BlueEyedMonster

Hey Dude, I know you want to help, but you don't even know which reg key is causing the problem. SP1 may fix it, or may not. And, you don't need a special program to edit a reg key. Regit will do that for you.

Ha ha ha If it's still giving you problems, and you cannot ignore it... my messenger handles are in my forum profile, catch me on one of them--I'll walk you through it. --Jason

To billvon: From what it said on their website they have usage agreements with 20 something major cellular carriers. I would assume that it is probably the same type of roaming agreement that they all use. To riddler: Exactly! and why not discuss it with your jump pilot? That's what I am going to do this weekend. So Have fun all! I'm off to the DZ See ya Monday morning--if weather permits.

And to play the trump card....ya, I was saving this one Regardless of the technical stuff, or what the FCC or FAA says. The Pilot of the plane and the flight crew ARE the law on any flight. Disobeying a request from them (i.e. turning off your cell phone when asked to) is a felony.

I hear clicking in my headset when a cell phone (even the f'n precious PCS phone) is turned on in the back of the plane*** You always will. My PCS phone makes my earphones click whenever it checks in with the tower or right before it rings.

This is what I think the answer is... It is not really fair to be locking down a frequency across half a state because you hit all those towers at once. But remember, this regulation is for analog phones. Digital PCS phones are different technology.

They are chordless transmitting devices... Sure they may use a repeater, but that one antenna on the outside of the plane transmits/receives to/from standard and proprietary cell sites. So those frequencies must be the same. Then the next question here is... what causes the navigational anomalies? RFI or EMI? My guess is the EMI since all the other devices interfere too. If that is the case.. regarless of frequency, the seatback phones could just as easily interfere.

I mentioned FCC rules. Clearly the FAA also has rules. Break them at your own risk. _Am There is no FAA regulation. As far as I can find the FAA only "supports the FCC regulation." But do you want to know what is really funny that I just found? The seatback phones on airliners are regular cellular phones!! They use the existing cell sites on the ground in addition to special sites that point up. http://www.aircell.com/ Edited to add some more informational reading The FAA has rules restricting the use of PEDs on commercial airlines. Those rules, at 14 CFR 91.21, 121.306 and 135.144, prohibit the operation of a PED on an aircraft unless the airline has determined that the device will not cause interference with the navigation or communication system of the aircraft. The rule includes exceptions for portable voice recorders, hearing aids, heart pacemakers, and electric shavers to allow them to be used. The rules do not apply to private planes flying under visual flight rules (VFR). Additionally, the FAA published Advisory Circular (AC) 91.21-1 in 1993 to help aircraft operators comply with FAA regulations. The AC recommended that the use of PEDs be prohibited during the takeoff and landing phases of flight below 10,000 feet. As justification, the FAA cites both the potential for electronic interference with aircraft systems and the potential for passengers to miss safety announcements. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) also has rules in this area. Its rule, at 47 CFR 22.925, prohibits the use of cell phones after the aircraft leaves the ground. This rule applies to all aircraft whether commercial or private or whether powered or simply a balloon. The FCC rule applies only to cell phones. It does not apply to other PEDs. Nor, according to a FCC engineer, does it apply to PCS phones such as the AT&T Wireless or the Sprint PCS. From what it sounds like, Laptops and CD players actually cause more problems than cell phones do. Source: http://www.house.gov/transportation/aviation/hearing/07-20-00/07-20-00memo.html

I'm not going to disagree--it's not impossible. Lack of convenience -vs- odds of happening. If only one plane in Europe crashed in the millions of planes that fly.... those odds do not justify a change in policy. I think thats why on every flight I have been on in the US, I have seen at least one person ignoring the rule. ***Turn your cell phone off. It's the law. Please see this post. Only if its 800 mhz http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=532860#532860 I have a PCS phone, it is not required to turn it off. Although I agree the phones should be turned off for different reasons than you, and I do turn mine off whenever requested... Since when do skydivers do things they don't want to "because its the law." I guess was just looking for something a little more concrete and motivational.

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I love it when two articles contradict eachother! However the second, is from the UK. In Europe they use different frequencies and standards for their phones. And, when I pilot sees a malfunction, how does he know its not a laptop, a cd player, or flying 5000ft above a 100,000 watt radio transmitter that is actually causing the problem? Edit to add: I think the best thing would be to respect the FCC's decision based on the shared frequency issue. Take your phone with you for emergencies and off landings, but make sure it is turned off on the plane.

Ha ha ha Don't pick on poor Viking. The looks on the faces was the first thing I noticed too.

Does your insight give you anything to support this cell phone theory other than pure speculation? I believe billvon's facts about signal sharing is the real reason for the regulation. Who is going to actually turn off your phone if I asked you to because of signal sharing--which is a very valid reason to keep them off at altitude. But, I bet you will turn off that phone if I tell you it will crash the plane. After hearing that a turned on cell phone will crash planes flight after flight it becomes believed to be a fact. Then it becomes speculation in unexplained incidents. Its the stuff urban legends are made of. Especially when someone as respected and experienced as you repeats it.

That happens with any unshielded speaker in close proximity to a cell phone. That report does not mention anything about a cell phone. Does this mean that if you can't find a cause it was a suspected cell phone? That is not very scientific/logical. Aren't most jump planes, at least at smaller DZ's, VFR? I jump with a phone occasionally, not to make calls, but in case of emergency or an off landing. The pilots and DZO are aware I have done this, and actually think it is a good idea--especially after one of our jumpers had an off landing at another DZ. He laid in a ditch with a broken pelvis for 45 minutes before someone found him.

you are reading it wrong.... the scale is .5 miles. So I did somewhere between a mile and a half to 2 miles. I do that too sometimes. I use a Garmin Etrex Vista. It has a barometric altimeter in it and will also log altitudes through the path of the track.

A.) I don't believe a police officer would look at that video and not agree lethal force was necessary. That would be like you or I looking at a video of a jumper under a stiletto with a dozen line twist spinning to the ground.... and saying the jumper should kick out and not pull the silver handle. B.) Any police officer that uses lethal weapon (gun) as a non-lethal alternative (shooting for an arm) will violate training/policy, and possibly the law. If non lethal means are adequate to solve a situation, then only non-lethal defensive measures can be used. C.) Any police officer that does not have the gonads to used lethal force when faced with a lethal threat needs to find a different job. These officers followed their training, the DA, and the Police Chief agreed the shooting was justified. But, you are entitled to your opinion however incorrect in this situation it has proven to be.

Ha ha ha Chill on the decimals... I gave all the numbers... To make them even for comparison (10,000 drivers to skydivers) you have to divide and thus the decimals. The people are still whole I don't know about the plane rides, I linked my sources... so whatever the USPA considers a skydiving fatality is what I used.

If I had to choose between skydiving or driving a car I would set mysef on FIRE!!! Oh did I misread the post I chose skydiving... I don't have a car

I know I KNOW!!! OK so I remembered wrong. Here are the correct numbers and sources: Driving ------ http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908123.html 191,275,719 licensed drivers in 2001 http://www.madd.org/stats/0,1056,4809,00.html 42,116 Traffic fatalities in 2001 2.2 Traffic Fatalities per 10,000 licensed drivers Skydiving ------ http://www.uspa.org/about/page2/relative_safety.htm 35 fatalities in 2001 http://www.uspa.org/about/sport.htm#statistics 34,322 uspa members in 2001 10.2 Skydiving fatalities per 10,000 USPA members

Gemini... Scary to think I might have a twin. But, I guess we are the hotties of the Zodiac anyway.

So what is more fun then... Skydiving nekked or sex with half your clothes on?

Some day when I grow up... I want to do BOTH at once.

I've gone a whole year... Don't ask me why or how. But, now-a-days, as long as my work shift. If I'm at the DZ all weekend that might be the longest. That was almost every day of aweful puberty at the age of 17.

Same Here!