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So in the case of Shaun Hornbeck parents, they consulted probably to 2 best known psychics in the US and were told by both there son was dead.. only to find out years later he wasnt. and you dont have a problem with that.???? Your not bothered by these people, Browne, Van Praagh, Edwards making millions of dollars by explioting people, by preying on there emotions?????? Its interesting that the psychic industry is not regulated, there is nothing to stop you setting up shop tomorrow as a psychic, no tests you have to take, no formal qualifications needed, why is that do you think?? give me an example.. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

If you dont want Pauls $1000 then how about Mr Randi's $million Im affraid as to this date there still is not a shred of evidence to support the "paranormal". ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

does anyone have any idea as to the sweet spot for a GLSxf in terms of loading? ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

In light of the recent Shaun Hornbeck case, [sic] Back in February, 2003, “psychics” Sylvia Browne and James Van Praagh were consulted by the parents of missing 11-year-old Shawn Hornbeck – Pam and Craig Akers. That young man just recently turned up – very much alive and well, in rather sharp disagreement with the prognostications of the humbug artists. The Hornbecks had talked February 11th with Sylvia Browne on the Montel Williams television show, where she informed them that Shawn was "no longer with us," which means “dead.” She said his body was in a wooded area “about 20 miles southwest of Richwoods, Missouri.” She said it would be near two large, jagged boulders that “seem out of place in that area,” and she added that the bicycle he was riding when he disappeared, is in a dump "in another state." As a result of Browne’s fruitless guess, intensive searches by hundreds of volunteers were conducted in the general area described by her, but naturally, with no success. Not even “jagged boulders” showed up, let alone the kid – until he was found and returned home on Friday, January 12th. He’d been gone for 1,559 days! But there was more specific drivel from Browne, She said that Shawn had been taken by a "dark-skinned man, he wasn't black – more like Hispanic." She said the kidnaper had long, black hair worn in dreadlocks and was "really tall." He was driving an older model blue sedan, she said, a car with fins like in the late 1950's and early 1960's Chevrolets. All of this drivel was wrong, from the description of the man – he is not Hispanic nor dark-skinned, he’s Caucasian, he’s heavy and not tall – and his car was quite the opposite of Browne’s invented notions: it was a white pickup truck. The Akers also appeared in television segments on “Beyond” with James Van Praagh, another equally accurate “psychic.” He led the search in an entirely different direction, suggesting that a person who worked in a railroad car plant was involved, and that the body “might” be concealed in a railway car. Again, totally wrong, in all respects. This fatuous guess-fest also led to numerous detailed searches, including a railroad yard – all a waste of time and money, at the expense of the frantic parents. So are psychics a solution or a Problem??? ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

Does anyone have any idea as the pack volume of the GLSxf compared to a standard xf2? For example if I have a GLSxf 90 what would it pack like? ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

So you say that the universe didnt come from "nothing" but was made by and architect, your god. So where did your god come from??? And no cheating by saying that he has always existed... That's not cheating. It's logical. Otherwise, there would be infinite regression. So thats your answer, he's just always existed? If god supposedly was always here then it is just as likely the Universe was always here without a god creating it. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

Seems rather harse if you ask me.. so what exactly causes this death? I mean your god is "all powerfull" right? so im sure it would be within in his power to not have you die?? all sounds a bit comic book to me... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

So you say that the universe didnt come from "nothing" but was made by and architect, your god. So where did your god come from??? And no cheating by saying that he has always existed... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

ok for the benefit of myself, could you provide a quick explanation of your "experience"? ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

I recognise that you probably had an "experience", however I would be willing to bet everything I have that it wasn't your god.. The mind is a powerfull thing, there are plenty of people who are convinced they have seen a ghost......... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

Neither have you.............. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

give me an example, one that directly relates to jesus... As I said to Zenister, I will find something specific. But not tonight!!!! I'm dead tired. If I forget, feel free to remind me! Specific, like perhaps the holy grail? or maybe the arc of the covenant? ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

Not yet. He is so holy, you'd die if you looked directly at Him. Although, I've seen His creation. I hear Him speak through his Word in the Bible. I know his nature which is expressed in the Bible. I think the idea that God needs a physical appearance in this regard is irrelevant and very limited in scope. Because the Holy Spirit lives in me. Im sorry Paj you obviously have me confused for a child... I especially liked to bit about if you look at god you DIE what caring chap he is... So anyway as I clearly and accurately stated you have no relationship with your god, apart from the one in you mind… the only reasons you can give is that your understanding of the world around you is so lacking that you have to attribute it to a some sort of god. Im Interested Paj, what is it you are scared of, what is it you need a god for??? are you scared of death, scared that when you die thats it, for ever, are you scared you might go to hell, what is it.. come maybe we can get to the bottom of this... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

give me an example, one that directly relates to jesus... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

I think most often people substitute religion in place of a true relationship with God and that is a problem. Paj old boy, you dont have a relationship with your god, how can you? Have you met him - NO you havent Have you even seen him - NO you havent Have you heard him speak - NO (you will probably claim that you have, so next time perhaps record the converstation so we can all hear the voice of your god) Do you even know what he looks like - NO you dont So how can you have a relatioship? im confused..... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

Without doubt it’s a problem, as well as an insult to human dignity, but anyway….. With out religion, many wars would not have been fought, starting with the biblical wars against the enemies of God, through the crusades to modern troubles in the Middle East. Many of the worlds atrocities would not have been committed, The Inquisition, slavery of Africans, the horrific treatment of native Americans who were considered savages, to name a few. Also imagine what a difference all the billions of dollars that has been wasted in support of many organised religions through the centuries could have been spent on. Imagine no churches or temples, not edifices that glorify some god, but instead we had cures for Cancer and aids, we had a planet that wasn’t being destroyed by the burning of fossil fuels the list can go on. And what about all the insidious prejudice that hides behind religion, prejudice masquerading as evangelistic concern, is pandemic within organised religious groups. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

whilst i was never a pilot, I worked in aviation as a aircraft technican for 6 years on both fixed and rotary wing aircraft, and I also have a degree in aeronautical engineering. So I fully understood all aspects and concepts of flight, did this make me a instant canopy pilot, well no. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

They walked, talked, and lived with Jesus. They saw for themselves the torture, crucifixion, death, burial, resurrection, and ascension. That is the evidence on which they based their beliefs. That is the reason they were willing to die the way they did because they would not deny what they saw or speak about it. That is the reason why some took it to the extreme by requesting to be crucified head down because they didn’t feel worthy to die the way their Lord had died. How do you know, YOU DONT KNOW FACT you simply cant because there is no "evidence. If there was a single shred of evidence what so ever, we would all be believers and all these threads about religion would not exist... All you have is a chemical reaction in your brain that makes you believe that this happened, and all based on a story.... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

what just like every other poster on this forum,,, pleeeease................. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

How are you going to react when you face Jesus? suprised ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

Tell me exactly why you would believe that they were NOT written by who they say they're written by? Why look for conspiracy when there's no practical reason to? Don't fall for that DaVinci Code type stuff. Anyone who believes some of that stuff is just desperate for a reason not to take Christ and His claims seriously! >Erm who do they say there where written by?????? >So you tell me who you think wrote them... Now now-- I asked you first why you DON'T believe they are written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. They have been the accepted authors for centuries. How did you arrive at the conclusion that they aren't? Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. These Gospels, and these alone, tell the story of his life. Now we know absolutely nothing of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, apart from what is said of them in the Gospels. Moreover, the Gospels themselves do not claim to have been written by these men. They are not called "The Gospel of Matthew," or "The Gospel of Mark," but "The Gospel According to Matthew," "The Gospel According to Mark," "The Gospel According to Luke," and "The Gospel According to John." No human being knows who wrote a single line in one of these Gospels. No human being knows when they were written, or where. Biblical scholarship has established the fact that the Gospel of Mark is the oldest of the four. The chief reasons for this conclusion are that this Gospel is shorter, simpler, and more natural, than any of the other three. It is shown that the Gospels of Matthew and Luke were enlarged from the Gospel of Mark. The Gospel of Mark knows nothing of the virgin birth, of the Sermon on the Mount, of the Lord's prayer, or of other important facts of the supposed life of Christ. These features were added by Matthew and Luke. But the Gospel of Mark, as we have it, is not the original Mark. In the same way that the writers of Matthew and Luke copied and enlarged the Gospel of Mark, Mark copied and enlarged an earlier document which is called the "original Mark." This original source perished in the early age of the Church. What it was, who wrote it, where it was written, nobody knows. The Gospel of John is admitted by Christian scholars to be an unhistorical document. They acknowledge that it is not a life of Christ, but an interpretation of him; that it gives us an idealized and spiritualized picture of what Christ is supposed to have been, and that it is largely composed of the speculations of Greek philosophy. The Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke, which are called the "Synoptic Gospels," on the one hand, and the Gospel of John, on the other, stand at opposite extremes of thought. So complete is the difference between the teaching of the first three Gospels and that of the fourth, that every critic admits that if Jesus taught as the Synoptics relate, he could not possibly have taught as John declares. Indeed, in the first three Gospels and in the fourth, we meet with two entirely different Christs. Did I say two? It should be three; for, according to Mark, Christ was a man; according to Matthew and Luke, he was a demigod; while John insists that he was God himself. There is not the smallest fragment of trustworthy evidence to show that any of the Gospels were in existence, in their present form, earlier than a hundred years after the time at which Christ is supposed to have died. Christian scholars, having no reliable means by which to fix the date of their composition, assign them to as early an age as their calculations and their guesses will allow; but the dates thus arrived at are far removed from the age of Christ or his apostles. We are told that Mark was written some time after the year 70, Luke about 110, Matthew about 130, and John not earlier than 140 A.D. Let me impress upon you that these dates are conjectural, and that they are made as early as possible. The first historical mention of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark and Luke, was made by the Christian Father, St. Irenaeus, about the year 190 A.D. The only earlier mention of any of the Gospels was made by Theopholis of Antioch, who mentioned the Gospel of John in 180 A.D. There is absolutely nothing to show that these Gospels -- the only sources of authority as to the existence of Christ -- were written until a hundred and fifty years after the events they pretend to describe. Walter R. Cassels, the learned author of "Supernatural Religion," one of the greatest works ever written on the origins of Christianity, says: "After having exhausted the literature and the testimony bearing on the point, we have not found a single distinct trace of any of those Gospels during the first century and a half after the death of Christ." How can Gospels which were not written until a hundred and fifty years after Christ is supposed to have died, and which do not rest on any trustworthy testimony, have the slightest value as evidence that he really lived? History must be founded upon genuine documents or on living proof. Were a man of to-day to attempt to write the life of a supposed character of a hundred and fifty years ago, without any historical documents upon which to base his narrative, his work would not be a history, it would be a romance. Not a single statement in it could be relied upon. ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

correct, but that doesn't answer my question!!!! Again not really answering the question, yes flying in half brakes will help you fly slower, but if you have had to fly your whole pattern right upto you final turn in brakes then you probably not really on top of what you are doing... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

To suggest that no one knows who the authors of the 4 gospels are is baseless speculation. Tell me exactly why you would believe that they were NOT written by who they say they're written by? Why look for conspiracy when there's no practical reason to? Don't fall for that DaVinci Code type stuff. Anyone who believes some of that stuff is just desperate for a reason not to take Christ and His claims seriously! Erm who do they say there where written by?????? So you tell me who you think wrote them... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

You're clearly not giving this enough thought. Authorship (number of authors, their diversity, where they wrote, length of time it took to jointly author the complete volume), a comparison of thousands of manuscripts (hand copies) spanning hundreds of years which have no serious differences (most of which are copyist mistakes-- punctuation, spelling), and internal cohesiveness (especially considering the first two) are certainly signs of legitimacy. [This is by no means an exhaustive defense of the Bible's legitimacy, but it's a start.) Have you really looked into all of this? Has anyone (besides the Christians here) looked into all this?? I think this dude has, and he has until the end of the month to prove Christ exists, so hopefully we can finally put this whole issue to rest in a few days... ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+

What authorship no one even knows who the original authors of the 4 gospels are ----------------------------------------------------------- --+ There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.. --+