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hopefully tyrone is being beaten and sexually assaulted as we speak.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

my understanding is that the thousands of vertical feet of impervious stratum between the oil layers they're trying to frack and the water table much higher makes it highly unlikely that they would contaminate. Possibly if there is a breach in the pipe they're drawing oil and/or wastewater out of, but much more likely to have contamination from surface run-off of waste-water lagoons or even old gas station storage tanks up near the surface that have deteriorated. Or leaks in pipelines, or tankers are more likely to cause problems. Fracking has been going on since the 50's, it's only lately the enviro-goons have gotten turned on to it and started bad-mouthing. As far as the fracking chemicals contained in the water they inject down, the concentrations are so low percentage-wise, that they really don't enter into it. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Actually, 'a middle-class home' does describe something to me. The approximate size, a rough idea of the number of bedrooms and bathrooms, size of yeard. That term is quite descriptive. And my house is a beige middle-class home as well. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

generally we figured 1000 jumps was about it for anything F111 other than maybe a foil. Unless it was used for water jumps, which can create porosity prematurely. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

It's about keeping people happy. Just like when the cops in the Rodney King trial got off and the feds retried them, if GZ gets off, they'll do it again here, too. I cannot see him getting off of this one, regardless of whether he's innocent or not. Too much property damage would result. This is what not what I think should happen, but it is what I think WILL happen. In other words, rather one innocent man in jail than riots all over the place.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Hmmmm. You seem to have a defective memory. My understanding was that a member of the board of USPA sent a copy of an incident report (that was supposed to have been destroyed after the relevant details were entered into a database) to someone's lawyer, resulting in an action against that dropzone. Until the boards of associations are no longer made up of competing factions, incidents are best covered up as far as most dzo's (and probably the associations themselves) are concerned. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Automobiles were less expensive when they were industrialized. We didn't pick up everyone's wages so everyone would buy a custom built car. We made cars accessible to all by lowering the prices. __________________________________________________ Some of what you say is correct. Henry Ford raised a lot of ire among other industrial leaders when he decided to pay his factory workers a higher rate, partly because he wanted to increase the market for his automobiles - also partly because of the high turnover in his factories due to the nature of work on the 'new' production line. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

perhaps we need a long-knife registry? If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

read the reuters article. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

It's all right for obama to comment on a justice issue that wasn't even before the courts -- something that may have led to an innocent man being arrested, and yet this guy can't criticize obama? If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I was just going to post that as well, but it's the same story. I'm pasting some of it ... George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting Nuanced portrait emerges from his past By Chris Francescani, REUTERS SANFORD, FLA. - A pit bull named Big Boi began menacing George and Shellie Zimmerman in the fall of 2009. The first time the dog ran free and cornered Shellie in their gated community in Sanford, Florida, George called the owner t o complain. The second time, Big Boi frightened his mother-in-law’s dog. Zimmerman called Seminole County Animal Services and bought pepper spray. The third time he saw the dog on the loose, he called again. An officer came to the house, county records show. “Don’t use pepper spray,” he told the Zimmermans, according to a friend. “It’ll take two or three seconds to take effect, but a quarter second for the dog to jump you,” he said. “Get a gun.” That November, the Zimmermans completed firearms training at a local lodge and received concealed-weapons gun permits. In early December, another source close to them told Reuters, the couple bought a pair of guns. George picked a Kel-Tec PF-9 9mm handgun, a popular, lightweight weapon. By June 2011, Zimmerman’s attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime. Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun - until two months ago. On Feb. 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense. The furor that ensued has consumed the country and prompted a re-examination of guns, race and self-defense laws enacted in nearly half the United States. During the time Zimmerman was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who had decided Martin was suspicious merely because he was black. After Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old. But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman’s past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting. Based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates and co-workers of Zimmerman in two states, law enforcement officials, and reviews of court documents and police reports, the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America. The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him. A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men. Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account. “Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. “There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said. “That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.” “MIXED” HOUSEHOLD .... A NEIGHBORHOOD IN FEAR By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. Previously a family-friendly, first-time homeowner community, it was devastated by the recession that hit the Florida housing market, and transient renters began to occupy some of the 263 town houses in the complex. Vandalism and occasional drug activity were reported, and home values plunged. One resident who bought his home in 2006 for $250,000 said it was worth $80,000 today. At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting, according to the Sanford Police Department. Yet in a series of interviews, Twin Lakes residents said dozens of reports of attempted break-ins and would-be burglars casing homes had created an atmosphere of growing fear in the neighborhood. In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. Twin Lakes is about 50 percent white, with an African-American and Hispanic population of about 20 percent each, roughly similar to the surrounding city of Sanford, according to U.S. Census data. One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman’s front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters. A police report was taken, though the bicycle was not recovered. But it was the August incursion into the home of Olivia Bertalan that really troubled the neighborhood, particularly Zimmerman. Shellie was home most days, taking online courses towards certification as a registered nurse. On Aug. 3, Bertalan was at home with her infant son while her husband, Michael, was at work. She watched from a downstairs window, she said, as two black men repeatedly rang her doorbell and then entered through a sliding door at the back of the house. She ran upstairs, locked herself inside the boy’s bedroom, and called a police dispatcher, whispering frantically. “I said, ’What am I supposed to do? I hear them coming up the stairs!’” she told Reuters. Bertalan tried to coo her crying child into silence and armed herself with a pair of rusty scissors. Police arrived just as the burglars - who had been trying to disconnect the couple’s television - fled out a back door. Shellie Zimmerman saw a black male teen running through her backyard and reported it to police. After police left Bertalan, George Zimmerman arrived at the front door in a shirt and tie, she said. He gave her his contact numbers on an index card and invited her to visit his wife if she ever felt unsafe. He returned later and gave her a stronger lock to bolster the sliding door that had been forced open. “He was so mellow and calm, very helpful and very, very sweet,” she said last week. “We didn’t really know George at first, but after the break-in we talked to him on a daily basis. People were freaked out. It wasn’t just George calling police ... we were calling police at least once a week.” If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

It's been said that there had been break-ins in the area recently. We do not know how long it would have taken the police to arrive had not the shots been heard on the 911 call. It's entirely possible that the response time of the police would have been long enuf that a 'suspicious' person would have disappeared before they arrived. In that case, I see no reason why GZ should not try to keep an eye on the person who has raised his suspicions. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

GZ was also in his own neighborhood. TM was not in his own neighborhood. Sounds like GZ may indeed have had reasons to be concerned that there had indeed been crimes occurring in the neighborhood recently, and sounds to me like it might be a good idea for people in the area to keep an eye out for unusual people/situations. Also sounds like TM did have a bit of a problem with violence, and some other problems with the legal system, which perhaps his age had so far allowed him to get away with, which also may have caused him to have the attitude he would be able to get away with more. We'll find out, perhaps, if they unseal the records that show why TM received a 10-day suspension from school. I don't think that you normally get a 10-day suspension for a minor offence, or a first or second offence. I believe it would have to be something physical or a chain of events leading up to such a suspension. And the tweets on the now-deleted account seem to show that his friends believe the same thing. I'm certainly hoping that the courts will unseal the records about the suspension, but it wouldn't surprise me if they decide not to saying it's not him on trial, and that he's a minor? Although they would certainly speak to his attitude, and his character. Depends how bad they want to railroad GZ, and I think they want to railroad him bad. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

My "that poor kid" sympathy went out the window when I read those tweets of his. I can't think of any well-mannered 17 yr olds that talk like that and punch bus drivers (allegedly). __________________________________________ I hadn't heard of these tweets of his. Can you point me to them? I can't seem to find ... Found it! Sounds like he got on a bus he wasn't sposed to be on and when asked to leave, punched the driver. Sounds like. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

following a guy who you think might be up to no good, is not starting a fight. Following someone is not justification for that someone to attack you. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

Because shooting for any other reason is not a reason to shoot. 1. If you think your life is in danger, you don't have the time to pull off a trick shot. 2. If you have the time to pull off a trick shot... your life is not in danger. 3. When your life is in danger, the chance of you being able to pull off a trick shot is astronomical. Shooting to wound is next to impossible, might not stop an attacker, and legally is actually harder to defend your actions. I don't actually even know if he was shooting to kill -- I was always told to 'shoot for the centre of visible mass'. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

More likely scenario is they just hauled the stuff out into the elements so they could 'live' in the crates... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I think if you're not interested you're welcome to ignore it, not read it and not reply to it. Don't feel any pressure. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

but pure bullshit simply to prime the pump. hmmm. that sounds like someone I know.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I firmly believe there is probably a net boost in jumpers, while one or two may quit, many more will come out after hearing about a fatality, and some will stay with it. In many cases, I'm sure the number of jumps done would possibly increase, not decrease. It would certainly be up to the dzo if he shut down for a time or not. I'm sure there are lawsuits over injuries and other things as well. The number of fatalities of experienced, current jumpers w/o aads and the number of lawsuits over fatalities of experienced current jumepers w/o aads will be minimal. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

As rob said, a cdn dzo once lent a rig to someone without realizing he didn't have that factory rating, even though he did have a rating for another system. Things went bad, the student was hurt seriously and he made payments to her every year for the rest of his life.... If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

You can choose to jump or not jump with an AAD for any reason you like, but as for your "number 2" above, well-established statistics are very much against you. There are very few incidents in which an AAD misfire has caused an injury or fatality, but countless verified saves and incidents that may not have been incidents had the person had one or had the one on their rig turned on. Your comment that the possibility of an AAD being "helpful" is as "equally slight" as that of an AAD killing people is historically inaccurate and thus statistically ludicrous. If you're going to have an intelligent debate, you might at least want to have factual data on your side. Also note that I said in my post that I was not endorsing mandatory AAD use, which you implied with your comment above that I was "justifying" mandatory AAD use. I was not. If anything, I was and am justifying a DZO making any rule promoting safety he or she feels is good for the DZ. You didn't make the investment of money, effort, resources, and risk of emotional and financial ruin. The DZO did, and good for you that there are people willing to do that. Without them you don't have a sport at all. _______________________________________________ While they may be orders of magnitude difference, one still has to admit to the fact that being saved by an aad is a remote possibility for any one person who is current and experienced (we're discounting students and tandems here). As far as injuries or deaths (or incidents which are potential injuries or deaths) caused, I don't know that they're as scarce as you imply, simply because there are a substantial number of 2-out situations every year caused inadvertently by aads, which would have simply been a 'relatively low and uneventful opening' on a rig not equipped with an aad. And I think that many of these 2-out situations (some of which could lead to fatalities or injuries) are either not reported or are glossed over when it actually is the presence of the aad which caused the situation. That is not to mention the 'several' incidents of aads firing mid-swoop. So indeed, both are still rare. As far as voting with your feet, I have had to do so here in Canada. When a certain dzo brought it in he reassured everyone it would only be up to a certain experience level, but that has been eroded until now you cannot do a jump without one at his dz (only took three years to change his mind). The trend here in Canada though is for 'some' dzo's to get together and attempt to make a bsr nation-wide to bring in mandatory aads, because some are upset that if they do the policy on their own, people will go down the road to jump. So, while it is there right, misguided as it may be, to enforce mandatory aads on there own dz's, it should not be their right to change bsr's across the country so that you CANNOT vote with your feet, something they have tried to do, and I am sure, will try again. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

I'm shocked and saddened to hear this, he seemed so alive in his posts. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

short answer, yes. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone

You're assuming everyone voted for him because he's half-black. Open your mind to the possibility that people voted for him because he was the best choice available. Not everyone, but certainly enuf to put him over the top. I don't believe he was the best choice. If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone