Ron

And so starts the Bush bashing.....Why am I not surprized Kallend did it? BTW Clinton got a hummer in the oval office, and thats one of the reasons OBL hates us. Oh yeah, and Hitler....Don't know where that ties in, but maybe it will kill this thread? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Get a better job. Thats the wonderful thing about the US..You don't like what you want you are free to move on. Seems to me that for most people its a good product then. People don't tend to use crap stuff just for fun. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Continue my life just like I do everyother day I don't spend at the DZ. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

This debate was not about legal representation...It was about should a mentally unstabe person who kills be executed...You want to talk about how unfair the legal system is...Fine, but not here. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Im sure it is...The NAZI's had amazing knowledge.... My issue was with the Bush/Hitler BS. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You took a man that was known for years to be unstable and let him run around...Then when he was in a hospital, you let him out on a day pass while he was saying he wanted to kill people... Uh...You think thats smart? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And what do you know of my limited perspective? I get 5. How about the fact that more people try to move here than anywhere else? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

That hitler and Bush are the same. You already are showing it. Then why would you back that picture...simple..you don't know better. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And I think that if there is no way to teach them that killing is wrong, and they want to do it again...I say kill them if they have killed others. They have proven that they will kill, and they don't see whay they should not, that means they will kill again. Also, the prison should be to rehabilitate if possible...In the case of a prisoner with a mental disability (One that makes it so they can't see the problem with killing) they also will not understand why they are in prison....So one could agrue that you should not even have them in jail... They are not learning anything. Keeping the public safe from them is the #1 concern...If they are murderers...Executing them makes the public safer. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

You clearly know nothing about Hitler WW2 or GWB if you think that way. You are showing your ass with stupid posts like that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And that says alot about your country as well. Hey, we let a dangerous man who was sying he wanted to kill someone out to walk around for the day. Great legal system you have there. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

The difference between your two year old, and this guy is this: You will be able to explain to the two year old WHY you can't just shoot people. And unless the two year old has mental issues, then that two year old will understand and not be a future danger to the population. If the two year old can not learn, and would continue to pose a danger...Then yes, kill the two year old. But It would take several years to determine if that two year old COULD learn. This guy was 50...Its pretty clear he was never going to learn that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I'd add it's about 1 kilometer wide in most places. Both sides have permanant positions dug in and are ready for war at a moments notice. Time in Korea at the DMZ is counted down every day like time left itll you get released from jail. You serve about a year there. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Simple look at such things as GNP. Number of vehicals per thousand persons. Number of TV's per person. Average national income. There are PLENTY of ways to look at it without living all over the world. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Its called intent. This guy shot 4 people...It wa not an accident. If you let him, he would have shot 2 more. Kill them. they will never be safe for release. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Why would you get rid of your planes? I just bought a 1/3 scale Pitts. With a big ol gas engine... Flew it today for its maiden. SWEET!!!! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thats cool...did Talbert tell you that? And hows the project going? Find an 8th? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Most times it IS lack of will. Some are not willing to do what it takes. "I dont' want to go back to school" "I don't wan't to work weekends" Some have problems that prevent them from doing anything. Alcoholics come to mind. Thats splitting hairs...Most would consider a home, kids and not starving to be good. Me, I want more than I have now...So I am willing to WORK for it...INVEST for it. (Sacrificing my pleasure NOW for the future) Thats something most will not do. Like it or not...Look around which countries on this planet have the best standard of living? Your question is answered "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

PM me your address. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Tim MacGraw is a country singer, he is married to Faith Hill (Lucky Bastard). The song is very new....I just heard the "World Release" on a radio station in TX. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Tim Macgraw... He mentions skydiving several times. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

If you would like, I will send you two shirts..I have one from the MOD, and one from FedEx you can have... They are both XL's. I also got the blanket...But I gave that away already. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

It means if you don't like the US...That planes take people both ways. Yep....Lets have a little "Goverment/Economics for Dummies" here: Capitalism: A system that rewards hard work by giving everyone a theoretical equal footing. Yes if the person is born with a silver spoon in thier mouth they a better shot. And the poor family has to work harder..But in this plan the poor person can become rich, and the rich can become poor. Its a system that gives the spoils to the person that works hardest, and punishes the lazy and incompetent. Communism: A system that in theory allows everyone exactly the same. This system is flawed by design. It encourages laziness by not making people work hard since they will not get anything extra for that work. Just by doing the "status quo" you will get the same as the next guy. This plan never works and those that can, do swindle a way to get more. Socialism: A mixture of both. The idea was that the important things are controlled by the government and that everyone has the same basic minimum chance...A decent theory in plan, but never in practice. For this to work, the performers have to be punished for doing so well, to allow the under achievers a chance. At many times in my life my family was broke. My parents went bankrupt. My Dad sold cars, and my step Mom worked as a secratary...All three kids were "latch key" kids. When I moved out on my own when I was 18 I was working two jobs and was so poor that sometimes my only meals for days were p-nut butter sandwhiches (Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner for days) and other days there was no food. I went from 5'6" 150 pounds to 130 pounds. At one point in my life I had not eaten for two days, and the Church I was going to had sent me a basket of food..That food I managed to make last two weeks. You ever eaten HALF an apple for a meal? This was a MAJOR turrning point in my life. Now my parents do much better. they are not rich but they do better than most. It was hard work and effort that put them there... Me? Well I kept working hard focusing myself, and I got promotion after promotion. I went from making below poverty level in 1992 to doing quite well 13 years later. I now have no debt, a nice savings, and a healthy 401K going. I also have every toy I want. I am going to college by me spending 3 years in the US Army and getting the GI Bill. BTW while I was in the Army I was making 11,000 to 16,800 a year. I took the oportunities that were there...I never sat back and asked for handouts...Only once in my life did I EVER take one..And that was that basket of food the Church sent me. After that low, I decided two things...I would never be in that place again, and I would help others when I can. Guess that blew your theory all to hell huh? I know Capitalism works...I used it. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Almost.... FX had the record with a 37 at the 99 Nationals...for like a day. Airspeed got it on the same round with a 39. Frances 42 was not a practice jump....It was a competition jump, but there were not enough FAI judges there to call it a record. When they did try to get the FAI to certify it there were some problems. I have been told they saw a bust. Which would make it a 40...However the offical meet score has already been posted as a 42. So you can't take the "offical" score off the board, and the FAI saw a bust...so they are having some problems certifying it. I don't think that Majics jump could be official since I don't think there was even one FAI judge present. Confused? Good, so am I. BTW FX has the record for an Unofficial jump with like a 58 I think. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Thanks... I still may not be going. I became Diabetic while I was Active (I have no idea how that happened). I ended up finishing my active time instead of getting a Medical Discharge just by the fact that my separation date was a few mths away by the time they finally realized I was Diabetic. They wanted to hold me in just to Med me...Thats right, they wanted to make me stay in longer so they could kick me out for being a Diabetic. I didn't want to be a non-deployable broke dick just taking oxygen, a billet, and a space on a company roster. So I waived my future benefits to being medically retired in favor of just finishing my time honorably..... Anyway, I am now in the process of a Medical Discharge from the Reserves. It seems that in the Army that the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing... So in this case I have one letter telling me I'm getting called up, and another saying I should get my Medical Discharge anyday. Either way it does not matter. What is, is. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334