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Hehehe! To see what it's supposed to look like, read this post. Change your language and take a look at the rules. You can always change it back... Safe swoops Sangiro

Heya all, I've added a Russian language Forum to Dropzone.com. You can see a translation of the Dropzone.com Rules here. Also for our Russian friends: To ensure that Dropzone.com uses the right character encoding go to: Edit Profile --> User Profile. Just under ZIP code select Russian as your language. This will encrypt the Forums with the windows-1251 character set. All English forums should display correctly but you may see some issues with special characters in French, German or Spanish. Ïîêà âñå. Ïîêà! Safe swoops Sangiro

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Ïîæàëóéñòà, îáðàòèòå îñîáîå âíèìàíèå íà îãðàíè÷åíèÿ, êîòîðûå êàñàþòñÿ ðàçìåùåíèÿ ðåêëàìû, è òîãî, ñêîëüêî ðàç âû ìîæåòå ðàçìåùàòü îäíî è òî æå ñîîáùåíèå. Îñíîâíûå ïðàâèëà ôîðóìîì: â ôîðóìàõ ÍÅÒ ëè÷íûõ îñêîðáëåíèé â ôîðóìàõ ÍÅÒ øóòîê èëè äàæå íàìåêîâ íà ïåäîôåëèþ â ôîðóìàõ ÍÅÒ ðåêëàìû ïèøèòå â íóæíîì ôîðóìå, è íå îòêëîíÿéòåñü îò òåìûÎáúÿñíåíèÿ è ïîäðîáíîñòè ýòèõ ïðàâèë ìîæíî íàéòè íèæå. Äîáðî ïîæàëîâàòü íà ôîðóìû Dropzone.com! Ìû èñêðåííå âåðèì, ÷òî ýòî ñàìûé ëó÷øèé ïàðàøþòíûé ðåñóðñ îáùåíèÿ â Èíòåðíåò. Óâàæàéòå íàøè ïðàâèëà - è Âàøè ìíåíèÿ è Âàø îïûò ñäåëàþò åãî åùå ëó÷øå. Óäà÷è! ÏÐÀÂÈËÀ ÔÎÐÓÌΠÍÅÒ ëè÷íûõ îñêîðáëåíèé, ôëåéìîâ è ïðîâîêàöèé. Ëè÷íûå îñêîðáëåíèÿ íå äîïóñêàþòñÿ íè â îäíîì ôîðóìå. Ëè÷íûå îñêîðáëåíèÿ â àäðåñ äðóãîãî ó÷àñòíèêà ôîðóìà (êàê è ïîñòû ïðîâîêàöèîííîãî ñîäåðæàíèÿ)- ëó÷øèé ñïîñîá áûòü îòñòðàíåííûì îò ó÷àñòèÿ â ôîðóìàõ. Ïîñòû, êîòîðûå ñ íàøåé òî÷êè çðåíèÿ íîñÿò îòêðîâåííî ðàñèñòñêèé, ñåêñèñòñêèé, ãîìîôîáíûé, ïîðíîãðàôè÷åñêèé èëè ëþáîé äðóãîé îñêîðáèòåëüíûé õàðàêòåð, áóäóò óäàëÿòüñÿ. Õîòÿ îáñóæäåíèå íåêîòîðûõ ñîöèàëüíûõ èëè ïîëèòè÷åñêèõ âîïðîñîâ ìîæåò äîïóñêàòü èñïîëüçîâàíèå ïîòåíöèàëüíî îñêîðáèòåëüíûõ òåðìèíîâ, âíå îãðàíè÷åííîãî êîíòåêñòà ýòèõ âîïðîñîâ èñïîëüçîâàíèå ïîäîáíûõ òåðìèíîâ â ôîðóìàõ íå äîïóñêàåòñÿ è áóäåò ïðåñëåäîâàòüñÿ. Dropzone.com - ìåæäóíàðîäíàÿ òóñîâêà. Ìû íàäååìñÿ ÷òî Âû áóäåòå óâàæàòü âåðó è âîççðåíèÿ âñåõ ó÷àñòíèêîâ ôîðóìà íåçàâèñèìî îò èõ ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ. Ïîæàëóéñòà îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå íà òî, ÷òî íàøè ôîðóìû è ñàéò â öåëîì íå ÿâëÿþòñÿ àìåðèêàíñêèìè, è íå ñòàâÿò ñâîåé öåëüþ ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòü è ïðîïàãàíäèðîâàòü àìåðèêàíñêèå èäåè è öåííîñòè. Áóäüòå òîëåðàíòíû. Ãðóáîñòü, îòêðîâåííîå íåçíàíèå ïðåäìåòà, ïîìåõà âåäåíèþ äèñêóññèé - ïîâîä äëÿ ïðåäóïðåæäåíèÿ ëèáî âðåìåííîãî èëè ïîëíîãî îòñòðàíåíèÿ îò ó÷àñòèÿ â ôîðóìàõ áåç îáúÿñíåíèÿ ïðè÷èí. ÍÅÒ íàìåêîâ íà ïåäîôåëèþ. Íàìåêè íà ïåäîôåëèþ èìåþò ïðàâî íà ñóùåñòâîâàíèå òîëüêî â êîíêðåòíîì êîíòåêñòå ëèáî â ðàìêàõ äèñêóññèè íà îïðåäåëåííûå ïîëèòè÷åñêèå è ñîöèàëüíûå òåìû. Âñå ýòèõ òåì Dropzone.com ïîëíîñòüþ çàïðåùàåò íàìåêè íà ïåäîôåëèþ è ïîñòû, ñîäåðæàùèå ïîäîáíûå íàìåêè, áóäóò óäàëÿòüñÿ áåç îáúÿñíåíèé. ÍÅÒ ðåêëàìû. Ðåêëàìà çàïðåùåíà âî âñåõ ôîðóìàõ çà èñêëþ÷åíèåì ñïåöèàëüíî îãîâîðåííûõ ñëó÷àåâ. Ïîä ðåêëàìîé ïîíèìàåòñÿ «ïðîäóêò èëè óñëóãà, êîòîðûå ïðåäëàãàþòñÿ äëÿ îáìåíà èëè ïðîäàæè». Ýòî íå êàñàåòñÿ ìåðîïðèÿòèé è ñåìèíàðîâ. Îäíàêî èíôîðìàöèÿ î ìåðîïðèÿòèÿõ è ñåìèíàðàõ ìîæåò áûòü îïóáëèêîâàíà òîëüêî â ôîðóìå Events & Places to Jump ëèáî, åñëè îíà êàñàåòñÿ êîíêðåòíîé äèñöèïëèíû - â ñîîòâåòñòâóþùåì ôîðóìå ðàçäåëà Skydiving Discipline. Âû íå ìîæåòå ðåêëàìèðîâàòü ëèáî ñêëîíÿòü äðóãèõ ó÷àñòíèêîâ ê ïîêóïêå, ïðîäàæå èëè èñïîëüçîâàíèþ ëþáûõ ïðîäóêòîâ èëè óñëóã ÷åðåç ôîðóìû äëÿ äèñêóññèé. Ýòè ïðàâèëà ïî ðåêëàìå âêëþ÷àþò âñå ÷àñòè ôîðóìîâ, â òîì ÷èñëå àâàòàðû è ïîäïèñè. Äëÿ ëþáîé ðåêëàìû èñïîëüçóéòå ðàçäåë Classifieds, à òàêæå îáðàùàéòåñü ê ðàçäåëó Advertising (äëÿ èíôîðìàöèè î âîçìîæíîñòè îáìåíà áàííåðàìè, ðàçìåùåíèþ ðåêëàìû è ñïîíñîðñòâà ôîðóìîâ Dropzone.com). Ïèøèòå ïî òåìå Ïèøèòå â ôîðóì, êîòîðûé áîëüøå âñåãî ñîîòâåòñòâóåò òåìå ïîñòà. Åñëè ñóùåñòâóåò ôîðóì, áîëåå ïîäõîäÿùèé äëÿ êîíêðåòíîãî ïîñòà, ìîäåðàòîðû ìîãóò ïåðåäâèãàòü ïîñò â ëþáîå âðåìÿ. Íå ïóáëèêóéòå ïîñò îäíîâðåìåííî â íåñêîëüêèõ ôîðóìàõ - â ýòîì ñëó÷àå âñå êîïèè, âêëþ÷àÿ îðèãèíàëüíûé ïîñò, ìîãóò áûòü óäàëåíû. Äëÿ ðàçâèòèÿ òåìû èñïîëüçóéòå óæå ñóùåñòâóþùèå âåòêè, à íå íà÷èíàéòå íîâûå. Âåòêè íà òàê íàçûâàåìûå «âå÷íûå òåìû» ìîãóò áûòü óäàëåíû ëèáî çàêðûòû ðåøåíèåì ìîäåðàòîðîâ. Ïîæàëóéñòà îáðàòèòå âíèìàíèå íà òî, ÷òî äèñêóññèè íà òåìû ïîëèòèêè, êîíòðîëÿ íàä îðóæèåì è ðåëèãèè çàïðåùåíû íà ôîðóìå The Bonfire - äëÿ ýòèõ è äðóãèõ îáùåñòâåííûõ òåì èñïîëüçóéòå ôîðóì Speakers Corner. Îñòàâàéòåñü â òåìå Ñìåíà òåìû âåòêè ìîæåò ïîñëóæèòü ïðè÷èíîé åå çàêðûòèÿ èëè óäàëåíèÿ. Îòâåòû äîëæíû îñòàâàòüñÿ â ðàìêàõ òåìû îðèãèíàëüíîãî ïîñòà. Õîòÿ ìû ïðèçíàåì, ÷òî äèñêóññèè ÷àñòî ìåíÿþò íàïðàâëåíèå, îòâåòû, êîòîðûå ñîâåðøåííî íå èìåþò îòíîøåíèÿ ê îðèãèíàëüíîé òåìå âåòêè, ñêîðåå âñåãî áóäóò óäàëÿòüñÿ ëèáî áóäóò âûíåñåíû â îòäåëüíóþ âåòêó. Òåõíè÷åñêèå îãðàíè÷åíèÿ Âåòêè, â êîòîðûõ áîëüøå 1000 ïîñòîâ ëèáî áîëåå 10 000 ïðîñìîòðîâ, ìîãóò áûòü çàêðûòû, òàê êàê îíè ïåðåãðóæàþò êàíàë è çàòðóäíÿþò ðàáîòó ñèñòåìû.  ýòîì ñëó÷àå íà âåòêå áóäåò ñäåëàíà ñîîòâåòñòâóþùàÿ ïîìåòêà, è Âû ìîæåòå íà÷àòü íîâóþ äèñêóññèþ íà òó æå òåìó. Âåòêè, åäèíñòâåííîé öåëüþ êîòîðûõ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷åíèå ìíîãî÷èñëåííûõ êîðîòêèõ îòâåòîâ, ìîãóò áûòü çàêðûòû ëèáî óäàëåíû, ÷òîáû íå ïåðåãðóæàòü ñèñòåìó. Ïðîñüáû îá óäàëåíèè ïîñòîâ Ýòî ôîðóì äëÿ îòêðûòîãî îáùåíèÿ, è Âû íåñåòå îòâåòñòâåííîñòü çà ñâîè âûñêàçûâàíèÿ è çà èõ ïîñëåäñòâèÿ. Êàê ïðàâèëî, ìû íå âûïîëíÿåì ïðîñüáû îá óäàëåíèè ëèáî ðåäàêòèðîâàíèè ïîñòîâ. Âû ìîæåòå ñàìè îòðåäàêòèðîâàòü ëèáî óäàëèòü ñâîé ïîñò â òå÷åíèè 6 ÷àñîâ ïîñëå åãî íàïèñàíèÿ.Ìîäåðàòîðû Êàê ïðàâèëî, â ñëó÷àÿõ, êîãäà íåîáõîäèìî âìåøàòåëüñòâî ìîäåðàòîðîâ, îíè áóäóò âûíîñèòü ïðåäóïðåæäåíèå. Íåñïîñîáíîñòü ðåàãèðîâàòü íà ïðåäóïðåæäåíèÿ ìîäåðàòîðîâ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîâîäîì äëÿ âðåìåííîãî èëè ïîëíîãî îòñòðàíåíèÿ îò ïðàâà ó÷àñòèÿ â ôîðóìàõ. Ìû îäíàêî îñòàâëÿåì çà ñîáîé ïðàâî óäàëÿòü ëþáîé ïîñò, êîòîðûé íàðóøàåò ïðàâèëà ôîðóìîâ, áåç ïðåäâàðèòåëüíîãî ïðåäóïðåæäåíèÿ è áåç îáúÿñíåíèé. Åñëè Âû ìíîãîêðàòíî íàðóøàåòå ïðàâèëà ôîðóìîâ ëèáî íàðóøàåòå ðàáîòó ôîðóìîâ äðóãèìè ñïîñîáàìè, àäìèíèñòðàòîðû ìîãóò âðåìåííî ëèøèòü Âàñ ïðàâà ó÷àñòèÿ â ôîðóìàõ ëèáî ïîëíîñòüþ îòêëþ÷èòü îò ðàáîòû ñàéòà ïî ñâîåìó óñìîòðåíèþ. Ëþáîå îñêîðáëåíèå â àäðåñ ÷ëåíà íàøåé êîìàíäû äîáðîâîëüíûõ ìîäåðàòîðîâ ÷åðåç ôîðóì ëèáî ëè÷íîå ñîîáùåíèå, à òàêæå ïðèçûâû ê ìîäåðàòîðàì îòñòðàíèòü ëèáî èñêëþ÷èòü äðóãîãî ÷ëåíà ôîðóìà, ìîæåò ïðèâåñòè ê íåìåäëåííîìó îòñòðàíåíèþ ëèáî èñêëþ÷åíèþ àâòîðà ïîñòà. Ïîñòû íà òåìó äåéñòâèé ìîäåðàòîðîâ (â òîì ÷èñëå «Êóäà äåëîñü ìîå ñîîáùåíèå?») áóäóò óäàëåíû. Åñëè ó Âàñ âîïðîñ ê äåéñòâèÿì ìîäåðàòîðà, êîòîðûé íå îáúÿñíèë ïðè÷èíó ñâîåãî âìåøàòåëüñòâà – ïîæàëóéñòà, îáðàùàéòåñü ê íèì ÷åðåç ëè÷íûå ñîîáùåíèÿ. Ó÷àñòâóÿ â ðàáîòå ôîðóìîâ, Âû ïðèçíàåòå, ÷òî ýòîò ñàéò - ÷àñòíàÿ ñîáñòâåííîñòü, è Âû - íàø ãîñòü, è ÷òî Dropzone.com îñòàâëÿåò çà ñîáîé ïðàâî óäàëÿòü ëþáîå ñîîáùåíèå. ×ëåíñòâî â Dropzone.com - ýòî ïðèâèëåãèÿ, à íå ïðàâî. Ìû âïðàâå â ëþáîå âðåìÿ ïåðåñìîòðåòü è èçìåíèòü ýòè ïðàâèëà áåç ïðåäâàðèòåëüíîãî îáúÿâëåíèÿ. Ïîæàëóéñòà, ðåãóëÿðíî ïðîâåðÿéòå ýòîò ðàçäåë. Åñëè Âû ïðîäîëæàåòå ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ Dropzone.com ïîñëå âíåñåíèÿ èçìåíåíèé - ýòî îçíà÷àåò, ÷òî Âû ïðèíèìàåòå ýòè èçìåíåíèÿ. Safe swoops Sangiro

I've made some changes to the Classifieds. Check this announcement. Safe swoops Sangiro

Did you actually look at the email address in my profile? It's written as: sangiro at dropzone dot com to avoid it being harvested by spam-bots. I'm assuming that you would know how to change that into an actual email address. Just clicking on it won't work. Safe swoops Sangiro

Heya all, I've made a few changes and improvements to the classified ads system. When you click on Post an Ad you will be asked to select a category to which you want your ad to be posted. Depending on which category you choose you will be presented with a category specific entry form. For Containers, Main Canopies, Reserve Canopies and AADs you will be given an option to enter the following specific information for your item: Manufacturer Type or Name of gear Size or Model Number of Jumps on the item DOM (Date of Manufacture) Serial NumberYou do not have to fill in this information but fill in as much as can - it can only help you sell your gear faster! Just leave whatever is not relevant blank. If your gear is not in the dropdown, just leave it blank and describe it in the description. For Complete Systems you will be presented with all the options above for your container, main, reserve and AAD. A typical completed form will look like this. Other changes include:Pricing information updated Select your Currency Shipping Information When completely done your detailed ad will look like this. Have fun! Safe swoops Sangiro

That has nothing to do with changes being made. That's just a server issue at the time. Just wait 30 seconds and try again... I just did (and I see there are many other new ads) and it works fine.

Yup - I've been trying to find a default page encoding that will work for both Latin and Cyrillic character sets. I expected UTF-8 would do the trick but it seems to be causing those issues you mentioned. It's back to ISO-8859-1 for now... Safe swoops Sangiro

I think you're wrong. This comes up from time to time so let me address it again here. It has nothing to do with fractioning of forums. It has everything to do with online communities and what makes them work and what not. Remember this: audiences scale, communities don't. Communities rely on back and forth interaction where people maintain "connections" with others. More than that they also need to understand and track the connections, and the nature of those connections, between other members in the community. The reality is that once the group gets too large for people to maintain at least some form of understanding of the connections around them it falls apart. It becomes an audience - like television, where communication is one way. In online communities it often becomes an audience for the loudest most obnoxious individuals. People's first reaction is to resist more groups, but they don't really know why. Is it because it is in the best interest of the community? If that's what you think, you've simply been proven wrong many times over and it's time to re-think. Nobody can point to a single large online community that actually survived. They all die. While most people seem to think that everyone should have access to everything, that's actually not the best way to ensure the longevity of the community either. It is a very healthy thing for communities to set up barriers to entry. Some larger community sites will only accept members for the first 5 days of each month and then they shut down their membership! Barriers can be established in many ways. Whichever way you choose, unless you find a way to reward and protect your "members in good standing" you will simply end up alienating exactly that group by allowing their conversations to be drowned out by the noise of the masses, which inevitably happens in single large forums. This almost always happens online due to pervasiveness of technology, anonymity and lack of personal accountability. The interest of the individual does not come above that of the community. Not in real life, and not here either. So, if 50 people on here wanted to seriously talk about skysurfing, there is a very strong argument that says: Even if they have only 10 discussions for every 10,000 in The Bonfire, there may actually be more value in those 10 discussions that in the other 10,000. In fact there almost certainly will! That has nothing to do with fragmentation. That has to do with determining value and "discriminating" (ooh.. he said discriminating!) in favor of what holds real value. There will always be people who shout "look another group!" or "ooh a clique". Those people usually have not spent much time trying to understand the nature of online communities. They're putting new wine into old bags. In makes sense to allow people with similar interests to build their own community and it makes sense to protect them from the dribble that comes from bored computer users. Unfortunately the skydiving community as a single entity has long surpassed the critical mass of being an effective community. We still desperately hang on to some of the benefits we get from trying to act like a "community". And we so desperately don't want to let go of the word! I've linked the 3 articles below before but I'll do it again for those who are interested. These are not held up to be the definitive and final word on the subject. They are simply the most accurate and concise summaries in my opinion of something that I have experienced on this site for more than 12 years and for many years before that on the internet in general. A Group Is Its Own Worst Enemy Communities, Audiences, and Scale. Social Software and the Politics of Groups Good night!

Mea culpa! I'm building some coolness for Premier Members... little bug there. Got it fixed. Safe swoops Sangiro

In Chris' defense - he did not get my PM before he made this post. I am all for Dropzone.com members getting free stuff but I would like to ask manufacturers to contact me before they make "free" promotional posts. Most do so already. If you are going to be collecting information (whether people give it to you freely or not) and you want to use this platform there are some basic requirements around a clear privacy policy, ways to opt-out of mailing lists and clear raffle rules that need to be stated before a post can be made here. I'll post more about this to the Announcements forum. Safe swoops Sangiro

I've asked this manufacturer to consult with me before they make any further promotional posts. Seeing as they ignored that I'm locking this thread. There's a right way and a wrong way to do these things. This is the wrong way. Congratulations on the new canopy Lisa.

Please use a subject line that indicates what your post is about. People should be able to decide whether they want to click on it or not by reading your subject. Safe swoops Sangiro

Always a pity when some people are just hell-bent on spoiling it for everyone. Safe swoops Sangiro

That's me working on stuff. It should be gone again. I had 3 images next to each other that was together more than the designed-for screen size... Safe swoops Sangiro

Nope - no such option at this time. Safe swoops Sangiro

That's because you subscribed to those forums. It doesn't have anything to do with your message settings. Go to: Edit Profile --> Subscriptions Unsubscribe to those forums. Safe swoops Sangiro

You noticed that as well... huh? Safe swoops Sangiro

Locked on request by Chris. He will start a new thread seeing as they've made some big changes. This thread has the old information. Safe swoops Sangiro

Yes it is! Good job. I'll PM for info. Safe swoops Sangiro

Quick note. WordPay (my credit card processor) has been having some service issues for the past 2 days. They're not completely restored yet. If you don't succeed first time, try again. They are still processing, the volume has just gone down. I'll let you know when there's an update. Safe swoops Sangiro