JoeWeber

I'm certainly warming up to the new spelling of my name, I have to say. I don't deny that I'm angered but you have it wrong as to why. We simply have different ways of seeing human rights progress in our own nation. For you it seems reasonable to view it like a stock chart. You have your up's and downs but over time you are making progress. I see no reason why in an enlightened world any down progress for any group of people should be accepted as the normal course of things. No. That's just wrong in my view. So, I think push back and anger are the required tools. When groups of people vote for, and I repeat myself, callous assholes who will appoint judges who will reverse that progress, I get pissed off. You may not like it but the truth is that religion drives a hell of a lot of that in America. There absolutely is a Gay's aren't equal component to the religious vote. And you yourself believe, in spite of the science that says no, that life begins when any two heart cells join. That's a religious view, too. That man can not alter God's Creation so the EPA is unnecessary and AGW has to be false are also religious views that, in my opinion, cause great harm. A year ago in another country we were at a dinner party with some Swiss friends and were joined by an American we'd just met. Like happens in other countries, politics were served with the meal. The American guy flatly stated that based on his faith he was a one issue voter: end Roe v. Wade and nothing else mattered. I see that level of consideration to be a very large problem.

He can't. They never can actually point to what your friend Barry did that might start a war. Obama droned a lot of assholes and I always supported it. I also supported President Bush using drones to kill assholes. I totally support using Seals, Delta, Rangers or any US or allied special forces to do nasty work against combatants in a war. But using drones to assassinate a foreign government official on an allies soil is just asking for big trouble. And let's be honest here, Trump is an unprepared moron who has denuded the government of capable advisors--not that he'd listen anyway--so this is especially freaky.

Well written but I think I can do it with more economy. Jeo, we're enjoying ourselves and if that negatively impacts you, well, fuck you. It could be far worse for you, your weird friends and your promiscuous nieces. Don't remind us. Seriously. You'll get what you're given, when we give it, and if it suits us to take it back, well, fuck you.

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That's fantastic, for you. But what about for me? What about my LGBTQ brothers and sisters? How about my nieces who I want to have reproductive choices? Kieth, it has zero to do with what a "wonderful life you live" and that's the problem. Will you now come out (no mistaken choice of words) and disclaim that we are a Christian Nation? Will you agree that your beliefs deserve no more suckle from the Government than mine? Will you agree that every person deserves the freedom to live their lives as they choose without interference from anyones religious dogma?

No kidding, we are all so tight assed but not you. You alway's crack me up!

That's a relief, I thought this was about me. So now that I'm in a religion like you tell me: do 98% of scientists agree with either of your religions?

Please, and the detail will be excruciating one word or a million, outline the things Trump has done for America that you find beneficial.

No, I hadn't, and nothing about it reminds me of a joke. That's not to say it isn't all a total joke, in particular your comment that your Almighty, Omniscient, all seeing God needed to farm out church security to an armed team like the one Ron is on at his Church. Sorry to offend you DJL, I very much respect you and your views, but it's these sorts of inane defenses and comments that make the whole thing so risible.

Stop making it so complicated. God loves all of his children equally. But that certainly doesn't mean he likes them all equally. Maybe they were assholes who shorted the bake sale one too many times. You never know, it's just mysterious.

And that is why I don't browse real estate listings in bumfuck N. Georgia.

Hey, don't forget this: Coreece said: "They're too disorganized and divided among themselves right now to pose much of a threat. Eventually they'll get their act together when Christianity in this country has tempered to a whisper where they can finally hear themselves think. It'll be a country of Nones, with no God, no jobs and no power - and their long awaited atheistic utopia will be competing with 3 billion Christians and 3 billion Muslims that have just completed their state of the art industrialized metropolises throughout the entire eastern world - and soon thereafter they'll realize their god of evolution and progress has betrayed them." Will those "state of the art industrialized metropolis's" you Billions of Righteous Believers will be living in be like on the Jetson's? I'm curious, will you be using Bible and Koran Science to pull that off? What about Armegeddon, will one of those Nirvana's be built there?

More like birds of a feather flock together, I'm thinking.

Agreed.

So are three ring binders. Stop tossing biscuits just to be non-confrontational.

Trust me. I know the people. Just say Joe Weber sent you.

And maybe you should get used to this following you around SC every time you post horseshit and then claim it wasn't so: Coreece said: "They're too disorganized and divided among themselves right now to pose much of a threat. Eventually they'll get their act together when Christianity in this country has tempered to a whisper where they can finally hear themselves think. It'll be a country of Nones, with no God, no jobs and no power - and their long awaited atheistic utopia will be competing with 3 billion Christians and 3 billion Muslims that have just completed their state of the art industrialized metropolises throughout the entire eastern world - and soon thereafter they'll realize their god of evolution and progress has betrayed them." That's the weird, baseless, made-up silliness you've been brainwashed to believe. Maybe if you are left to read it a hundred times you'll realize that what you believe can not be true. Nigel is not only sincere he is very thoughtful. Instead of accepting Jesus, why not accept the good example?

Oh, you mean like putting baking soda on battery acid? Sure, that's what he meant and we're all just dumb enough to buy it, too.

That's a two-fer: False equivalency and bullshit. First off there ain't no left in the same sense there is a right. About the only thing that we have in common is the smell of our socks. Now someone might say they hate what the religion is doing to the people in Prayeristan but we of the smelly sock brigade wouldn't be saying we hate the country or the people. Absolutely true. Why? Well, standing up for the civil liberties of your fellow citizens is right thing to do. Actually, it's the left thing to do. The Right thing is voting for callous assholes who will appoint judges who will take rights away from those held in disfavor by the currently popular deity.

Load. Of. Crap. You see us as evil, ignorant and arrogant. You believe we must be completely neutralized. We won't take the yoke and accept your drivel so we have to go the hard way. You can play your usual dance around game but it won't wash again. Like Ron, you want us reduced to servitude to your God. There is nothing nuanced or complex about either of you.

Because Jesus? Everyone loves a Jihad, right. But it's O.K. because you're still being persecuted and other human beings want to live as they choose, unfettered by Bronze Age superstitions and without the guidance of Shamans. That shit must stop, and now. And if anyone get's caught in the open carry crossfire, well, Inshallah.

Or hit the "Donate Now!" button when materialistic prosperity pastor Friar Shuck needs another 5G Jet. All tax deductible in the name of almighty God and hypocrisy.

Poor you and your debilitating inferiority complex, of course I own it. I thought it was Ken who first schooled me after I "ilked" Ron, and as Ken is someone I trust to grasp a point I felt comfortable jabbing him and myself at the same time. I busted the rules of this obscure forum and got spanked. Bummer. All I can do now is try to redeem myself in your eyes and hope to someday be forgiven.