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That sux. We'll have to come up with plan B-r-a-v-o Arrive Safely John

Family portait = all of us in a BIG picture, wearing our Dropzone.com t-shirts, for posterity before the weekend is over. Arrive Safely John

2763 Jumps 728 Posts 1.0 Posts Per Day 18.5 Years In Sport 70 Static Line Jumps Survey Says??? Arrive Safely John

Family Portrait? Arrive Safely John

I'm on my fourth one. I never leave home without it! Arrive Safely John

At Symposium 2001, I asked Bill Morrisey (Strong - at the time), TK Donle (Relative Workshop - at the time) and Bill Booth (nuff said) about that exit. Each of them said it was an easy way to exit a ramp aircraft, and it was recommended by all of them. One caveat thrown in by Bill Morrissey was " . . . if you have a rig that stays closed." Obviously a premature main container opening would be a disaster in the middle of this exit. This is not intended to be argumentative; everyone has their personal preferences for exits, etc. That exit, "370 backloop," cheetah flip," or "froot loop" is my favorite ramp exit. I have done it from Casa 212s, C-130s and C-23b Sherpas. I discontinued that exit from the Sherpa - because of my size and having to crouch on the edge of the ramp, I have difficulty getting out far enough to be comfortably clear of the trail edge of the floor. Also important to note is that I had done a bazillion solo 370 backloop exits prior to trying it with a tandem, and the student I tried it with the first time had made two tandems with me earlier in the day. For me, it's about control. I can do a controlled Superman, poised, or 370 backloop exit from a ramp. I don't do front loops out of anything, or 370 backloops out of side dorr aircraft, because (IMHO) they are too difficult to control. Back to Symposium 2001: Bill Morrisey commented that they discourage front loops because they are too difficult to recover. Thanks for your great posts, Rob . . . I learn a lot from you. Arrive Safely John

It's the opposite of "Field Of Dreams." IF YOU COME. WE'LL BUILD IT!

Thanks. I like you already! As far as the record goes, we obviously have at least a full otter load. A note for those of you who say "my belly-flying skills suck" (humble humble, etc. etc.) and don't think you can be a part of a record: Please leave that at home. Our organizer(s) will of course plan a safe dive, into which experience level will play some part. Otherwise it's not a political deal. Bring your breakthrough attitude, have fun like the rest of us, and you'll be in there! Arrive Safely John

Pammi . . . I PM'd you my phone number. Call me about your kids!! John Arrive Safely John

I second that. The weather, of course, will be perfect . . . we are bringing in our own Sunshine (pun intended). Arrive Safely John

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OK . . . my personal and professional schedules are very erratic right now, but my plan is: -Friday night beers at Aviator's with Monica in tow. -Saturday skydiving with y'all. I will hang around for a quick beer then I gotta head home. -Skydiving part of Sunday afternoon. More players: there are some lads at work that are semi-regulars at Raeford. Some are registered here but have not posted. I will fix that tomorrow. Is there anybody in the list above that can shoot good video AND stills of our inevitable record-breaker?? Arrive Safely John

Damn! And I thought I had seen it all. I've got to go now . . . I'm heading outside to look for flying pigs! Arrive Safely John

I don't know anything about the politics invilved in this decision, and I choose not to engage in that part of this thread. I will say that I did two demo jump there in 1992 and I'm sorry to see it go. It was a thrill exiting way out over Lake Michigan, with Soldier Field in sight during free fall. I was told by a local that Meigs was built on the rubble from the Chicago fire that happened in the mid-1800's. It was always a special jump memory for me. Arrive Safely John

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Hey Liz! Glad to see you here! Soooo . . . don't make it a temporary thing. Nice nick, BTW. Arrive Safely John

That would be XXL. Arrive Safely John

My helmet full of sweet tarts . . . that's enough, dont' you think?? Arrive Safely John

Yes. There are quite a number of us Military Free Fallers here. Why do you ask?? Arrive Safely John

When I was in college it was a "Cruddy Buddy." One would gain access through devious means (no B&E) to someone's room, normally of the opposite sex, and steal all of their underwear. You would then bang on random doors all over the dorm, announce you are on a Cruddy Buddy mission, and leave a pair of the bloomers in the strangers' care. You would then deliver a note to the one whose drawers you pilfered, along with a list of room numbers, and sign it "Cruddy Buddy." The owner would then have two choices: 1) buy all new underwear, or 2) bang on all the doors and retrieve their skivvies. Poor college students always chose option #2. Cruddy Buddy's happened all the time; we seemed to always have a pair of undies hanging from our TV antenna. Arrive Safely John

Welcome, mate! Arrive Safely John

In my limited experience with LOs I have never paid one. I was under the impression that the DZO paid the LOs for their services to keep the customers jumping. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem kicking in a buck for a talented organizer that puts together fun, interesting skydives. Arrive Safely John

Glad you're still with us, Dave . . . live and learn - literally! I acknowledge you for sharing your experience here in the forums so others might learn from it. Arrive Safely John

I've gotta give Aviator's another atta-boy. Great food and good people. The beer is the coldest for miles around! Arrive Safely John