Guru312

Thanks for that!! What a hoot. Never heard it before. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

The Knights were my heros, too. In 1960 I started jumping with the XVIII ABN Corps SPC and the Army Golden Knights were in a building across the street. We watched them from afar. They were my heros because they were permitted to jump a canopy known as a very "hot and difficult to control" 7 gore TU modification. Beginners like me, were only permitted to jump a T or LL canopy. 7 TUs being WAY too high performance for the likes of a non-knights jumper. I'm proud of myself, being able to remember that far back into the last century. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Jeesh, Jerry, you are making it worse! :) I'm still not sure I know what a round is and now you have me pondering what you mean by these comments: A modified round = Sputnik orbiting the earth A ParaCommander = Putting a man on the moon ...in the beginning there were only rounds. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Good stuff for sure. I have copies of most of those movies from my days of "selling" skydiving to college groups and others. But I still don't have an answer: What is a round? How many of your thousands of jumps are on rounds? Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Well...something that is making *me* feel older is understanding this thread. To me, a "round" is a 28 ft diameter canopy modified with a T, LL or the really hot accuracy canopy called a 7 TU. I have 2-300 jumps on 7 TU rigs but I never attempted CRW with one. Set me straight, what is a round? Remember, also, that during the time period of my round jumps touching someone in freefall was front page news. Seeing someone from close enough to tell who they are in freefall was a momentous occasion. Or so I remember.... Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Only since the whuffos took over... Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

And I am still not DB Cooper. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Something tells me that it won't be necessary to stroke my MENSA card to conjure the knowledge that Blevins will be all over you for that comment. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

My bullshit meter begins to quiver when I see a paragraph of seven dense lines of text containing no capitals, no commas and only two periods--both at the end of the same sentence--submitted by the new-kid-on-the-block author who is promoting his new book. In my opinion, writing with such poor style and grammar triggers a reverse Streisand effect: few will buy his book. I certainly won't. The irony is that the post was edited. I can't imagine what it looked like before the edit. I'm still not DB Cooper, by the way. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Certainly not wasted! The Man himself has finally been lured into the forum!! I knew that sooner or later old DB would be checking in to taunt and mock the loonies here. He's even using his real name. The chutzpah of the guy!! Correlate his IP address with his location and send in the SWAT teams. And then find something meaningful to do with your life. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Nearly 50,000 posts and 2,000,000 views and you're just now figuring that out??!! Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

The big deal is that you seem to be suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect. Here is a direct link so others can follow along as you read about yourself and your self-delusion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

... NOBODY is agreeing with you. Not one. Do you have any idea how rare unanimous opinion on here is? Exactly. I am 72 years old. I've been hanging around this wonderful sport for over 50 years. I've been a drop zone operator, Instructor, jumpmaster, pilot, rigger and fun jumper. I have learned that people who have an attitude such as yours die early. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Doesn't that question show your deep knowledge of porn? Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

It'll take one hell of lot more than pressing the correct radio button to make sense of what these folks are trying to communicate. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

In this case, as usual, it is wise to pay attention to the advice of airtwardo. You couldn't ask for much more in regard to experience with both flying and jumping. Notice my jump numbers. Embarrassingly low for the years in the sport. Why? Because I spent more time teaching classes, time as a JM and a pilot flying jumpers. No one can do all three well. Pick one and stick with it. Everyone is different with different goals but you can't really do both piloting and jumping well. I have 2000+ hours flying jumpers. I made...maybe...50 jumps during that time. I've been self-employed in a totally unrelated business during the week... with jumping and flying only on weekends. I didn't even do it for the money. I easily made payments on the plane from "rental" of the plane and my pay. I did it for the love of the people and the atmosphere of the DZ. I can't relate well to non-jumpers. [Because I don't really want to.] There is something VERY special about the world-view held by people who love to jump out of airplanes. I think you should re-think your goal(s) because you won't be able to do both well. If your goal is to do both you will achieve mediocrity. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

I made my first sport jump while in the 82nd Airborne Division at Ft. Bragg, NC in 1960. In 1969 I opened my first DZ. I was a DZO for 4-5 years. I then was a "Gypsy" pilot flying a DZs in the Delaware Valley (PA, NJ, MD, DE) I "retired" from jumping before AFF instruction began and tandems were "invented". Back in the '60s if a person wanted to make a "bucket list" jump they did it solo as a static line student. I'm curious about something that those of you reading this thread may know: Has anyone done a statistical analysis of number of students who make tandems or S/L jumps who go onto AFF or static line progression? Is there any evidence that tandems produce either more or less "longer term skydivers over AFF or SL. For al lthe things I've seen over the years, the one which is most mind boggling to me is paying another person to pack your rig. I simply do not get that concept. Being a skydiver is knowing how to pack your own rig and having the guts to do so on every jump. I guess I'm really old fashioned. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

I can imagine. I'm an INTP and the OP sounds like one also. You can understand why I asked. Both INTP/INTJ all think WAY too much. Analysis paralysis. One poster up thread suggested to go with drilled-in training. I agree with that. This sport doesn't allow much time for analysis when something goes wrong. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Are you an INTP? Whether you are or not an INTP you think and analyze waaaay too much. You'll note that I don't have a lot of jumps. That's because I spent most of my time in the sport teaching. A few thousand people. If you were my student I would take you aside and suggest that you stop the analysis and simply do what your instructors are telling you to do. If you don't trust their knowledge and methods you should stop and take up bowling or stamp collecting. If you do trust their knowledge and methods you should follow their advice and jump. Think about the jump afterwards... Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Even better: This thread has no clueless and obnoxious whuffos who think they know everything about everything. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

This place gets crazier with every post.... Thanks, Jo, for the impetus to leave...again. Goodbye, D B Cooper. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

Of course. Almost everything being "discussed" here is a non-point. What is being accomplished by all of this "discussion"? Really? I truly don't get it. I question my own rationality for even bothering to read this thread...and post once a month the way I do. Doing what DB did was almost trivial. Thousands -...tens of thousands...of jumpers could pull it off. With one exception: doing it alone without loss of the money bag. Tying the money bag to the harness/body without help is almost impossible. The found money pretty much confirms it, from my perspective. 550 cord (parachute line to you whuffos) is notoriously difficult to work with and tie... without some practice. The act of tying the bag to the harness or his body without another pair of hands to support the cumbersome weight and shape of the bag would be very difficult, IMO. Finding buried money, dredging, pressure bumps, rain, placards, airways etc etc,..all unimportant. He jumped and he lost the money. Maybe he died. Maybe he didn't. If I did he jump...I wouldn't tell anyone. I'd be too embarrassed... I am not D B Cooper. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

How intriguing. What's your theory as to why a wash down theory isn't realistic? I'm not attempting humor or sarcasm; it seems to me that "how the money got there" ...given the speculated ways...has not been definitively determined and agreed upon. Oddly.

Yeah! What he said! +27 1/3 Guru312 I am not DB Cooper

What he said! I can barely contain myself while waiting for your response. Guru312 I am not DB Cooper