JoeWeber

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  1. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Which is why telling others to write letters if they care is silly. The Right Wing will not let and tiny bit of erosion to the Second, period.
  2. JoeWeber

    Trump

    No, nor did I make the claim. My point, and good luck dissuading me, is that "your team" would never allow meaningful gun control laws.
  3. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Your Gun Responsibility law relies on intelligence, flexibility, and a hard willingness to do what is right even if it costs you. Given that those traits are demonstrably antithetical to most Republican politicians I'd say you have some brass to point out the lefts failings.
  4. JoeWeber

    Trump

    I cannot fathom how this is not obvious to all.
  5. JoeWeber

    Trump

    That's a good point I was intending to make when you came back with just this, so thank you. Their oath: “I (state your full name), Do solemnly swear, (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of ______ Against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of _____ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God” So yes the Ohio Governor called them in, and no order to fire was ever given according to the investigation. The point you miss is none of that matters as it won't the next time a scared kid in a military uniform fires on citizens, even those armed with Subway Sandwiches, because he was sent there by someone to control the voters who, in your example, where protesting a Federal action to wit Nixon invading Cambodia. And they were there following orders, not visiting admissions. How is my thinking it different? Well, I think it's because my position is honest and not criminally self serving, but thanks for the comparison. In quick explanation, I think the originalist position is as fucking stupid as it is dishonestly applied. I think our Constitution should be seen as a living document that needs thoughtful amendments and measured changes to reflect the times not a silly inconvenience designed to get us to the prayed for to come soon end times. I didn't know that. What I do know is that it'll be cops and soldiers assaulting innocent citizens, our freedoms, and the basic tenants of American democracy, not the girls from Hooters, and they'll be there following someones orders, wearing American Military uniforms and gear, and that a solid percentage of them will not give a shit about the business card they tossed or the lecture they heard because they will be happy to do it.
  6. That is hilarious.
  7. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Well, if I saw it I might do something even if that something was wrong. And that is why we shouldn't be sending our military out to see things they have no business seeing.
  8. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Yes, by that interpretation. That said your typical citizen can't assemble a bike on Christmas Eve so I'd bet they'd take any chance to hide out and play it safe while others saved the world.
  9. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Our Second Amendment is a misinterpreted joke that any 3rd grader without a dog in the fight would likely read more correctly. No sane person has ever explained to me why, in this case of Constitutional originalism ONLY, tossing out the first two parts and keeping the second two parts was obviously what the framers intended. So to satisfy your curiosity, I take exception to certain interpretations. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"
  10. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Fine. Then why did you give this glib answer: "I was regular Army, not National Guard. My job was outside the US borders". So all of that explanation aside, tell us: did the marines deployed to Los Angeles follow lawful orders? Yes, because it was under a defensible, but patently false, pretext? Yes, even if you knew it was to police not protect and you knew that many of your fellows might well go way beyond that if ordered and that any right or wrong would be decided well after the fact in, if there ever was one, a court of law? Thanks for the homework and I'm happy you stood up but it is a lot more complicated than the deep details of an oath that most cannot recall or think matters when orders are given. My position stands: the police and the military will be the instruments of the undoing of our democracy, if it happens, and nothing in your explanation would prevent that truth.
  11. JoeWeber

    Trump

    I wasn’t being cute and I’d enjoy, given your reluctance, reading anyone’s defense of your refusal to admit the truth: you would obey the orders because your training and oath demands it. If the oath was limited to “foreign” your first reply might have been defensible.
  12. JoeWeber

    Trump

    To do so would be to expose the fallacy. The phrase is "enemies, foreign and domestic". He knows full well that he would have, or had, no role in deciding who is whom and would have followed the orders he was sworn to follow. The sad reality is that our police and our military will be the tools used to destroy our democracy and the confused patriots in their ranks will be, as ever, just following orders.
  13. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Regular Marines were sent to LA. I ask again, would you refuse or salute and go?
  14. Which were then met with jackboots, beatings, and arrests of the few participants. As ever, the many who stayed at home or were bowling received the message loud and clear and will continue to avoid participating, instead hoping it all goes away.
  15. And from there it developed into today's world of unfortunate values and all of the poor choices made by men. Girls did this to us.
  16. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Yes. And be honest, would you refuse or salute and go?
  17. Bingo. The why of health things is often not complicated and the down stream benefits can be huge for the individual and society.
  18. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Did you bother to notice that your hero President, against prison rules for pedophiles, had Ghislane Maxwell transferred to a fenceless minimum security prison camp? And that's not all. Her status is security level OUT. That means she can leave for the day to work etc. and just come back to sleep. Let me guess, you see nothing wrong with that, nor can you see Trumps hand in it, nor can you possibly imagine that Trump got something in exchange for it.
  19. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Nice avatar of a fool using the American flag as a bag for his dick and balls. Cute.
  20. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Seems likely they're coming. The US is becoming a damn embarrassment. Too many think just saluting the flag shows you're a patriot who supports his country; a shallow belief at best as evidenced daily by the morons driving around shredding the huge ones mounted on their trucks. Teaching kids to pledge allegiance to a piece of fabric instead of the founding documents and guiding principles that distinguish our nation from lesser ones has been a huge error, I think. Just look at our Secretary of Defense who sports an American Flag snot rag in his jacket pocket as his proof of fidelity.
  21. JoeWeber

    Trump

    Trump posted on Truth Social that people experiencing unsheltered homelessness (in DC) must "move out immediately." Is Bekin's Van Lines still around? Maybe me and BIGUN (I'll need someone to lift the furniture) can get us a sweet government contract.
  22. When you've got jack shit to do with your day why not travel the world with your family at taxpayers expense? Ever been to the Taj at mid day? Get there early when the fog from the Yamuna River is burning away and the view is stunning with very few folks around. Of course, a hour after the Shatabdi Express from Delhi arrives around 8 the place is packed. And then if you want a nice family photo of with your boys wearing Kurta's that would get you deported in America then you just ask that the place be vacated. Bada Bing!
  23. Interestingly the Azerbaijani school system is currently secular with religious interests working for change, like here. Now that our IRS has allowed pastors to preach politics from the pulpit we're one foot further out the door and down the rungs. That's what I oppose. I am all for secular support services as described, and with my tax money, as long as religion is no where in sight.
  24. Used to be. You might check the news on what some of your republican brethren think is good curriculum.