JoeWeber

Excellent point! If Brent has his way I'll be able to get my own therapy Mammoth.

Don't save your jump tickets waiting, Joe. New PAC's and Blackhawk conversions are +/- $1.5M. I've converted 3. Who knows what the tag on these will be but I think new Twin Otters are $6M so they won't be less, I'll guess. For giggles, it's easy math to know what number will work for jump planes. Figure 20% down and the rest at whatever interest rate you like but think 5-8%, 10 year amortization. That'll give you the monthly mortgage payment. Then figure 2% Hull insurance plus $3-5K for a Million Liability. So a $1.2M loan on a $1.5M aircraft @ 5% will have a $12-13K monthly nut or +/-$180K per year before anything else. Maintenance $20-25K, Pilots $40-50K. Now you are at $250K. Fly it 400 Hours and you'll burn 20,000 gallons of Jet at $4 a gallon. So now you're at $330K per year for 400 hours use. So you'll need to get +800 per hour from operations just for the aircraft. And all of that is only if the thing that was designed to last forever actually does. Good luck with that. Also, a pilot error hot start on a -42A can be north of $250K and it is an uninsured loss. Trust me, I know. Then there are engine reserves and etc. so if you aren't taking in $1100 and hour and have a Hot Section Payment in the bank you could be toast any day. So at least for now there is a valuation ceiling that is +/- $1.5M. Of course the $75 jump ticket and the $500 Tandem could change all that fast.

So true. As I said to skybytch separately: "... giving salutes to the new senior jumpers for doing the right things from people like you could easily be the most sport strengthening things you ever said." We're not completely F'n useless :)

"...if this is right, if this law we guess is right, to see what it would imply and then we compare the computation results to nature or we say compare to experiment or experience, compare it directly with observations to see if it works." Because observation could be wrong. The complete Messenger Lectures Feynman gave are available online. Awesome vid, no doubt.

That was lame, but no matter, I'm warming up to you somehow. I've unblocked you and given you a merit. The times they are a' changin'.

No, he didn't say that. He said: “If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. In that simple statement is the key to science.”

That's all fine and good but until someone can describe in joules the difference between a motherfucker and a puppy kicking motherfucker why stop?

You are so awesome. Also, you aren't the only person who has hired weird looking packers.

Fantastic, I'll take Ryoder as your proxy. Will you accept his mathematical determination of the likelihood of Jesus as you believe him to be?

Unicorn? Did I win? What's my prize?

Got me. I'm still trying to prove things go bump in the night so I can sue somebody.

One true and one not true. Damn yo, you are on a tear.

Is he also less of a racist than he used to be?

If that's true, and I'll trust your word, it must be totally worth the added risk.

Ya, but haba beeba bobba yowza umza himza weeza youza libtards.

And this, Dear Turtlespeed, is why you'll likely never again get to be the least interesting poster on DZ.com.

Not 100%, he isn't. At his core he is an indoctrinated, right wing, anti-liberal addict. Don't forget his post lauding Trumps judicial picks and his "regrets" that he'll be forced to vote Trump again. Don't forget his homophobic posts. Don't forget Maya Angelou: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

And what about cheap, reliable and abundant slaves to help get things going? We're hypocrites there, too.

Wendy.......?

You're new right? It's called Brent-ercize: left, right, up, down, shake that booty, shake that booty, left, right, up, down, shake that booty, shake that booty. Before you know it you'll have lost 10 pounds of logic.

Probably, that would be best. Your personal sense of right will never let you be quiet if you see a dangerous thing. Obviously, if it's an immediate thing you have to speak up, even at the risk of being wrong. If it's not or if it's being offered more for your ego than anyones benefit and safety then inform staff or the most experienced and current local jumpers you can find. The reality is that after a few, or several, thousand skydives and decades in the sport currency is a different thing. But one or two jumps a year shouldn't be emulated. And, really, even if it's at the same DZ you'd be a transient jumper at best. Sure, just like back in the day, we still have a cutaway handle, a reserve ripcord handle, a reserve and a main and, maybe, an AAD. But it's not all the same, including how we use the things. As I see it, it's not about you or me or any other old timer. Pass the torch and the authority to the ones who are current and there every day. It's their turn to be senior now, give them their due and their turn to earn respect.

I'm curious Ken, if the asshole you're having a good time playing with is impenetrable is it still gay?

Adding important new meaning to the phrase: "eat my shorts".

If engaging with assholes for pleasure make someone gay, I guess I am now.

Yes. Today and tomorrow we're in sync. But you cannot stop accelerating AGW anymore than I can stop the Sun from aging. In the meantime I'll continue to be a hypocrite, burning fossil fuels and living large.