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What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Hey you must be a lawyer for one of the DZOs. Otherwise you are just a good samaritan, and I suggest you apply for the Nobel Peace Prize. Besides... you will notice that I have said: "don't whine unless you have done something about it. If you have done something then by all means whine!" Then a question... jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Welcome to the skydiving world. You are now a fun jumper i.e.: a bottom feeder in the hierarchy. You will find that you come last after tandems, vidiots, AFF student/instructor arrangements, sky gods and Friends of the Rabbit. Get used to it, or otherwise complain to the DZO about the service levels. One more thing: if anyone tells you that they run the DZ blow profit or non-profit…tell them to go BS someone else, alternatively to sign up for the now vacant post of Mother Theresa jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
You would never find a Lawyer willing to take on the case. There just isnt enough money involved. A lawsuit (Any Lawsuit) at the federal level will take years and cost tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. SDA (Arizona) filed a Suit against them over a year ago and they still are not even through the discovery phase. I cant even imagine how much they have spent in legal fees already. Please read this post to see what has been going on. And if nothing else, Read the Attached deposition to that post. It explains in detail exactly why people Hate Skyride. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2454579#2454579 Regarding the said deposition: 1. Interesting language: I see nothing wrong in a businessperson closely supervising his staff. Seems reasonable actually 2. The Yellow Pages issue is unclear to me. If he placed adds for his business nationwide, then kudos to him. If he has not paid for the adds, well excuse me but that seems to be a legal matter between Yellow Pages and the dude. 3. With regards to using a fictitious name: most of the outsourced call centers for Fortune 500 companies instruct their employees to use fictitious names. After all we don’t want to talk to Rajeev, Jagdesh or Preebanka. It’s their atrocious accents that tell us where we called. 4. As to the customers driving for hours and hours…please how daft can you be? 5. Misrepresentation to callers about the location of the Skydiving Center based on caller ID identification is false advertisement and can be prosecuted. 6. As to the weather…show me one DZ that says that the weather sucks when you call… . 7. The girls working at the Phone Bank apparently complained about lying to customers but did nothing about it. Hence, they really were accomplices. If they knew it was morally wrong and yet kept doing it…, please! 8. Lisa Pugh… vide above. I am pretty sure the persuasion that kept her in the job despite her moral torture had a was in form of a few delightful pieces of paper with the picture of Benjamin Franklin in the center. 9. Being a booking agent requires the consent of the service providing party. If they in fact were booking skydiving services for a certain region, then there must have been consent from local DZOs. 10. Point 21 is especially humorous: the dude complains he was only paid $30 for a jump. With all due respect, it’s a free country. If he knew that skyride was raking the hay in and he felt underpaid he should have re-negotiated. 11. All in all Jim seems to be a funny guy, but this deposition is in my opinion of little value. A disgruntled employee who has beef with former employer. My point is that if you want to do something against SkyRide…do it profesionally jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
No that sound like false representation to me. I bet there are enough misguided skydivers to start a class action suit... . Just thinking creatively here. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Wow! Competition! Perhaps I should open up a chain of fast food restaurants and call it "McDonalds." After all, it's just competition. Come on, hans. You know the difference between "competition" and "infringement." Competition and free markets only work when there is honesty. By the way, how's the wee bairn? I knnow the difference well and that is why I actually posted here. You are the legal proffesional here so correct me (I am making certain assumptions here): Internet infringement and/or theft of intellectual property is a federal felony. Why has nobody thought of that. Unless of course there was no real infringement as names, numbers and internet domains were not registered and free for grabs. In that case I call that the brutal laws of free economy. If McDonalds did not register their trademark and graphics, you can bet your last dollar I would immediately find investor to open a chain of McDonalds and I would register all intellectual property. It happened with a lot of internet domains in Central Eastern Europe, and McDonalds was one of the actually. They had to buy back the rights to their own brand names for a pretty penny from a few smart dudes. (I am not addressing the ethical part of that here) Last but not least...the spawn of Satan is a danger to himself and everybody around jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
All I can say is that you run an interesting business model. Obviously you have your reasons to do it that way. It is your business, so it is not my place to give you advice on how to run it. (Unless you wan't to...after all that is my livelyhood) jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Hey that is a stall rate close to that of a Fiessler Storch. I once flew in one backwords. The winds at 3,000 feet were faster than the forward speed of the plane giving us negative ground speed. It also takes 70 feet to lift it off the ground! jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
We agree as to some principles. We disagree on some. If a DZ after wages, fuel and depreciation makes $4 on a $23 jump ticket I don't call that a sale at cost, I call it a healthy 17.4% margin. Given that you will have a tandem on the same jump, probably a vidiot in addition, then maybe an AFF student (say we are talking of a caravan or kingair or with stretch a porter) you are winding up with a decent margin mix. I am not saying that DZOs are millionaires, but they usually are not scraping dimes at month’s end. The inability of DZOs to work something out with Skyride is interesting. You can sue a US corporation from Canada. Rules have changed and you can sue corporate officers too. You don’t need to make it from Atlanta. Stealing and cloning a website as it involves interstate commerce is a federal crime in the United States. Corporate officers are directly responsible for any criminal activity their corporation may be involved in. Don’t take my word, talk to a lawyer. Don’t whine, do something about it. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
First of all please let me start with this firm statement: I am not a professional skydiver and I never want to be one. It is my pastime and my fun. You say that Skyride skims the profits of DZOs. Well why is it so? Do you have to accept their certificates? Do you have a contract with them? If you don’t then you don’t need to honor these certificates. That’s it, no need to share profits with them. If they take business away from you, that is called competition. No need to love your competition, but it’s your business. If they take business away from you through false advertising and through unauthorized use of someone’s images – that is an unfair trade practice and by all means sue, sue, sue! Don’t whine about it, do something. (no if you have in fact sued, then I accept the need to whine) I never saw the prices of jump tickets go down. Also when there is less tandem business, DZOs start appreciating fun jumpers a little more. If Skyride directs business from one DZ to another, then that once again is called competition. The bottom line is that it truly should be a DZO business to do something about Skyride. As is it appears to me that some DZOs are going along with it (honoring the certificates) and some are not. Once again that is competition. Some DZs will grow, some will fail. If you are trying to tell me that because of Skyride you as the DZO are not providing me with a quality service, then I call that a lame excuse As for the stories of DZOs accepting Skyride certificates and loosing money on that just to take someone under their wings and introduce them to the sport… well you will allow me to put that among other funny anecdotes. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
When it comes to DZs it is demand that regulates where and when they come to existance. If there are enough skydivers in a place, there will be a DZ. If there are enough potential tandem passangers there will be a DZ. Since so much is said...please tell me which DZs in particular did Skyride put out of business. Not that I care about Skyride one way or the other..., and your DZ is your business, so cry me a river with your 10 years and more jumps jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
AN 2 Colt - Single-engine biplane utility transport. One 1000 hp. Shvetsov Ash-62IR radial engine. Take off mass 5250kg. First flew in 1947. Fun club: phones: +7(0572)44-26-21, +7(0572)97-45-88; e-mail: eastga@kharkov.com; "General Aviation", Kharkov, UA. A biplane transport, used since 1947 with great succes and in many countries, despite its apparent obsolescence. Over 18000 may have been built. The An-2 was used as STOL transport, for training, as firefighting aircraft, as agricultural aircraft, and in many other roles. The An-2 has also been built as floatplane (An-4); the normal wheeled landing gear can easily be interchanged with skis. There is a meteorological version with a cabin in front of the tailfin (An-6), and a An-2F experimental artillery spotter, with a extensively glazed aft fuselage and a slender tail boom with twin fins. For agricultural purposes a turboprop-engined version, the An-3 (SKh, "Selsko-Khosiajstwennij" = "Agricultural"), was created recently. The prototype of the An-2, designed to a specification of the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry of the USSR, made its first flight on 31 August 1947. In 1948 the aircraft went into production in the USSR as the An-2, with a 746 kW (1000 hp) ASh-62 engine. By 1960, more than 5000 An-2s had been built in the Soviet Union, as fully described in previous editions of Jane's. Licence rights were granted to China, where the first locally produced An-2 was completed in December 1957, as the Yunshuji-5 or Y-5. Limited production continues in China, as described under the SAP heading in that section. Since 1960, apart from a few dozen Soviet built An-2Ms (1971-72 Jane's), continued production of the An-2 has been primarily the responsibility of PZL Mielec, the original licence arrangement providing for two basic versions: the An-2T transport and An-2R agricultural version. The first Polish built An-2 was flown on 23 October 1960. Mielec has since built more than 11950 An-2s for domestic use and for export to the USSR (10427), Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Egypt, France, the then German Democratic Republic, Hungary, Iraq, North Korea, Mongolia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Romania, Sudan, Tunisia, Turkey, the UK, Venezuela and Yugoslavia. They include 7777 An-2Rs. In 1989 AICSA of Colombia (which see) assembled two An-2s from kits supplied from PZL Mielec via Pezetel. Polish built versions have different designations from those built in the USSR. They include the An-2 Geofiz; An-2LW; An-2P, PK, P-Photo and PR; An-2R; An-2S; An-2T, TD and TP. Further details of these can be found in the 1983-84 and earlier editions of Jane's. AN 3 Colt - The An-3 is a turboprop-engined (TVD-20 or TVD-1500SKh) development of old the An-2 transport biplane, first flown in 1984. A rather unique concept, the An-3 was built because the jet-engined M-15 biplane did not stand up to the rigours of agricultural work. Sertification expected by April'2000 in "Polyot" Enterprise, Omsk. Convertion price up to USD500K (TVD-20 engine costs about USD200K) at 30% prepayment and 5..6 monthes delivery. Estimated market about 2000 aircrafts from Latin America, Iraq, Cuba, Hungary, and Yugoslavia plus numerous An-2 from CIS. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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Dude, don't do it!!! Them things fly through the sky and you might fall out. Stay on the ground, stay safe! jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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What can we do about Skyride?
jraf replied to ChasingBlueSky's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Yep, people get alll emotional about skyride. I have a somewhat different look at that: I don't won a DZ. The PIA (Parachute Industry Association) is well organized. Why don't you let them take care of their own problems. To active skydivers Skyride is just a curiosity, why get all bent out of shape about an internal PIA problem? jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Gawd that looks awful - I saw a modified SkyVan with a nose radar dome at Destin Airport in Destin, FL last summer. That of course was even ugler. Now when it comes to the AN 3 production, I think that the Turboprop engine might have been a slight overkill for the airframe i.e.: airframe modifications to tolerate the power must have made the production of this rather exotic plane financially prohibitive. Also, think about the fact that it is a bi-plane. A larger engine might not make it that much faster due to the drag...I leave that one to aviation engineers though. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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Dude, that is some serious DZ car you have there. As much as the AN2 is a true exotic and one of these days I want to log a jump out of one, I think that Id preffer to take my chances with a C-182. After all a 182 will take you to 13,500 feet (Gawdawfull long ride it is) while the AN2 will not. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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There is an AN 2 in the bushes at Sebastian airport in FL. It does not look very flyable. Then again the last Cessna I jumped out of did not look very flyable either jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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You are talking about the post Sept. 11 BuildingSaver are you not? jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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It is an Antonov indeed. It's got skids instead of wheels cause its a real winter jump. Its got the full red star on the tail. The song is the song of Soviet Paratroopers and the guy in the last shot is weraing a Soviet para helmet. Cool. I am just not sure why theu bothered with the hand deployed belly mounts. There is no way they would have time to throw that entire thing out. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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Now this is some low opening footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLOQ0ra6fr0 Real old school stuff. Quality music. No Bull Shit jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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Life eez goot! We have two cars with a empty curb weight of over 6,000 lbs each. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275
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Titusville Manifest and Sky Gods new deployment altitudes
jraf replied to jraf's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I have already won. Now I am just polishing the laurel. If you want to know why...PM me. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Titusville Manifest and Sky Gods new deployment altitudes
jraf replied to jraf's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Of themore than 40 dzs I have been to only Titusville was unfriendly (and more than once) and it got put in my 'dont go there' category. Now I don't know why I should not warn other jumpers about it. jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Titusville Manifest and Sky Gods new deployment altitudes
jraf replied to jraf's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Dear Greg, I am happy you finally decided to talk to me, be it on this public forum even though you were copied on my message to the USPA Executive Board. I find it somewhat disturbing that you would not address me back through email. I am very happy, dear Mr. Nardi that you have made my name public. Anyone on this site could see it for themselves from my profile. You however seem to have issues with your reading skills. I suggest ‘Hooked on Phonics’ My name is Hans Saykowitz. I have had my B license for a little more than Jan. 2006, but neither do you have any idea about it nor should you. After all you allow unlicensed jumpers to jump at your DZ for years. You will also note that I am a licensed jumper and so weather it is a B license or a D license that makes me no worse a person. You are also wrong as to the total jump numbers I have but that goes with your general state of confusion. Your senior staff (many with well 10,000 jumps) as you put it, opens their container at 4,000 feet AGL or higher, so their perception may be just a little blurred. Unless of course they have the retina implanted laser meter or large measuring stick I have mentioned previously. Also, correct me if I’m wrong but it appears that of the few employees you have at Titusville only one in fact sports 10,000 jumps or more. For all under 10,000 jumps I suggest the altitude measuring stick available at www.callhans.com Once again you question my integrity by saying that I pulled below 2,000 feet. I take offense to that so let me tell you the following my dear friend: since you were not there you have no idea what happened i.e.: you are clueless. All you have is hearsay. Not a very good point of reference, my dear friend. Incidentally, the manifestor you so love was rude to me. Apparently from what people have told me (people who were affected) she has a godlike tendency. Then again you are her boss so I am sure she is sweet as molasses to you. Who am I to teach you about skydiving but let us go through my pull sequence: At 4,500 I hear my Pro Dytter and go flat. I look at my altimeter and wave off. As the indicator approaches the bright yellow wedge on my Alti 2 I pull. I will let you do the calculation and hopefully the many thousands of skydives you made have not blurred your perception abilities. In other words you might think you know shit from mustard but you may have eaten crap instead of sausage – I am drinking to your excellent divagation with regards to what people think when they wave off. You say that “they will look at their altimeter at 3,000 feet and begin their pull sequence. By the time they decide to pull, reach back, find their pilot chute, throw their pilot chute, and after the a normal deployment, they can be below 2000 feet”. Even if that were true my deployment altitude still would be above the 2,500 foot AGL altitude proscribed for me in the BSRs, so your point is what? Let me refresh your oh, so experienced memory – 2,500 feet AGL container opening altitude i.e. even if that were true I still would have been within my USPA prescribed right. Now to your obvious advertising of your DZ – if you jump from 15,000 feet, assuming that you are flat flying how do you come up with 70 seconds of freefall. Given 3,000 foot deployment altitude and average speed of 120 mph, you still are at least 5 seconds short. But of course you know that (I did include the10 second initial 1,000 feet, even though at 15,000 feet due to air density differences it does not amount to more than 7 seconds.) Addressing the issue of me not having a Cypress – dear Nardi, does that make me any lesser of a jumper? Tell me, oh tell me please? You don’t require an AAD at your DZ so what the fuck (I am so sorry but I sometimes get so emotional) are you talking about. If you want to drag out personal details my little pumpkin then I will bring up your issues with the immigration authorities. Now I realize that some people with 15,000 or 25,000 jumps not only loose their hearing but also their brain cells. You see being at high altitudes for extended periods often makes you delusional. Now delusion often leads to the perception of being close to God. Greg Nardi you are not God. You are a businessperson who makes his money out of skydiving services. Your services stink. You have no balls to call me or email me, even tough I have emailed you. You have not S&TA at your DZ. Your staff members are rude. So in conclusion to use the words of Leonardo da Vinci - the father of all parachute jumps: Veiled PA removed by slotperfect jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Titusville Manifest and Sky Gods new deployment altitudes
jraf replied to jraf's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I am alowed a nice meatball pasta dinner with an old skydiving friend am I not? Response to Mr. Nardi follows soon BTW. the meatballs I made were ....Nardilicious jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275 -
Titusville Manifest and Sky Gods new deployment altitudes
jraf replied to jraf's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Yes, I remember who advised you to do so in order to avoid the overcharge... jraf Me Jungleman! Me have large Babalui. Muff #3275