mjosparky

I am not trying to be a smart ass. The fact is that because you say something is regulation does not make it so. What does this have to do with pack? It starts out with CFR’s, Code of Federal Regulations. These are divided in to Titles, 1 through 50. These Titles are broken down into Volumes, Chapters and Parts. Title 14, Chapter I, subchapter D, Part 65 “CERTIFICATION: AIRMEN OTHER THAN FLIGHT CREWMEMBERS” and Title 14, Chapter I, subchapter F, Part 105 “PARACHUTE OPERATIONS” are the areas that cover rigging and skydiving. Advisory Circulars AC-105-2C and AC-65-5B are documents used to expand on and aid in interpreting the parts. I have read the above documents cover to cover and I am not able to find and reference to your position on “Manufactures Instructions” while inspecting and packing an approved parachute. What regulation mentions "associated documents"? Are you just making this shit up or can you provide a FAA Part to support it? My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

From AS8015-B 4.3.1 Primary Actuation Device/Ripcord Test: The ripcord, including all joints, shall not fail under a straight tension test load of 300 lbf (1337.7 N) applied for not less than 3 s. The reserve static line, if used, must not fail under a straight tension test load of 600 lbf (2667.3 N) for not less than 3 s. If the ripcord is to be static line operated, the test shall be 600 lbf (2667.3 N) for not less than 3 s. The pins, if used, shall not yield under a 8 lbf (35.6 N) load applied to the cable (or equivalent) perpendicular to the axis of the pin, for not less than 3 s. The pin shall be supported for 0.5 in (12.7 mm) maximum at the end farthest from the cable attachment. The pin(s) shall be deemed to have passed this test if the primary actuation device/ripcord which it (they) is (are) a part of then passes the tests specified in 4.3.2.4. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

No one is asking you to educate them. Thank you. All I asked was can you refer me to any FAR Part that supports your position. I don't think you can and I am going to leave it at that. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Sounds like you have a plan. Good luck and remember to enjoy.

Jim, There was only one person close enough to the problem to make an informed decision on what to do. I am not sure what I would do, I wasn’t there. Sounds to me like you kept yourself updated as to altitude and canopy condition and walked away. That puts you way ahead of some that were landing a canopy in perfect condition. Sparky Effective packing is all about the little detail.

He might just not be to lazy to use spellcheck. Not taking the time or effort to do something right says a lot about a person. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

You know exactly what I meant. He is not going to learn the skills needed to fly a wing suit doing H&P's. You may think you are improving your freefall skills by building numbers with low level jumps but I doubt it. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

I saw where you have ordered all new gear. It is time to start leaning how it works. Everything comes with a manual. Read them all and ask questions. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

How many have you put on a wingsuit? I think you might be making an issure where none exists. If a legstrap B-12 is going to wear out your suit, maybe you should be looking at the suit design, Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

You seem to have avoided my question. I repeat. If you know of any FAA reg. that says a certificated rigger has to have the Manufactures Instructions in hand to pack, please post them. I can find nothing in Part 65 or Part 105, the 2 parts that cover riggers and packing. It would help if you could support your position with documentation. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

§ 105.3____ Definitions. For the purposes of this part— Approved parachute means a parachute manufactured under a type certificate or a Technical Standard Order (C–23 series), or a personnel-carrying U.S. military parachute (other than a high altitude, high speed, or ejection type) identified by a Navy Air Facility, an Army Air Field, and Air Force-Navy drawing number, an Army Air Field order number, or any other military designation or specification number. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Just another shity day in paradise. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Was this directed to me or were just doing it out of habit?

Does that mean like in never?

Part 65.115 is not about what is required to pack an approved parachute; it is about what is required to that the practical exam for a riggers certificate. 65.115 Senior parachute rigger certificate: Experience, knowledge, and skill requirements. When you say “FAA/DPRE handbook”, I take it you mean FAA-S-8081-25, Practical Test Standards. “Each Area Of Operation/Task” lists a required Reference. That reference is for use by the Examiner, not the applicant. That might be why they are required to provide them. Required Material for the Practical Test The examiner is responsible for supplying all equipment and materials to support the test. The REFERENCE identifies the publication(s) that describe(s) the TASK. Descriptions of TASKs are not included in these standards because this information can be found in references listed for each TASK. Publications other than those listed may be used as references if their content conveys substantially the same meaning as the referenced publications. References listed in this practical test book include the current revisions of the following publications. 14 CFR part 1 Definitions and Abbreviations 14 CFR part 21 Certification Procedures for Products and Parts 14 CFR part 43 Maintenance, Preventive Maintenance Rebuilding, and Alteration 14 CFR part 65 Certification: Airmen Other Than Flight Crewmembers 14 CFR part 91 Air Traffic and General Operating Rules 14 CFR part 105 Parachute Jumping AC 105-2 Sport Parachute Jumping TSO-C23b Parachutes TSO-C23c Personnel Parachute Assemblies TS 108 Parachute Industry Association Publication AS 8015B Aerospace Standard NAS 804 National Aircraft Standards Specification PPM Poynter Parachute Manual Vol. I, 3rd edition PPM VOL. II Poynter Parachute Manual Vol. II The following question is from the current Rigging test bank of questions. 27. A44 RIG A certificated parachute rigger shall not exercise the privilege of his/her certificate and type ratings unless he/she understands the current manufacturer's instructions for the operation involved and A) has satisfactorily packed not less than 20 parachutes within the preceding 90 days. B) has performed duties under his/her certificate for at least 90 days within the preceding 12 months. C) has performed duties under his/her certificate within the preceding 90 days. If you know of any FAA reg. that says a certificated rigger has to have the Manufactures Instructions in hand to pack, please post them. I can find nothing in Part 65 or Part 105, the 2 parts that cover riggers and packing. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Why not? Maybe my statement was to strong, but I would we afraid of much faster wear. I would like to see wingsuit after a hundred jumps with B-12. Faster wear? To what? I have jumped a wing suit with my B-12 and encountered no problems at all. This is how "urban myths" get started. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Read my post, I didn't say anything about accuracy or CC. I said "flying". Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Its not just me. Look around the plane next time you go up, you will see lots of folks giving your gear the once over. No one wants to see someone hurt or worse. bozo Jim, Good call and a good attitude. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Another point. It is rude to stand up on a crowded airplane and finish putting on you rig and booties. It shows that the jumper has no concern to other people. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

If it is not "on the books" it is not a law. (regulation) The FAA is not going to take you to court if it does not have Part violation to point to. If you are referring to a civil court, all bets are off. If you are not willing to spend the time reading the FAR’s maybe you should refrain from making decisions on what they say or don’t say. You do not need to have a copy of the manufacture’s instructions to pack an “approved” parachute or harness/container. It is not a good idea to do so and no one is saying it is. But if you are going to quote regulations, quote them correctly. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Why not? Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

We know who she is. You are the one that has a blank profile and is coming out of left field. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

A few years ago I put about 25 to 30 jumps on a 245 Startrac and did not like it all. It has the same sq. ft. as the Sharpchuter but a lower aspect ratio. It seemed (probably just me) to have inconstant reaction to control inputs while in deep brakes and took longer to come out of a sink. My newest Sharpchuter is the first one that gave me problems with hard openings. With about 60/70 jumps on it, it opened so hard it blew 6 lines and I cutaway. Talked to Red, he said ship it in and they made a mod to it. (see picture – top skin extended down into 3 center cells) It now opens like a dream. Turn around time was less then 2 weeks. Sparky My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

Get a bigger son. Problem solved.

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