skypuppy

Anyone got any good stories about doing something wrong on a demo we haven't heard yet. Ones that have gone past the date of expiry, of course. I know of a demo into a professional football game where a couple of jumpers actually had beer-logos on their canopies (out of 10 or so jumpers). One of them actually landed at centre field, and then kited his canopy all the way down to the end-field. Trouble was, it was the wrong beer! Sponsor wasn't very happy. Not sure if the organizer lost the demo after that or not. But really, in that case, I blame the individual jumpers more than the organizer. If you've been around enuf to get a sponsor for your canopy, you should know the rules by then.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

hasnpt worked with hook turns.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Maybe it would if you're elected on your own merits, and not because you seem to be a symbol... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Everything else that happened was a direct result of his choosing to follow a kid who was doing nothing wrong. Doesn;t give the kid the right to physically attack him. The kid didn't own the ground there, either. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

yeah,. and if you want to pay more for gas because it'll save the whales, I'm totally in favor of you paying more for it.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

The biggest problem with this would be getting the DZs to stay on-top of it, but if you make it one of the requirements of being a Group Member, they really won't have a choice. ________________________________________________ Uh, pardon me.... You'd be lucky to hear anything from at least half the dz's about accidents or fatalities. Especially considering an incident that (allegedly) happened a few years ago when an AIM report got leaked by a uspa board member.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Most DZ's I've seen with an AAD requirement have a 1000 jump exception. At skydive toronto they started with 500, the next year it was 1000, now it's everyone, which is exactly what we predicted was going to happen when he said he was going to bring it in. And you can't jump vintage gear now unless it has three-rings on it. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I would say that for students and tandems, it is an industry standard. I would say the jury is still out on whether it is for experienced jumpers.... That may vary from region to region and dz to dz, but I don't think you can really talk for everyone, especially in the case where someone showed up without an aad and they made him use one of the dz rigs with their aad in it. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I've heard that a dozen times, and it never sounds any less stupid the next time. And it definitely wouldn't work that way in my small town. If fatalities increase business, I'll be happy to go out of business. You've heard it a dozen times because it's happened a dozen times. I would say that as a general rule, unless the dropzone is closed down, it pretty much always happens. And a fatality at a dz down the road will increase customers for all other dzs in the area for at least a short while.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I've wondered about this. There was a situation a couple of years ago where a semi-experienced jumper rented a rig from a quebec dz with a mandatory aad policy and went in with the aad turned off. I've always wondered if they make you use borrowed gear and you fuck up, wouldn't that make them liable? If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Interestingly enuf, Quebec dz's all went mandatory aad over a decade ago, and yet I think there may have been more fatalities in Quebec than any other province of Canada since. If you count the fatalities at other dz's in Canada that also have mandatory aad policies, I think that;s probably well over half of all skydiving deaths, while way less than half of dz's are aad mandatory. Interesting coincidence? If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

frankly you lost me here. The guy would probably have been way better off with gun-toting grandad or granny than he was with the cops anyways. So you pretty much lost your own argument. Even if he'd been accidently shot while escaping dahmer it'd have been a better way to go then what happened. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Hmmm, couldn't that also be breaking out and escaping? Or a wife's lover leaving after he hears the husband coming though the front door? I'll admit the odds are in favor of the other, but wouldn't it suck to finally escape the clutches of Jeffery Dalmer only to be held at gun point outside his house by the confused grandpa next door? Meanwhile, Jeffy's still pretty hungry. You say that like it's funny, and yet when one young guy did escape from Dahmer and make it out onto the street - naked - the cops took him back up to Dahmer's apartment where they were convinced by Dahmer that it was indeed a domestic spat, and left the guy with him to be eaten. That's not so funny. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Many Canadians, specially near urban areas, feel that having guns in a house poses a dierct threat to a child. _______________________________________________ Then in this case many Canadians should probably realize that guns are perfectly legal, and properly stored are no more a danger, and probably less, to a child than having a pool or hottub in the back yard. Anyway, it;s not really the teacher here that is getting the rough ride. It is administration, school board, family services and police, as well as the politicians responsible for their actions. Ultimately, THEY HAD NO GUN. The 'gun' was used to keep the monsters at bat probably so the girl could sleep through the night, and the Tooth Fairy would be able to safely come into her room to exchange her baby teeth, etc. This 'sort of' reminds me of the case where a man in camoflage was taken down by police (roughed up and strip searched in the open) in his own driveway (in Thorton, a tiny community near Barrie, very rural area) as he loaded his truck up to go hunting, simply because he lived across the road from a school. That one went to court, too, and he got a settlement. Last fall there was another case where a fake nuisance call was made about someone in a home just north of Barrie on Hwy 11, made by an acquaintance with a beef, resulting in a SWAT team going in with flashbangs, etc. - without even notifying the resident there were police outside. These are not really isolated incidents. Again, living where I do I've personally encountered rabid animals, bears attacking pets, different situations like that. Guns are just tools, not something to be afraid of. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

this whole story has gotten more and more interesting every day. Not only was the guy arrested, handcuffed, stripsearched, put in a cell and charged with possession of a weapon before his house was searched without a warrant or permission (the police searched and then came in and told him they had searched and asked him to sign a paper saying he had given permission), had his 3 kids taken to Family Services and his pregnant wife brought in to the station, all before police had seen a gun. But the only people who have even remotely thought twice are the police who said they will investigate the incident and determine if their actions were appropriate. The teacher (if that's what they are, currently kindergarten classes may have a teacher AND an early childhood educator) and the school administration and the supervisor, all claim they 'co-parent' and are responsible for their students lives - they say 'a situation in which a student draws a gun (with markerson a whiteboard, not pulls a gun out) would require a further conversation with the parents' all of which further begs the question of why the parents were not notified or asked before police or family services were brought in. Head of family services, Alison Scott, claims they followed proper procedure and would do it again tomorrow. The Education Minister has said no one did anything wrong. Even the Premier of the Province of Ontario, Liberal Dalton McGuinty has said, too bad, so sad. We have to be careful in these types of situations... Wonder how much his liberal policies will cost us this time (and mind you, if it was my family, I'd be suing them too). And to top it off, the drawing in question was on a 'whiteboard' in erasable marker, and has since been erased by persons unknown.... And no one knows if any pictures were ever taken of it. So no one will ever get to see it. And despite this attitude on the part of the pitbull Family Services and police, there are multiple incidents where children will be left with an unstable parent despite repeated warning signs, even up until they dress them in pretty dresses and drown them in a bathtub, as just one example. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

TK - this happened in Kitchener-Waterloo. That Dalton McGoofy country. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I had a reserve ride under a microraven 150 a few years == my body weight would probably have been 185-190, so exit weight would have been around 210. I had no problem with landing the reserve, mind you I had a couple thousand jumps, and it was a pretty windy day. I actually enjoyed the canopy flight on that jump - it's one of the few I remember well. Sold the reserve a couple years ago, but that had more to do with I lost the freebag on that jump and never paid to replace it, so the rig just sat in the basement. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

That is interesting. I know I've heard of that Junker, didn't realize it was his. And I think I've seen some pictures of the jumper with people on it, altho the more common picture was a Beech or Lockheed with people on it - and I know that one has been discussed on here lots. I suppose that picture might actually be in one of his books - I'll have to dig them out and take a look. Incidently, further into the book the bad guys hijacked a C130 and after landing it and killing the crew and taking the load off, one of them takes off in it, sets the auto pilot and jumps out. Again, this book came out early in '71 (second printing was april 71), so this was before DB Is Caidin a Texan? If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Martin Caidin wrote a couple of books about the history of parachuting, primarily in America I think. One was 'The Silken Angels' and the other with quite a bit of parachute lore in it was 'The Barnstormers'. I'm right now reading a novel of his 'almost midnight' which describes a jumper landing on the roof of a bank in Georgia in order to break in and steal $100,000. It is sort of interesting because it was copy=righted in 1971, the spring before DB Cooper. Anyway, I know he also wrote other books on aviation, but he writes about parachuting as if he knows what he's talking about. Does anyone know of him being a jumper, or even jumped with him?> If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I've heard of such methods in the 60's and even the early 70's, but 25 years ago would be 1987 -- you sure it wasn't earlier than that? If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

gun owners in Canada have also been notified in December that some rifles, previously legal have now been re-classified as 'prohibited' (re-classified by the police, not by legislators) and gun owners have to get rid of them themselves, or have them confiscated with no compensation. word is that since the government is on track to officially repeal the long=gun registry and destroy the files, police are anxious to do what they can to confiscate weapons before this happens. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

now that I think of it, there was a guy named Anvil who was pretty well known. And Downwind Lynn, who was grounded at several dropzones in quick succession. Turned out to be grounded at one too few one day. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I remember Skylab - cause of the rate at which he'd plummet towards the earth hawkeye - cause he looked out of the dc-3 and saw a runway number through a hole in the clouds - could have been tampa international for all we knew, but when we popped through the clouds at 3000' or so, it was indeed the right one. Treetop Tim, of course, no need for explanation peanut butter B*b Captain Koolaid I got my nickname, skypuppy, because one of my instructors said (after I fucked up on a dive again,) that trying to teach me to jump was like house-training a puppy, you had to rub their nose in it a few times till they got the idea -- then someone said 'a skypuppy' and it stuck. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

In addition, the DZO walked up to the coroner at the scene and handed him the data card from the rig on the deceased and and stated something about the AAD in the rig not matching the info on the card. Isn't that tampering? He most likely had to move the body to get the card (as a matter of fact the photos seem to back this up). __________________________________________________ I don't know about the states, but in Canada student rigs do not need to have the reserve packing card in them, as long as the information is recorded and available in a master log with all school rigs in it. If that is also the case in the states, then no, he wouldn't need to move the body in order to come up with the packing card, it would be in the loft with all the others. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Anyone know things to do and places to see around memphis -- other than graceland, I mean.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone