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I think there was more dredging activity on TBAR than the 74 operation.. locals in 1980 stated that there was beach replenishment often. The 74 operation may have been the only channel operation but not the only dredging. Palmer assumes the layer was from the 74 dredge operation but it might not have been. but, the 74 dredge spoils were deposited upstream of the money find spot in large mounds that migrated into the river.. The river likely spread the dredge material downstream over the money find spot.
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Darren and Bruce coming up on a podcast..
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Yes, another one of those in that lowest suspect category of people who either know or are related to Cooper, have a great story but no evidence and even contradict the case facts.. some may believe what they say, some are just BS'ers.. and people with limited case knowledge get sucked into these stories. But, there is an actual "Shelton" suspect the FBI wanted to do DNA on.. He moved to Shelton from Campbell Ca.. The Shelton references throughout the FBI are not the same person.. so info has been somewhat conflated. There are many many suspects in the FBI files that are mentioned but never resolved.. But, I try to avoid the nonsense suspects because they have sucked a lot of oxygen out of the case and are easily eliminated.. Weber, Reca, LD Cooper, Dayton, Christiansen, Chael's guy, etc... slightly better but easily eliminated, Peterson, McCoy, Rackstraw... some others are better but lack info.. Lots of newer people in the case on Reddit chasing false suspects, theories and speculation.. that is part of the learning process. Start with the case facts,, not a suspect.
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Jeswine's number is still searchable on the FAA site,, it wasn't changed.. and I am not sure he is still alive. I assume the packing card went with the chute to the museum but it is probably still inside the pocket and not on display.
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Confirmed it was William (Bill) Jeswine who twice repacked the chute Cooper left on the plane and was returned to Hayden..
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No way,, the Shelton lead is not one person but is a conflation of tips and a suspect who moved from California.. a red herring. Aitken lived his entire life in Shelton. Aitken may be the guy Chael claimed was Cooper but his story is nonsense. Like many who claimed to either know or be related to Cooper,, no evidence and wrong info. Edit,, Chael said his Cooper suspect died in Arizona,, this isn't that guy. Welcome to the Vortex, you can enter but you can never leave.
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WW2 Pioneer chute P2-B-24
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Forget about Carr.. his "died in jump" argument is flawed because he doesn't know the facts. He and the FBI got played by Cossey just like he played the media.. Carr thought Cooper used Cossey's PERSONALLY modified hard to pull chute. He didn't. Hayden bought the chutes at a surplus shop, the shop got them repacked by Cossey, Hayden never met Cossey. NO way Cossey packs a hard to pull modified chute (1 of a pair) as a bail out rig for a customer (who never jumps).
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Have been trying to determine the model of the chute left on the plane and returned to Hayden.. I think it is a Pioneer P2-B-24...
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He would have been about 33.. That is the current record right from the FAA.. has to be the date first issued,, I can't find anything on expiring or renewing the Certificate. Maybe like a drivers license.. he also has a private pilot cert dated 1969.
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You are missing something... Cossey claimed and believed that the back chutes were his sent from Issaquah... not Hayden's.. this is explained earlier. The context is,, why would he maintain this error once it was self evidently false.
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The re-enactment was to take place early Jan '72... Cossey was being vetted to do the jump but it fell through and they used the sleds. But, Cossey was the FBI's go to guy for the chutes found over the years.. that makes him important and feeds his ego. If you read his statements to the FBI he didn't exactly lie to them, he was initially mistaken, then indirectly maintained that error.. he did claim he gave them his records but the FBI never got them.. though he lied directly to the media. Carr believed the back chutes came from Cossey's house, not sure if that came from Cossey or Carr assumed it. Bruce thinks Cossey was used by the FBI to spread a narrative... he flip flopped on whether Cooper survived the jump.. It seems that much later the FBI lost confidence in Cossey. bottom line is Cossey is completely unreliable and his description of Cooper's chute conflicts with the evidence. Did the FBI catch it or just cover it up as well? It seems odd that the FBI didn't catch Cossey's error.
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Here we go................... In Dec 1971 the cigarette butts were disposed of.. There is no way the FBI did not know this or could easily figure this out over 50 years. IMO, They destroyed the cigarette butts within weeks but could never admit it. FBI docs, Dec 9, 1971 Cigarette butts are Q1.. "disposition of Q1"
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Cossey was going to duplicate Cooper's jump.. that may be why he didn't correct his chute error.. It was all set up then fell through.. Could he have made it? "Oh yeah," Cossey insists, firmly.
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The smaller money frags are shown in the plastic cases.. but, there were some larger frags found.. at 1:30 in video Where did they go... perhaps they were distributed with the larger bill pieces...
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Breaking, dummy has been found...
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Cooper was told erroneously that the chutes were coming from McChord.. he was concerned about the delay and commented that the chutes shouldn't take that long from McChord. So, he believed they were coming from McChord, not Cossey or Hayden or any private rigger. I found Cossey's riggers registration.. April 14, 1971.. I doubt he was the only rigger in the area. Hayden's rigs were packed by Cossey May 21, 1971, 5 weeks after he got his Master Parachute Rigger certification. Maybe there was a lower level rigger cert, there is a senior rigger.. Cossey may have had a senior rigger cert prior. Certificate: MASTER PARACHUTE RIGGER Date of Issue: 4/14/1971Ratings: MASTER PARACHUTE RIGGER BACK CHEST SEAT Limits: SEAL SYMBOL HF9.
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Wrong,, Cooper thought the chutes were military ones coming from McChord. There is no relationship between Cooper and Cossey.
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Maybe, earlier during an active investigation, not now 50 years later.. Sometime in '72, the FBI narrative switched from Cooper was clever to he was not and died in the jump..
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Cossey was brought in by a "business associate" at Sea Tac.. it was a coincidence that he also packed Hayden's back chutes. "Earlier that evening, skydiver Earl Cossey, a master rigger, received a telephone call at home. The call was from a business associate who also happened to be the manager of Sea-Tac International Airport. The airport manager asked Cossey for two backpacks and two chest-mount reserves as soon as possible but could not disclose the reason he needed them. Cossey admits he wondered about the manager’s request, “But I trusted him completely and did as I was told,” he said. Cossey called his drop zone in Issaquah, Washington, and asked a person who was staying there to collect the rigs and hand them over to authorities. Police rushed the rigs in a patrol car from the drop zone to Sea-Tac International. Later that evening, Cossey heard on the news that there was a hijacking in progress. He was stunned at the revelation that this was why the authorities had asked for his parachutes. “I thought, ‘Oh crap! There go my parachutes!’ ” Cossey recalled. “I was just laughing at the stupidity of that guy and thought, ‘This guy’s nuts.’”
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Bruce Smith talked to someone who knew Cossey, he said he was a serial liar. He gets elevated if the chutes were his and not Hayden's..
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Here is what happened with Cossey and the chutes. Cossey was contacted at home and asked for chutes, all four. He said to get them from Issaquah. But, before Linn Emerick grabbed them the back chutes were secured from Norm Hayden who sent them in by cab. Linn Emerick was instructed to grab only the two front chutes needed.. he grabbed a good one and a dummy. So, Cossey believed on the night of the hijacking that the chutes were his form Issaquah. Cossey did not know Hayden's back chutes were used. The Hayden chute Cooper used was initially described as olive drab and tan cotton harness.. Cossey was contacted and was informed about the chutes left on the plane, he then described the missing back chute as his custom NB6, sage green nylon container/sage green nylon harness.. Cossey initially believed his chute was used but that error would quickly become self evident. Instead of correcting it, he told many lies to cover it up and never supplied his packing records. Now, the FBI was not only looking for the wrong chute based on the description from Cossey, they actually had the packing card but never realized it. It is possible Cooper's chute was found but rejected.. This interview with Cossey, explains it.. “The skydiver staying at the loft had grabbed two of my personal backpacks and two chest packs from the drop zone [Issaquah]. One was my B-4 sport rig and the other was my Pioneer NB-8, a Navy emergency chute used for pilots.” (this is the only time Cossey ever called the NB-8 a Pioneer) Cossey was wrong, they were NOT his personal chutes. The back chutes did NOT come from Issaquah with the chest packs, they came from Hayden. Cossey was wrong, they were NOT his personal chutes. Cooper's chute description from Cossey is entirely bogus.. his story shifted over time including claiming he sent the chutes from his home.. probably once it became public that only the chest chutes came from Issaquah and he claimed that he got back the chute left on the plane, he didn't, Hayden got it back. The FBI screwed this up for 50 years... what else have they screwed up.
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That interview exposed Carr's lack of up to date case knowledge.. not to blame him. Unless he has access to new files/info, he only has opinions. IMO, the FBI bias is to have Cooper die in the jump, that is why they didn't solve it. I give zero credibility for his "died in the jump" opinion, he has no evidence.
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Cooper's primary concern would that he had good chutes.. he checked the rigs and the cards. The one he took was a 1960, the one he left was a 1957... He probably just selected the newer one.
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Bruce Smith talks to Drew live Thursday,,