Ron

I would have to venture that they would kill him anyway, and they would not give a shit what people thought.. OH yeah and then of course you would support him for doing it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, the sences in my mind are from: The book "Black Hawk Down" which I had to read as instructed by my 1SG when I was active duty, and then made MY troopers read. News casts we watched while we recreated the entire mission from start to finish to find the errors so we could learn from it. TALKING to friends of mine THAT WERE THERE. One of my friends was in the lost convoy and had an RPG bounce off the hood of his Humvee. Plus I was 20 when it happened, so I remember the news footage. You might find it interesting to know I do have the movie (Which BTW they were filming at a base I was stationed at one time), but never saw it until I was out... So I didn't get my ideas from the movie. Several Americasn have been butchered when they were un armed....Burg comes to my mind. Nope I was not there, but I have more faith in the US than you do...You think we are all abunch of cold blooded killers, not a group of guys doing a job...a Job I might add that I bet none really wanted to do. Huh, we are at WAR with Iraq...IRAQ. Also Iraqi's are kiling people with suicide bombs... Try to stay with us here, I know you would love to defend them , and make us look bad, but you are going to have to try harder. Unless they make their mind up using facts...you only seem to use the facts that support your position. I value human life until they try to kill me....Then I still value it, but there is a job to do....Im not going to let people kill me just to value life. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Im not going to criticise these helicopter crew members who: Were there at WAR. Had been on mission to prevent an ARMS deal. Saw what they though to be a WEAPON that could have killed them being held by a guy that was suspected of being an ARMS dealer in a WAR zone. That had taken the time to get permission to engauge from their commander to shoot at a guy that held a WEAPON that could KILL them that was suspected of being involved in an ARMS deal in a WAR zone. Get the gist? But due to some nutbag putting it together like a "pop up video" with some cool music and some neat (And very wrong) pop ups...Suddenly people think that they are military analysts. So yeah, I will talk about a persons policies...But I will try like hell not to talk out of my ASS when I do it...And when I do you are sure to jump on me for it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

what parts not true? sKerry fell down and yelled at a SS agent for doing it. Then sKerry makes a joke about Bush falling off a bike TWO weeks after he fell off a bike. Good God. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ya know what....My real Mom was a lazy alcoholic..To this day she does not have a job. Oh lookie, I'm a productive memeber of the population. I know maybe better than you what those 5 kids are going to face. If they are willing to work, I am willing to help them...Oh yeah I also help those who CANT help themselves...Go search "March of Dimes" posts by me. But if you could help youself and dont' go get fucked. Like I said go search March of Dimes,....Oh yeah I also give to the United Way, and the Juvenile Diabetes Association. What I don't do is give away my hard earned money to people who are to lazy to get a job. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I criticised Clinton...Not his policies....Clinton was a morally corrupt person, that lied under oath. Some of his policies were good. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Then what exactly the fuck is your beef? If the helicopter crashed we would have seen images just like "Black Hawk Down"...And enemy is an enemy till they GIVE up. Where you there? Were you underfire? Armchair Ranger is easy and fun when you are safe behind a computer. Last I checked it was not cool to strap a bomb on yourself and kill INNOCENT people (Which BTW these folks were not innocent)...I also always thought that you were supposed to hop on jets and fly places, not use them to blow up buildings....Huh, I guess its never that simple is it? The only mistake was those jackasses trying to do a weapons deal. What a load of Bullshit. Anyone that raises a weapon against me, my family, my friends or my country IS an enemy in my eyes. Don't start nothing, won't be nothing. You clearly don't have any loyalty to anything since you ran from your homeland and all you do is bitch about this one....Are you ever going to be happy anywhere? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Feeling bad for someone that is not willing to do jack shit for themselves is a sign of weakness. Its something I see the left have in abundance. Lets give them a hand..Oh I know she is a crack head (A choice) with 5 illegitamate kids (A choice) living on welfare (Go get a fucking job). Now you show me a person who is TRYING, And i'll haelp, but you lefties like to give the store away. Bless your bleading harts. And I consider laziness to be evil...So why would I help a lazy person? I work 40 hrs a week, go to school full time, and work at the DZ on weekends. I'll be damned if I am going to willing give my hard eraned money to some crack head on welfare. People today have no personal responsability. You want it? go work for it, don't beg or steal for it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Less dead Americans, more dead enemy. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

At least Bush didn't blame it on a Secret Service Agent like sKerry did when he fell skiing. Lefties like to blame others don't they? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

thats why it was: ***You are more free here than just about anywhere else in the world. Quote America is not perfect. But it is better than most. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Oh crap, there goes the neighborhood I'm not so sure we can let you play, I mean 150 years ago your great, great grandad was not nice to mine. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

LMAO Nope your a lefty-American "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Then feel free to step out of it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

So? How is that MY fault? You think I should be punished because some white guy unrelated to me bought and sold slaves? And never forget that some African tribes sold slaves from other tribes. I don't agree with slavery, but it was also so far in the nations past that I never had anything to do with it. And the simple fact is...The people who were born here due to the wrongs that were brought on their Great, Great, Great Grandfaters, are MUCH better off than if they were born in Africa. They have a much better chance than some guy in Nigeria to have a good life. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Maybe Blacks should stop playing the victim? It goes both ways John. My Family never owned slaves, my Great, Great Uncle died fighting the South. Why should I be punished? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

As long as you contiune to try and waive historical data that HAD NO DIRECT EFFECT on you, and contiune to use that to try and explain away a cultures lack of drive and use it as a reason for your current day failures...You get no respect from me. You are gonna get the same answer when you say that BS as the guy that claims he is downtrodden since his Mommy didn't show him enough love... GET OVER IT. The Chinese had to face bigotry, the Irish, the Germans, the Japanese, the Native Americans, the Hispanic, Blacks, Catholics, Jews and now the Islamic people. Hell the United States was CREATED to get away from bigotry...Does England owe me for oppressing my Great, Great Grandfather? Nope. I'm glad he left England, and you should be glad you were born in America. You are more free here than just about anywhere else in the world. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

we already have them everytime a black kid does something stupid and gets hurt... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

See you don't want fair, you want revenge... Revenge for things I might add never happend to you, and were not done by me. You think you would be happier if your familiy was still in Africa????? Your lucky to be here even if your Great, Great, Great Grandfather was wronged...YOU are better off for it. Just like I am better off since my Great, Great Grandfather left England. Don't be pissed at me for something some white guy did 300 years ago, and I will not be mad at you for the black guy that stole my bike when I was 13. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

We already have EO. We don't need AA. AA is just reverse racism. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I never said they have oppressed white people... I said they are Racist, and they are. Explain to me how I have oppressed Blacks. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ladies and gentalmen...We have a winner! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

OK still older than me, you, my Dad, and his Dad. Ok still older than me. Did I drive the busses? Did I make the policies? Nope. Ther are no segregated, but they are not bussed out of area either...Memphis had a stupid idea years ago where a % of blacks and whites needed to be at each school. so they busses some kids into the city while they bussed others out. What a stupid idea that was.... And I don't think one form of racism is better than another. There is a big difference here. Would you punish his Son for what his Dad did? How about his Grandson? My response is "OK, now we will treat you EQUAL, don't expect to be treated SPECIAL" "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Why?have you ever BEEN to Africa? Can you name me five countries IN Africa? I know several people that get their knickers in a knot over wanting to be called "African American" that can't. Are you one of them? Good God who gives a shit! It is that attitude that just increases the racial issues. Why not just be happy being an American named Chris? I don't get upset if people don't call me English- Irish-Scottish-Germain-Native American- American. When ask what I am I just say American. If they push I'm white (and other than Michael Jackson NOONE is white, I'm like a nice tan arms and legs with a ghost white chest). You demand to be called "African American"???? Fine, I'll call you Desmond von sky puppy esquire the third if it will make you happy. But you are still just black like I am just white. I think you are being disrespectful to America to demand that we add "African" to it. Like I said most don't know squat about Africa. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334