Ron

Did you read the report? Now I am not smart, or John Wane...But if they kill the pilots...and others...They will kill more and are up to no good. Seems like they knew before all hell broke loose. Read this part again: Do your homework next time. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Sorry not targeted at you. But it seems unless you are gay you had better not try to learn or ask questions...god forbid you have an opinion. Seems if you don't agree with them about everything you are out to get them. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

No, he is not. They could have rushed the cabin..If all of the Passengers had done that the towers might not have fallen. If the Terrorists knew that folks would not just have sat there they would have had to bring more than a few box cutters. The people on Flight 93 were heros that while they may have died...no one else had to. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

OH, sorry...I thought I just communicated really badly..(I have been known to do that) I am really looking forward to meeting Rehm...And kicking his ass There is beer on the line, and that makes this serious shit.

Nah, I got the drill...You'll love it. Its the mack daddy of all drills. 90-180-270-360-540, Comp-comp, Buddies-Other Buddies, Vertical hop to star, Slide-180. You'll love it! "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

That camp is already being coached... Chromy, Steve Hamilton, and I are the three coaches. Rehmwa is my victum...... I never turn down coaching...But this camp I am the coach, not the coachie. In this camp we have three coaches and 12 hours of time....I suspect the coaches will fly about 4 hours a piece as we will be doing two ways and maybe some two on two. Plus, Rehm and I have a bet "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

John Rich was a Marine....If memory serves correctly, he has been in combat. Thats why I like the idea of training before being allowed to carry. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well for once we agree. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Ask Dave about that...He might disagree. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Actually Bill said it....So you are correct. Keith said that women and gay men have the same risk....One that has been debated. Nice insult! And I love how Bill does nothing about it... "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I agree 100% If you are armed you owe it to everyone to make sure nothing happens...If that means doing nothing, then do nothing. But if given the choice of doing nothing while someone innocent dies...I think we both agree that you should not sit and watch that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Or better. This bad guy could have killed the cashier, and that cashiers baby could have been the person that would one day have become President and ended hunger, world peace, and made Pizza not fattening Thats the problem with hypotheticals.....And the problem with choices in the real world...You don't know and can't guess. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How about anyone on Welfare (Below poverty) gets issued a Government debit card...These cards have two functions: 1. They are used to buy the things that are needed to survive (Food Stamps). And can only be used to buy these items. 2. Easy way to decide if tax is due. It will prevent fraud. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

How does Kash 'n' Karry know who is below the poverty line? ID cards? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

did you ever see me say to only target gays? Nope in fact I mentioned Black Women in several of my posts. HIV is not something that is gonna go away. It makes sense to target the group it is going to do the most damage to first. I doin't see how people can see me saying, "lets educate to gays about this disease" as "Gay bashing". Some people kill me. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Where did I say that? In fact if you took the time to READ a post or two you will see I asked a QUESTION. Now you seem to be a smart guy and it should not be to hard for you to realize that whena guy asks a QUESTION he is asking for information about something he does not know. That is if you can get past your hatred of me and actually read a post once in a while. See? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

My response was to storm about wmw999 making a blanket statment about a type of people. I would think you would understand that. I could be wrong. You seem to think I hate you...and hate gays in general. See but the problem is when I ask a question you prefer to make insults. Nice. See you skipped this whole part of my post: Even the part where I ASKED a question and even THANKED you...You prefered to continue to think I hate you and all gays and jumped in on a slam about someone making a blanket statement about a group...Again which I think you would understand and even defend. But no since its me. even though when you got married I said Congrats: But feel free to continue to think I just hate gays and you in particular...I make it a habit to congratulate people I hate about things I don't agree with. See I can disagree about something and still be happy for people. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Come on...you know that if you expect someone to be held accountable for their actions you can not possibly be able to understand anyone else. Unless you are gay, there is no way you can look at data and make any kind of observation about the gay lifestyle. Only Liberals can do that kind of stuff. They are experts on conservatives with out being one. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

My .357 was going out on its own looking for a fight. I was lucky I saw it before it got out the door and killed someone. Some people still think that guns kill people. Mine just lay there and do nothing...Not once have I been able to catch it moving on its own, much less kill someone....But I keep my eye on it just in case it is lulling me into a false sense of security. It was a joke...I am sure your English is much better than my German....I can only call people "Pig-Dogs" and order a few german beers. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yeah, just last night I had to tackle my .357. It was drunk, and running all by itself towards the door to go out looking for trouble. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Yes, but still only two sources for the bravery of Ron Martell who heard the shots, had a weapon and a CWP but instead of shooting at Arroyo, led police to him. So much for the "If you have a gun, you will use it crowd". "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Which slot are you? "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

Well I am asking you... True, but I bet you know more about the gay community than I do. You have a better idea than I do...I bet that you were not always married. I however have never been gay. That would be why I asked you. However there are facts that I don't need to be gay to understand...Gays are a smaller segment of the population then hetero's but have a higher rate and raw number of HIV cases. Add in that several folks seem to say that the gay community is quite aware of the problem, yet the smaller group still has the higher number of cases... So I can only suggest that: A. They are not informed, or aware of the truth. B. It is a totaly non-effective attempt. I asked you since you had a much higher chance of knowing than me, and *most* times are not emotional and are logical. If you do know, please educate...If you don't thanks anyway. If you will see I am SUPPORTING more education to reduce the effect of HIV on the gay community. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

I'm not, a jury is or a judge based on the system in place. For ever study that shows its more effecient, there is one that says it is not. You seem to be ignoring that. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

And last time we went through this I posted Government studies that showed keeping them alive was more expensive. Your studies are not worth more than mine. Claiming only your studies are "good" is silly, and not professional. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334