JoeWeber

Home defense, not yard defense. I might also have pointed out that it's a jackass move to defend your home with a pistol or an AR-15. In bed, in the middle of the night it's the sound of the receiver on an automatic shotgun slamming a round home that set's the tone. And, even better, no imagined marksmanship necessary. Like speakers corner, theres no accuracy required to play.

In today's legal environment, probably. But that does not make it morally or ethically justifiable. How is it that the turn the other cheek society is also the pull your gun and shoot society?

Hey Coreece, seriously, do you think at least one poster here isn't jonesing to cap some motherfucker they deem unreasonable? They've said so, right? You know, pull their weapon at a park, deal with unreasonable liberals and on and on. It's no circle jerk. This is how they fantasize.

“A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) spokeswoman said on Friday agents had been deployed to Portland to support a newly launched U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) unit, tasked with enforcing last month’s executive order from Republican President Donald Trump to protect federal monuments and buildings.” Immigration and Customs Enforcement and DHS’s Federal Protective Service are also reportedly involved. An unnamed “senior DHS official” defended the arrests, which have been described as renditions since videos have shown the security forces do not announce a reason for detainment, do not identify themselves, and do not read Miranda rights." I do believe a lot of folks, on hearing they were going to a rendition, might imagine they were going to hear happy children singing songs. Certainly they would not imagine that, without their rights being explained, they were about to be tossed into a Black Maria, with no opportunity to call their lawyer and then spirited away into the night to a unknown location where there were definitely no happy children singing songs. Nonetheless, that is apparently where we are in America today. Thanks, patriots.

Bullshit, and mixed up bullshit at that. Wendy observed that the protesters shouldn't have been there and I, and most others here, definitely agree. But to your point, if you were afraid and demonstrating a deterrent to an attack wouldn't it be smarter to be behind a wall with a shotgun out the window rather than standing on nicely mown grass in front of who knows how many enemies? So no, they weren't afraid. They were being AR-15 loving, gun nut assholes displaying rich, white privilege. They were escalating a situation and vastly increasing the chances that someone would get shot for what at that point was trespassing. Seriously, WTF is it with the idea that defending your home should also include chasing the motherfuckers down the driveway and firing rifled slugs through their rear window? You really need to get your head straight before you pull a gun on your UPS driver and drop him because your 75 year old nervous system can no longer tell how hard you are pulling on the trigger.

So the way it's taught is never point a gun in the direction of someone you do not intend to shoot. To my eye he's set-up nicely to put one through her tits. If you prefer to think letting one loose just behind her without looking is better somehow, that's fine. Either way he just failed Good Guy with a Gun 101.

Some might argue this is an example of piss poor muzzle discipline while others might see a good plan. Maybe next time. For sure, if you are going to shoot someone with a pistol too small to see you should do it while scratching your ass.

Ah, it's not so bad. Just put on your beats headset and close your eyes and you won't know we're there.

Thank you. That really helped. And now, let's get back to fighting for his right to vote.

Why? What's it take to get you Canadians excited? Puppy kicking? Drunk driving in school zones? Cancelling winter? I'm to where I think it's perfectly appropriate to wish ill on ignorant assholes in positions of power that are selfishly putting others at risk.

It's not kicking him when he's down, it's simply observing it wasn't an injustice anymore than if he'd lost his money because he believed keeping it in his armpits was smart.

Do you reckon he was praying he wouldn't get it before he got it or was he maybe distracted by praying for winning lottery numbers?

So Green New Deal equals Magical thinking. Agreed, just to get that out of the way. So were you around when President Kennedy proposed putting a man on the moon? Did you call bullshit based on existing technology?

Yes you do, just as I do. I have black and red presents in my stocking for calling Ron d---------. But he is. And others here have subsequently noted the same in more acceptable ways. Whatever. Oh, this old world Keeps spinning round It's a wonder tall trees Ain't layin' down There comes a time

Back to the topic: https://twitter.com/AsteadWesley/status/1283409400741408771?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1283409400741408771|twgr^&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.alternet.org%2F2020%2F07%2Fa-new-trump-ad-shows-why-his-re-election-campaign-is-such-a-disaster%2F Innocent children fatally shot.... you Trumpies are a sweet bunch.

Um, you might have attacked an honest heathen.

I know you're mad at me for filling in the pond and banning 270's and greater but I'll always have a slot for someone with such impeccable credentials.

Are you salivating? Will you need permission to kill "unreasonable liberals" like you did those unreasonable communists? Don't worry gramps, when you start waving your pistol at us we'll all just line up and march to the pits.

I seem to recall at one of his lectures he displayed the Ouroborus. Fitting.

In fairness to Phil, Fox News is more than a bit excessive. What they spew spreads wide and far beyond only those who watch the show. One day early, two weeks I think, into the pandemic I was on lockdown at anchor in Sint Maarten. One morning on the VHF net we used for daily info some dipshit announced that President Trump discovered that Hydroxychloroquine was the cure and it would all be over soon. Turns out he heard it on SSB Radio from somebody somewhere that heard it on Fox News. Fox is a pox.

That would impute an R naught factor of +/- 30. Seems about right.

If they were wearing Swiss Guard Pantaloons, I Dream of Jeanie Sequin Vests, and Fez Hats as long as they were all lined up in military order and slinging AR-15's in "military ready" carry position then they would still be totally glomming on to America's current Sparta like idolization of the military. It's all completely moronic and as a society we do not need it or glean any benefit from the practice. Some posters here need to get out of America for some serious travel and experience again what America used to be like: no jerks with open carry Glocks on their hips and no sense of foreboding when a cop pulls up behind you.

The concept of societies is essentially, as currently defined, a liberal one. The idea being that self interest is mutual interest. Conservatism, again as currently defined and professed by some SC posters, concludes that self interest is superior to mutual interests. Liberals overlay time frames that might go beyond their own lifetimes. Conservative mostly worry about today. Asking them to make connections about their choices that affect others, especially these days, is a waste of time.

We live on a world. You were told, right? Maybe you can just hop your backyard fence and land in the 7-11's parking lot for some Covid free shopping, good for you. But there isn't anything stopping other "I get it but reserve the right to make my own decision" free spirits like yourself from crossing county lines and delivering a little infection with their bottle returns to your little slice of heaven. That's the problem.

Because you still have the same eyesight, hearing, hand eye coordination and reflexes you had 50+ years ago? Just be careful you don't put one through your tin foil hat Wyatt.