't think we should be spending on the latest version of star wars. If the pentagon doesn't want a weapon (Osprey) they should not be forced to buy it. Additionally do you have any idea how far a Chinese soldiers pay goes in their economy? I don't so I don't know if they suffer or are living well. Comparing salaries is just dumb. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

So then we agree that the US spends something like 20 times what the seven baddies you have listed here spend. If you throw in a major trading partner then it drops to five times. Still a hell of a lot more than all our "enemies" combined. And apples to apples we should add up all our allies and include them in our figure. I think our sources pretty much agree. Our self appointed accountabilities would be more like it. No I am not an isolationist but I don't think we should be the world's policeman either. Especailly when we only police those that are strategically important. I agree with you on the first two points and don't have a problem with a strong military. I was a member of that group for over 10 years and around it for another five. I also know what happens at the end of the fiscal year when the unit hasn't used up its budget. New hats for everyone, lets have a barbecue, spend that money so we don't loose it in next years budget. Or what about projects the military doesn't want like the Osprey. Oh wait a congressman needs it for his/her district. Pentagon be damned build it anyway. Not sure exactly but I think the number was $85B for last year for the war. So what is wrong with social programs. We are supposed to be a society. Kinder, gentler, compassionate and all of that rhetoric. The one main thing I don't agree with is trying to feed the world. We need to teach the world to feed itself. Part of the problem in third world countries is that well intentioned programs are reducing the mortality rate and so already overburdened systems are being hit harder by larger populations. Before you dis the link why not check out truemajority.org. Simply an organization that is trying to get the government to listen to the people and not the special interests and big money. I don't agree with all their positions but the ones I do believe in I take action on as requested. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Why not try getting beyond the medium and look at the message. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

But... but... someone sent it to me in my email!!!!!!!!! Come on! It was on the innernet! Hate to disappoint you but I've been playing in this sandbox since before it was cool. I don't trust just any old thing sent to me. I do happen to trust Ben Cohen (Ben & Jerry's fame) and TrueMajority.org. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

No kidding, it is a gross simplification but what is so hard to understand about taking 11% of the defense budget and spending it where it might do some good. Hell get real generous with the tax breaks and just give it back. Or pay down the debt we didn't have three years ago. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

These numbers are from 2001, prior to our increases. http://www.nyu.edu/globalbeat/usdefense/Hellman031501.html The U.S. military budget is more than twenty-two times as large as the combined spending of the seven countries traditionally identified by the Pentagon as our most likely adversaries ­- Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria ­- which together spend just over $14 billion annually. The United States and its close allies ­- the NATO nations, South Korea, and Japan -­ spend more than the rest of the world combined. Together they spend thirty-seven times more than the seven rogue states. The seven rogue nations, along with Russia and China, together spend $116 billion, less than one-half the U.S. military budget. The United States alone spends more than the combined spending of next twelve nations. Also an interesting Department of State report here And from DoD themselves. here So it is only $380 billion this year and not an even $400 billion. What other figures are "wrong." "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

As I am sure you understood the point is that reallocating a small chunk of the existing budget could make a huge difference in the country and world without really sacrificing our defense. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

http://action.truemajority.org/ctt.asp?u=6074&l=275 Edited to make it clicky. "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

Awww you're takin' all the fun out of it "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes

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