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Samarra: soldier's e-mail devastates Pentagon's account "The convoy which was attacked while driving through Samarra was not a supply convoy as reported, but was carrying large amounts of new Iraqi currency to stock local Iraqi banks and US greenbacks used to pay for goods and services the US forces need to accomplish their missions in Iraq. This convoy was heavily guarded by Abrams Tanks and Bradley Fighting Vehicles. It was akin to a huge Brinks Truck delivery. The reports of 54 enemy killed will sound great on the home front, but the greater story is much more disturbing and needs to be told to the American Public. When we received the first incoming rounds, all I could think of was how the hell did the Iraqis (most of these attackers being criminals, not insurgents) find out about this shipment? This was not broadcast on the local news, but Iraqi police knew about it. Bing, Bing Bing, You do the math. Of greater importance in the scale of the attack and the co-ordination of the two operations. Iraqi Rebel Guerrilla Units elements still retain the ability to conduct synchronized operations despite the massive overwhelming firepower 'Iron Hammer' offensive this month. Hack, most of the casualties were civilians, not insurgents or criminals ... During the ambushes the tanks, brads and armored Humvees hosed down houses, buildings, and cars while using reflexive fire against the attackers. One of the precepts of 'Iron Hammer' is to use an Iron Fist when dealing with the insurgents. As the division spokesman is telling the press, we are responding with overwhelming firepower and are taking the fight to the enemy. The response to these well co-ordinated ambushes was as one would expect. The convoy continued to move, shooting at ANY target that appeared to be a threat. RPG [rocket-propelled grenade] fire from a house, the tank destroys the house with main gun fire and hoses the area down with 7.62 and 50cal MG fire. Rifle fire from an alley, the brads fire up the alley and fire up the surrounding buildings with 7.62mm and 25mm HE rounds. This was actually a rolling firefight through the entire town. The ROE [rules of engagement] under 'Iron Fist' is such that the US soldiers are to consider buildings, homes, cars to be hostile if enemy fire is received from them (regardless of who else is inside). It seems to many of us this is more an act of desperation ... We really don't know if we kill anyone, because we don't stick around to find out ... the logic is to respond to attacks using our superior firepower to kill the rebel insurgents. This is done in many cases knowing that there are people inside these buildings or cars who may not be connected to the insurgents. The belief in superior firepower as a counter-insurgency tactic is then extended down to the average Iraqi, with the hope that the Iraqis will not support the guerrillas and turn them in to coalition forces, knowing we will blow the hell out of their homes or towns if they don't. Of course in too many cases, if the insurgents bait us and goad us into leveling buildings and homes, the people inside will then hate us (even if they did not before) and we have created more recruits for the guerrillas. The Commander of the 3rd Brigade Combat Team, Colonel Frederick Rudesheim, said after this battle that 'We are going to continue to take the fight to this enemy. This is the most significant contact we have had to date in the city of Samarra. We are going to have to respond accordingly.' This is a great attitude for a combat commander to have when fighting an armored force, but Colonel Rudesheim is not trained in Counter-Insurgency and my soldiers are taking the heat. We drive around in convoys, blast the hell out of the area, break down doors and search buildings; but the guerrillas continue to attack us. It does not take a George Patton to see we are using the wrong tactics ... Much of Samarra is fairly well shot up. The tanks and brads rolled over parked cars and fired up buildings where we believed the enemy was. This must be expected considering the field of vision is limited ... Not all the people in this town were hostile, but we did see many people firing from rooftops or alleys that looked like civilians, not the Feddayeen reported in the press. I even saw Iraqi people throwing stones at us, I told my soldiers to hold their fire unless they could indentfy [sic] a real weapon. Since we did not stick around to find out, I am very concerned in the coming days we will find we killed many civilians as well as Iraqi irregular fighters. I would feel great if all the people we killed were all enemy guerrillas, but I can't say that. We are probably turning many Iraqi against us and I am afraid instead of climbing out of the hole, we are digging ourselves in deeper." A Combat Leader See. www.hackworth.com Or the Independent newspaper UK. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Couldn't agree more. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Thanks for making it clicky. What this model doesn't show though is the casualty rate and deaths of the US troops. How many in November alone? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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http://www.newsgaming.com/games/index12.htm When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Yea millions hate Americans but not only Muslims hate Americans, people of all religions across the world hate America and Americans. Being honest I heard quite a few white anglo saxon christian Brits saying that America got a taste of its own medicine on 9/11. (I neither hate Americans nor condone in anyway the attrocities of 9/11, just making a point here). When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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What do you mean WAS to big? LOL... Still not much bigger now eh? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Last Jan it was -40 at altitude here in the UK, dampness was the least of my worries. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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You did the right thing. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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I think maybe you can't see the wood for the trees here. Sadam Hussien is not as big a treat to Iraq, the region or the world as Wahibi Islamic fundamentalism. I was against this war from the start. Now though we simply can't pull out unless we want to see lebonon part two. Besides which Bush can't let down his oil buddies. So he's got what he wants......A war without end. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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LMFAO When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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My name is Jamile and I bombard the general public with radiation. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Don't know how old she is but shes a babe and a half! Pity theres no photo of the offending incident! Woohoo! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Tell your friend..'Judge not lest ye be judged'. EvenChrist was tempted. Being tempted doesn't mean you're condemed. How long has she been a Christian? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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'Words mean things.' ......................Is that a quote from President Bush? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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You know your a real skydiver when.......(continued)
Skyrad replied to SkyAnt's topic in The Bonfire
3) Currency is measured only in jumps! ie: How much? Grief thats ten jumps! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
You know your a real skydiver when.......(continued)
Skyrad replied to SkyAnt's topic in The Bonfire
2) The year before you started to jump you were £10,000 in the black now you're not only in the red but get chirstmas and birthday cards from the credit card company. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca -
Without a doubt John, Pete, Steve,Tom (and Toby) of Sebastian XL. Not only for what they do in the air but for who they are on the ground. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Great story. I like the Vietnamese story best it sound more likely than the others. I thought maybe it was from Hoorah! OK so whats the deal with Semper fi? Thats a US Marine thing right? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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HOOAH ....................As in "HOOAH SIR!" What the hell does that mean anyway? What the origins of it? Is it just a US Marine thing a Army Rangers thing or and American thing? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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It make a change if they wern't! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Now personaly if I was one of the men that would have walked into the ambush then I'd think this man is a hero. So the prisoner was kicked about and had a weapon fired near is head, ok so maybe not model behaviour but it did get the results. Its a war, not a game of tiddly winks. However......Whats good for the goose is good enough for the gander. If this kind of behaviour is acceptable by the US forces then Americans can't bitch when their boys and girls have the shit kicked out of them and go through mock executions either. Personaly I think I may have acted in the same way in his position. BTW...What the hell does HOOAH mean? Whats its origins and why the hell does it get yelled in every film with American soldier in????????????? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Body Rugby or Football When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Words fail me........... When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Col. North an unsung hero! Remember.......Remember.........Remember damn it!