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He didn't want to be on the plane when it landed in the US. His plan changed. He then jumped ASAP to give himself the most time before a Reno landing. Being on the plane when it landed in Reno was extremely risky.. he already had the money. If the plane was going to Mex, he had much more time and range to jump. IMO, he picked 305 because it was a short flight, few passengers and less likely to have air marshals. There is no evidence he was a local. He was also described as Latin, Swarthy, Mexican in appearance...
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His initial demand was no stopping in the US for any reason... that was indicative of his initial plan. At the time hijacked planes did land in Mexico and proceed to Cuba. Landing in the US was far more risky than landing in Mex to refuel. The evidence does suggest some knowledge of the area from the air, but he had aviation knowledge/experience and was most likely ex-military so that isn't a surprise. You don't have to be local to ID Tacoma, I can do it. There is no evidence he was a local or that he initially wanted to jump ASAP before Reno was in play.
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Cooper said stop anywhere in Mexico to refuel do not land in the US for any reason. He must have thought the plane could could make it to make that demand or the demand would have been rejected. They planned on Mazatlan for fuel. The point is Cooper's demand changed when the destination changed. He did not initially demand airstairs down on takeoff. EVERYONE believes he wanted to jump ASAP due to his demand for airstairs down on takeoff. This is false, it wasn't his initial demand. It was an altered plan due to Reno being in play. The evidence used to speculate for a planned ASAP PNW jump is false. If his initial demand was airstairs down on takeoff, a planned PNW jump makes sense but it wasn't.. it was lowered in flight. IMO, he most likely wanted to jump outside the US based on his use of "US" and "American" Currency, he wasn't dressed for the PNW weather and his initial demand nonstop to anywhere in Mexico for fuel. Cooper's LZ wasn't his first plan, it was adhoc.
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Cooper demanded maps..
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I touched on this earlier but it was lost in the OT discussion.. This myth is still embedded in the Cooper consciousness and it is extremely important. Cooper's initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight. FBI file.. "HJ specified that he wanted to go to Mexico City non-stop, that the aircraft configuration must be gear DOWN, flaps at 15 deg, that the aft entry door must be open at all times, and that the aft stairs be extended after take-off. Later specified that the stairs must be fully extended before take-off. MSPFO advised crew (1) that non-stop SEA-MEX impossible with gear DOWN, flaps 15 deg, (2) that take-off with air-stairs full down impossible due to inability to rotate airplane. When HJ advised of this he asked that air-stairs be partially extended prior to take-off. MSPFO advised this also impossible since stairs could not be held in any intermediate position. HJ had previously stated that no landing in the continental U.S. would be permitted “for fuel or anything else”. When advised of range limitation in his specified configuration, he agreed to something short of the border." Why is this important.. First, it demonstrates that Cooper did not have extensive knowledge of the 727. He got the range wrong and the operation of the airstairs wrong. Second, his initial demand was airstairs lowered in flight, he thought the crew controlled them from the cockpit. Tina corrected him indicating they were controlled from the rear. Cooper's plan was not to takeoff with airstairs down, that changed when landing in Reno came into play. Cooper altered his plan based on Reno. Based on Cooper's initial demand he did not plan to jump ASAP and that indicates his LZ wasn't pre-planned but rather an adjustment. When his no US stop demand was altered, Cooper then wanted out ASAP. He did not want to be on the plane in Reno. Cooper's LZ was adhoc, not pre-planned.
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More corroboration for Tosaw's claim... Cooper offered ALL the stews packets of ransom money. Calame and Rhodes, offered packet of money to each stew at 14:30
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Tina corroborated... TWO MATCHBOOKS
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Let's see.. Tina was in Gresham 1979... She had previously moved in with her sister and brother in law Lee Dormuth, an FBI agent. Lee E Dormuth's amateur radio address was at: xxxx xxxxxxx Rd, Yardley Pa.. from 1972 - 1978. 1978-1980 it changed to xxxx xxxxxxx Dr, San Diego CA Lee and Tina's sister placed Tina in Gresham 1978/79 when they moved from PA to San Diego. Did Lee Dormuth discard the Cooper money into the Columbia 78/79 to protect Tina?? Palmer report.. money definitely deposited after 1978. "Even with this, he still felt the money was not at the site for more than a year. At the height found, the money was definitely deposited more than four years after the dredging of the Columbia River in 1974."
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When Tosaw is being accused of lying,, consider the credibility of the source. A source which has smeared, ridiculed, distorted and lied at some time about virtually everyone related to the Cooper case... I posted Tosaw's claims, not mine. Most of those claims are corroborated by other sources, however no book or person is error free.
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Cooper used TWO matchbooks..
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The specific "Tacoma" quote from Tina is in the Geoffrey Gray files.. The FBI Foia docs have a vague summary. p 11381
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Cooper identified Tacoma to Tina before landing in Seattle while plane in a holding pattern.
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Did a rough calculation and 305 had about 300 miles worth of fuel when it landed in Reno. They had prepared for a landing at Yuma and Mazatlan Mex by negotiating with Cooper to pull gear and flaps up after takeoff.
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Found something new,,, for me. Cooper took the matchbook cover but also wrote notes on it.
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"the crew told him that they could see the lights of Portland and other distinctive lights in that area"
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The FBI checked all the records and narrowed it down to about 15 people who were further investigated..
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The initial description and first sketch...
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Another thing I had looked at was the Columbia River flow reversal... Himmelsbach noted it.. and a report suggests it can go as far as Sauvie Island.. no idea if it could move money 8 miles though.
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You can't compare the NORJAK witness environment to Ridgway.. That final Cooper sketch is closest, not exact but close.
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This is getting silly.. Now people are claiming the Palmer report is wrong because TBAR would have eroded.. well good reasoning if you don't know the facts. TBAR erosion isn't linear. TBAR and the Fazio property is mile marker 97.1.. In 1976/77 200,000 cu/yds was deposited at mile 97.3 just upstream of TBAR. It was an erosion mitigation project. Dumping 200,00 cu/yds on the shore just upstream of TBAR would have added sediment to TBAR... In fact, this is one of my top TBAR theories, that the money may have come from this operation, worked loose and landed on TBAR. Claiming erosion is a linear constant is a false premise.
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Sheridan Peterson photo 1966. Cooper was roundly described as swarthy/latin/Mexican/Native Indian in appearance and complexion. Hair was normal, parted on left combed back, also curly/wavy/marcelled. Suspects run the spectrum from ridiculous to interesting to potential, though Peterson isn't the very worst fit for Cooper, he is well down the list at the weak end. Other than his impressive skydiving skills there is no case.. Eric is good at selling/promoting his Sheridan narrative but take a serious look beyond the curtain of hype and there is nothing there. It is just a woven narrative of innuendo, speculation and distortions of the evidence. Classic goal seeking. The best sketch of Cooper..
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Right,, To support the false Sheridan Peterson as Cooper narrative, Eric must: Change the flight path to have him land near TBAR, and Have the money buried right after the hijacking. There is no evidence for either of these and substantial evidence against no matter how much Eric spins it. The case for Sheridan Peterson being Cooper is extremely weak, built on speculation, poor logic, ignoring/distorting evidence and confirmation bias. He was in Nepal, doesn't match the profile or the physical description. All you really have is a skilled skydiver.
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Eric Ulis wrote.. "Finally, we now know that Palmer's identified "clay layer" was not the 1974 dredge. Rather, it is a natural layer that runs the length of the beach. In other words, the money did not arrive after 1974. In fact, the money arrived almost immediately after the skyjacking and rotted away--rubber bands in tact--for 8 years." The Palmer report says the opposite, this is complete nonsense, it is absolutely clear in the report. Why is Eric using the Palmer report to make a counterfactual claim? The money was found in the top layer which contained "fresh" debri... it wasn't there for eight years. "he (Palmer) still felt the money was not at the site for more than a year. At the height found, the money was definitely de-posited more than four years after the dredging of the Columbia River in 1974. He also added that he felt certain that the money did not work its way up through the post dredging sand to the upper layer." "These layers consisted of an upper sand layer, a post dredging sand layer, a clay lump (dredge) sand layer, and below that an older sand layer. The upper layer con-sisted of six inches to eight inches of reworked beach sand and is the sand which contained the fragments and bundles of the recovered money. This sand also contained soda pop cans and other debris, which were not severely damaged or rusted. The post dredging sand contained older soda pop cans, rusted nails and spikes, and other rusted artifacts, which were in a much more deteriorated condition. The clay lump (dredge) sand was a mix-ture of course sand and fragments of organic clay material, ranging from one inch to five inches in size. Based on u.s. Corps of Engineering records which reflect that they dredged the Columbia River at this site in 1974" "during his work at the site and areas surrounding the site, that the clay lump (dredged) sand ranging from a depth of approximately four feet, 25 yards from the money site, to only two feet where the money was found."
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Georger can't find FBI FOIA #43.. never trust anything from such a inept sleuth. For everyone else. Here. https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-43-of-43/view
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First thing I do is OCR any new FBI file, there is now far too much info to keep track of.. Stick them all in one folder and easily search for relevant info..