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HALO jumps from C-130's..... Cooper could have been involved or just heard about it... and adapted it to the 727. https://sofrep.com/specialoperations/worlds-first-combat-h-l-o-jump/

I lean toward a bigger plane like the C-130,, it is pressurized and dropped cargo and troops. Cooper asked for 10,000 ft, the unpressurized limit and gear and flaps down. Flaps down and gear down is the low level drop configuration for the C-130. Of course, It could be "experience" with more than one type plane in Vietnam/Korea.

C-123.. manual looks like rear controls only https://buckeyewing.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/c-123b-9-loading-and-unloading-reduced-size.pdf

Here Cooper thought the cockpit could control the rear airstairs.. That means he did not have 727 "experience"... So, where did he get the idea... the C130 had controls in the cockpit. If Cooper was Vietnam, he likely got the assumption that the cockpit controlled the rear airstairs from another plane,, like the C130.

Sandbagging,, yikes if you want to go that route into theoreticals then we have nothing to build a foundation on... Cooper could have been a 5 foot 80 year old Chinese woman in disguise with lifts. Anything is possible,, we have to operate from a base. Otherwise people just make up anything and they often do to justify theories... Cooper had Mucklow show him how to operate the stairs and he also indicated that the crew could operate the rear stairs from the cockpit. He also couldn't get the stairs down initially. The 727 in SE Asia had the rear stairs removed. We don't know if a 727 was used in some secret operation that they won't admit to. The C130 was widely used, the Vietnam C130 guys thought Cooper was one of them... You can open the door and lower the ramp inflight from the rear or the cockpit.. If he believed the cockpit could control the rear stairs that indicates he didn't have 727 specific knowledge but may have got it from C130 experience.. or maybe another plane. He had aviation knowledge so he got that assumption from somewhere.

Right,, so the "Air America" CIA stuff has always lingered as having some possible connection but there is no evidence of any. The obvious similarity is they were both 727's, but that is it. The FBI investigated the jumpers who took part in Takhli test jumps. Cooper incorrectly thought the cockpit controlled the rear airstairs, so I have been looking for planes used in SE Asia that did drops and had cargo doors controlled from the cockpit.. I believe that was the C-130. Both front and rear controls. IMO, it is more likely Cooper had experience with the C-130 than 727.

My initial comment to you was 100% accurate, you disagreed with it and gave zero clarity when asked. Now, you clarify the experience Cooper did not have. Pilot/expert. That is what I have already said. So, you don't disagree.. You want to research a suspect that has pilot experience that now you don't think Cooper had.. Then a vague statement, "believe" "probably" SAT in Laos. What "experience" in Laos exactly? and how does it relate to the evidence. The 727's in SE Asia potential has been tossed around forever but nothing solid found. At least not that is made public. This has some updates in it, year 2020, p 49 https://library.utdallas.edu/specialcollections/hac/cataam/Leeker/history/Tibet.pdf

I asked you what you disagreed with.. and got back.. it's just your opinion. Now, you claim Cooper's experience wasn't 727 specific. Is that your opinion now? If so, what do you disagree with now?

That is the point,,, it is your opinion... based on what sources? apparently not the evidence. Even opinions need an argument... Most serious Cooper people believe Cooper had some aviation and parachute experience based on the evidence,, The leap to claim he was a 727 pilot/expert isn't supported. It is actually contradicted.

I am not adverse to colouring outside the lines as a means of exploration but you need a good reason... There is no evidence Cooper was a 727 pilot/expert. Actually, evidence to the contrary.

Disagree on what, there is no evidence of 727 experience. What facts support 727 specific experience? The ones I stated indicate lack of 727 specific knowledge. The only thing that might support it is the 15 degree flap setting but even Carr thought Cooper never actually said it but the number came from the crew interpreting flaps down.

Evidence indicates Cooper had aviation knowledge but not necessarily the 727. He had to have Tina show him how to lower the rear stairs and also thought the crew had control over the rear stairs. He got the range wrong. We don't know if Cooper actually used the term "crew meals". The FBI files state that he requested or wanted crew meals not that he used the exact term. He may have, Cooper definitely had aviation experience.

NOT TRUE... The method for extracting DNA from fabric is using sticky tape.. Tom Kaye used sticky stubs all over the tie,,,, but the big factor here is modern DNA tech vs old.... The DNA the FBI has can only eliminate,, modern advancements in DNA tech would provide a better sample to compare against suspects.

That was a vacuum filter that was tested,,, Kaye has many sticky stubs used to collect particles,, he doesn't want to destroy those. But IMO, that is our best source of DNA..

Tom K's sticky stubs from the tie would have the DNA.. The problems are testing is expensive, there may be many individuals and the testing is destructive.

The only angle is to have the geneticist contact the FBI and ask,,, chances are very slim as the FBI doesn't seem interested in solving the case.

No idea..

Last mentioned,, requested in 2002, that is when they wanted to do DNA. Sent to LA lab in 1974,, in 2002 lab had no record. Later in 2002 they found a hair sample. Possibly found it?? There was actually two hairs found on the plane, head and limb.

By "well known" if you mean high profile public ones.. Off the top of my head, I think they all have brown eyes except Sheridan Peterson but I haven't checked them all. McCoy might have blue eyes.. The FBI investigated around 1000 suspects and about 20 were not eliminated. Unless the FBI had proven the whereabouts of a suspect during Norjak they eliminated suspects based on a subjective analysis of all factors.. the FBI didn't automatically eliminate on eye colour alone or even height alone unless it was way off.. but the FBI didn't solve this case. "all witnesses have described UNSUB aka Cooper as having brown eyes" "described as having a dark and swarthy complexion"

"Special Agent Fred Gutt told Banse, in reference to the DNA taken from the necktie, "it's not a very good sample" and may not have been D.B. Cooper's DNA. The FBI's Gutt provided more detail yesterday, telling the Associated Press that the failed DNA test is not definitive because agents can't be sure that the DNA on the tie came from D.B. Cooper." https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/09/139259039/d-b-cooper-update-fbi-says-no-dna-match-with-new-suspect

Ulis is still using the phrase "possibly brown" to claim it really means "possibly blue",, it doesn't. Cooper's eyes were described as "dark"... brown or black. Black is actually a very dark brown. Sheridan was a 6' 1" balding, blue eyed left handed non smoker.. Sheridan was not latin in appearance, not swarthy, he did not have a wavy/curly/marceled full head of hair. He was 185-200 lbs and living in Nepal.. He does resemble the first sketch but not the more accurate sketch "B". His image and speech has been widely publicized with no acknowledgement by witnesses. Sheridan doesn't match Cooper at all. The case for Sheridan is weak to non existent. So, why did the FBI take DNA for a such poor suspect? They also did other poor suspects.. Some of those suspects had advocates within the FBI. Sheridan was anti Government, an expert skydiver, still alive and agreed to a test,, those factors probably drove their decision to test. Eng pushed for testing LD Cooper,, a ridiculous suspect.

All here... https://citizensleuths.com/cooperimages-sp-260985789.html

Florence Schaffner said she saw Cooper putting on a back chute,,, well before takeoff.

I never claimed the info was new,, What is new is the fact that it is in the FBI docs.. previously it was hearsay from agents. I posted the FBI doc as confirmation... get it.

"degraded DNA sample could only be used to exclude individuals as possible donors"