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Those are damned impressive! Wow.

That is a very nice.... uhhh.... What were you talking about?

Still do, but the definition of "box" has changed over the years. Besides, Webster's says the adult definition is usually considered "vulgar".

It is pretty damned cool. Now if you could admit that you want it because it is cool, rather than for dropzone defense or because of your right to bear potatoes, we'd all be in agreement.

The action shot of him getting tossed is pretty cool.

Like, say... FreezeFest at x-Keys? Actually, I don't own a potato gun myself. I'm much more of a watch-n-smirk spectator. Usually, the shenanigans continue long after I'm asleep. However, your safety advice is duly noted, and I'll pass it along should I be in an appropriate situation. Thanks!

Well, duh! Of course they look cool.

When I care about fashion and spell like a twelve year old girl, just put me out of my misery!

NacMac, I think we would find the inspections inconclusive. The vegetables of mass destruction were all cut up and turned into unaccounted-for french fries. The current whereabouts of the french fries are unknown, but the arrival of a McDonalds in the area leads us to believe there is a terrorist connection between Saddam Hussein and Ronald McDonald.

Damnit. When I take the time to quote properly, I'm just not fast enough. You bastard!

"You'll have to pry my potato gun out of my cold dead hands." - Me

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-558570,00.html The "latest craze"? This is nothing new. Just practice safe potato-gunning folks. Yeah, right. People were firing them straight up, at night, covered in glowing lightstick fluid the last time I saw one in use. Sheesh! Skydivers.

I want to get really self-sufficent at packing, but I haven't been able to get over the hump yet. Right now, it takes me so long that a day where I could make 6 jumps turns into a day where I make 2. Because I take so few days away from my family to go jumping, I want to make them all count. My goal: self-packing by Rantoul.

Two shirts in Maryland. And although there are lots of volunteers, it wouldn't surprise me if HH pulled rank and stepped to the head of the line on the mujie-painting.

Let me know how that one turns out, and how it compares to Shiner.

What kind is your first batch? Mine is a raspberry ale. I bottled it on Saturday. I got a big package from St. Pat's yesterday with another carboy, a racking kit, some misc. stuff and two more batches of ingredients. I got a hefeweizen and a porter. Starting to stock back up and get the beer flow really going.

Besides, life would be boring without right-wing, easily-bothered gun nuts to argue with. Dave, how is the homebrew going?

Do they know about Operation Melons?

I'm not saying that at all, but I see where you could get that impression. I agree with you, that it isn't that simple. Throughout the gun ownership/gun control debate, those terms have been thrown around by the gun advocates with amazing regularity, and used in illustrating the differences between groups. They have been cited as the reason why we don't need more gun laws, and why gun laws don't work. Those same definitions have been tied to the second amendment, and to rights and freedoms. True. You are a moderate, rational voice in the discussion. Others have said that, often with lots of derrogatory terms thrown in. A lot of people have used street terms like "perp" and "scum" for criminals, without realizing they fall into those same categories based on some of their actions. I'm just calling them on the double standard. Also correct. Like so many issues we talk about on the forums, it isn't the clear cut "us" and "them" division some people make it out to be. For example, the "raghead terrorists" as they've been called, are fighting for what they believe in. Granted, it isn't the same thing we believe in. But they are disobeying laws and responding to how they see themselves being opressed. But the same people talking about willfully disobeying our laws are talking about "bombing them back to the stone age". I just think the folks talking about they are above our laws should be aware that they are calling for the absolute annhilation of people like themselves. The sad yet amusing thing is that many of them don't even realize it. I'm not saying there aren't differences between suicide bombers and the people that signed the Declaration of Independence, just that there are more similarities than some people care to admit. I think we agree on more than we disagree, but that isn't necessarily true with some of the more vocal and unreasoning people in this debate.

Deuce, The funny thing is that I don't even drink coffee. This morning, the tea I had WAS decaf. Maybe the one word should have been: Ritalin.

The are two sides of the same issue, which is legality. If you believe that as a law-abiding citizen, you have the right to use deadly force against a criminal who is doing something wrong to you, you need to be consistant in your attitude and definitions. If you choose the path of civil disobedience against bad laws, then, by definition, you are a criminal. I'm just saying that you cannot be both law-abiding and a criminal at the same time. If you are a criminal, even according to all the pro-gun folks in this thread, you should not have the right to own weapons. The gun advocates have been very clear about the difference between law-abiding and criminal, and how the rights of the former should not belong to the latter. In willfully disobeying the law, they should also acknowledge their change in status and be willing to be treated accordingly. I'm not saying that civil disobedience is a bad thing, just that you have to take personal responsibility for your actions. (Woah, what a concept, when used against a pro-gun argument.) During the civil rights movement, people expected to be arrested for their violations of the laws. They realized the consequences and accepted them.

Kevin, I understand completely. But a person can't have it both ways. One can't talk about civil disobedience at the same time they are talking about being justified in emptying Glocks at criminals and "perps". There comes a point where they just need to pick a side and stick with it.

So all the stuff about duty, honor and being a good law-abiding citizen is just fluff? You are only obligated to obey the laws you like? Must be nice.

Yeah, sometimes that damned good deeds stuff slips in by accident.

The objection that came up before in the "Ballistic Fingerprinting" thread was that even having to register a gun is supposedly a violation of civil rights. Ownership should be anonymous, so the goverment can't use the list to repress the people. Or so I was told...