brenthutch

Of course he wasn’t personally responsible for the vaccine anymore than he was personally responsible for COVID.

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People where still dying of COVID when the economy grew at 33% and 9% in the third and fourth quarter respectively. I’m no Trump fan, but he did hand off a growing economy and two vaccines.

Ok, let me rephrase. Why is he easing restrictions when hospitalizations are three times higher than when he put those restrictions in place?

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It’s not cherry picking, it was the state of the economy pre-covid.

Really? If that were the case every country that did not have Trump as their president would be doing just fine. And Biden wouldn’t have said “there is nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the virus in the next several months”

It is hard to create more jobs when everybody already has one. The federal reserve considers five percent to be “full employment” https://www.roberthalf.com/blog/job-market/february-2020-jobs-report-employers-add-273000-jobs

Why is he reopening California when COVID-19 hospitalizations are three times higher than when he closed California? (I believe the number of hospitalizations was the reason he gave to shut the state down)

Why is calling COVID-19 the China virus somehow racist, but it is just fine to say “South African variant” or “UK variant”?

Trump was more laissez faire than any of them and prior the the black swan event of the China virus, unemployment was 3.5%, so the facts are not on your side.

We did have a recovery in the third and fourth quarter but with Biden killing tens of thousands of jobs in his first 48 hours, it doesn’t look like the recovery will continue.

Didn’t we do this during the Obama administration?

How so? You guys say that government subsidies prop up fossil fuel companies. I say without those subsidies, those companies will still exist and just pass those costs on to the consumer. I guess we will find out in the next few months. BTW I say harsh regulations on fossil fuel producers will cost jobs. Biden says it will create millions. Again we will find out in the next few months.

How many times do I have to say I was wrong about Tesla? Although it’s valuation is far beyond any traditional measure, it continues to rise. With the new administration the trough will be filled again with taxpayer dollars, so the sky is the limit.

What part of “you are right, I concede the point” is beyond your comprehension? Why don’t you ever engage? It seems that all you contribute is cut-and-paste and snark? “Meanwhile in the Arctic,” and “Comprehension problems?” is all you do. Of course if that is all you have, then, that is all you have. As Dirty Harry said, “A man has got to know his limitations,” and clearly you are aware of yours.

How many of Trump’s executive orders simply undid Obama’s?

You are right, I concede the point. I conflated ignoring the Paris Climate Accord with not being in it.

I’ll take that as a yes. BTW Biden just signed an executive order eliminating oil and gas subsidies. If you are right (that oil and gas are propped up w government money)we should see the swift collapse of them. If I am right we will se an increase in utility bills and gas prices.

What does that have to do with debunked Heritage Foundation propaganda? Did those companies go bankrupt or not? Did those companies receive government grants and loan guarantees or not? If a fracking enterprise looses money the investors take the hit, when green energy companies loose money the taxpayer takes the hit, big difference.

That is why I said most. They both get subsidized and in return contribute to their political benefactors, the difference is we get something for our money with fossil fuels.

Most of those are available to green enterprises as well and fall under standard accounting principles. (Ivanpah didn’t even pay for the land it uses)

Are you saying that Solyndra didn’t go bankrupt, receive $500 million in loan guarantees or both. What part that has been debunked?

You are missing a column, the one with government grants and loan guarantees.

It’s fine for visionaries to gamble with their own assets, it’s not ok for them to gamble with the assets of others. We are about to see another wave of “green” boondoggles just like we did during the Obama administration. Here is a short list of “green energy” companies and the amount of taxpayer money lost. Evergreen Solar ($25 million)* SpectraWatt ($500,000)* Solyndra ($535 million)* Beacon Power ($43 million)* Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million) SunPower ($1.2 billion) First Solar ($1.46 billion) Babcock and Brown ($178 million) EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)* Amonix ($5.9 million) Fisker Automotive ($529 million) Abound Solar ($400 million)* A123 Systems ($279 million)* Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)* Johnson Controls ($299 million) Brightsource ($1.6 billion) ECOtality ($126.2 million) Raser Technologies ($33 million)* Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)* Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)* Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)* Range Fuels ($80 million)* Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)* Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)* Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)* GreenVolts ($500,000) Vestas ($50 million) LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million) Nordic Windpower ($16 million)* Navistar ($39 million) Satcon ($3 million)* Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)* Mascoma Corp. ($100 million) * denotes bankruptcy as of 2012, many more have gone tits up since. The case of Fisker is particularly interesting... https://investigativeresearchcenter.org/hunter-biden-listed-as-fisker-creditor-raising-questions-about-green-energy-boondoggle/ ”Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”