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Just another attention seeker. If anyone is cashing in on 911 its this man who is simply using the publicity about the Mosque to cash in. As far as his 'business idea' goes its nonsence. But if people are stupid enough to invest in this idea then they deserve to lose thier money for being moronic As for someone opening a gay bar in New York, no big deal. But opening one next to a Mosque and expecting to get 'Islamic men' to go into it... Plain stupid. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Japan has not forgotten what the Americans did to it at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, nor have the Americans forgiven it for Pearl Harbor. It is not necessary to forget and forgive; it is merely necessary to act in a civilized fashion and internalize the fact that there is always a time to rend and a time to sew. David Ben-Gurion and Moshe Sharett understood this as well: It was not merely for the sake of the reparation payments that they decided to turn over a new leaf in Israel's relations with Germany. But nevertheless, there is something about America, and there is an extra something about New York. Last week, a public committee decided unanimously to permit a large Islamic center, which will include a mosque, to be built adjacent to Ground Zero. The voices of those who were opposed, who compared the initiative to allowing an idol in the Temple, were drowned out by the voices of those who supported it. There is nothing more annoying than the assertion that "all Jews are the same," or alternatively, "all Zionists are the same." Zionism, like Judaism, was never all cut from the same cloth, or forged of the same spirit, and in recent generations, these differences have become even more pronounced. Like every movement for national self-determination, Zionism too has beautiful aspects as well as some rather ugly ones. Everyone who identifies with it chooses the way he wishes it to look. And sometimes, we do what is hateful to us to 1.5 billion Muslims as well. Like us, they are not all cut from the same cloth, nor do they all think the same way. Not all of them are members of the Taliban or Al-Qaida; most of them are horrified at the sight of towers collapsing on those inside them, or noses or ears that have been cut off and little girls' eyes that have been gouged out on the way to school. Sharif El-Gamal, for example, who initiated the plan for the Islamic center near Ground Zero, represents hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers - doctors and lawyers, teachers and students, policemen and firemen - who consider Mohammed their prophet. He himself belongs to the Jewish community center on Manhattan's Upper East Side. "My sister-in-law is Jewish," he says, "and this year, I was blessed with my first Jewish niece." It is not clear what gremlin got into Abraham Foxman, head of the Anti-Defamation League, who was at the forefront of those denouncing the plan as a "provocation." Why be in such a hurry to reject a building whose founders say it is intended to promote interfaith dialogue? After all, they promised that "extremism will have no place here." Any responsible person must reach out to every moderate, while at the same time distancing and condemning every extremist. Those who conflate people of good intentions with those of evil intentions, whether by commission or omission, will return the world to a state of chaos and lead it to Sodom. That is Europe's mistake: It is pushing Turkey into Iran's arms. That is also the mistake being made by former Likud prime minister Yitzhak Shamir's successors, who continue chanting that "the sea is the same sea and the Arabs are the same Arabs" - which, of course, is akin to other abominable statements like "all Muslims are the same." Perhaps it is the Jews who sometimes constitute the best proof that there is no inoculation against anti-Semitism. http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/a-mosque-in-the-temple-1.307734 A very good article written by a Jewish man in an Israeli Paper about the Mosque near(ish) 'ground zero' When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

What about Dr's, Nurses, Radiographers etc? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

That is a naive delusional belief. That I agree with if you're talking about injury or the ultimate sacrifice. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Abso..bloody...lutly When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Do you want a round of applause? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

It was always so. During the 'reign' of the Provisional IRA they reguarly carried out bank jobs and organised crime in the Republic of Ireland to fund Terrorism in Northern Ireland. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I believe so When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Google searches say no. Mr. Hauge wasn’t foreign secretary during the most recent Hanukkah or Diwali; the previous foreign minister, David Milbrand, did for both. Couldn't find anything for the Buddhists tho'. /Marg Good point - I didn't think about when he took office. What about Haunnaka What is Haunnaka? (And guys: it's Hague.) Its a type of honey. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

As barely a day goes by now without yet another act of terrorism in Ireland (the latest being yesterday when three small children were injured by a Republican bomb) http://www.independent.ie/national-news/bomb-injures-three-schoolchildren-as-more-security-alerts-issued-in-north-2297952.html The Irish Sunday Independant today gives an acount of the reality of todyas IRA. http://www.independent.ie/national-news/rira-expanding-its-crime-empire-2297954.html This is the true situation in Ireland today. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

LOL Facebook When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Actually I don't know John, I don't think that he's been in the job long enough to. In fact I've never seen a Ramadan message from the FS before. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

William Hauge former leader of the Conservative Party and now Foreign Secatary for the UK gives his Ramadan address to Muslims. http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/news/latest-news/?view=News&id=22677359 Thats nice, good tosee him recognising the valuable contribution that Muslims make in the UK

This has proven to be equally true of you and your side. Selective facts, generalizations, head in the sand. Few of us here have lived with a real prospect of being genocided out of existence. Any native Americans here? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

I'm so sick of the whole Israel Vs Iran hate fest. I wish we could get the leaders of both countries put them on a small island somewhere and keep them there until they either sort out their differences or kill each other, and quite frankly I'm not to bothered which. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

And people go on about the Quran When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Good point Jeannie. I can guarantee you that if we destroyed Mecca they woudnt let us build a Church a few blocks away. Well, Saudi Arabia's laws are far different than ours and much less tolerant. I am a HUGE fan of live and let live.... trouble is.. there are WAY too many people not willing to let me live my life as I see fit... in the Kindom of SAUD... ( yeah been there ... it sucked donkey balls) and in this country we have a large segment of the population that only pays lip service to those catchie little buzzwords of religious tolerance... equality for all male and female... and on and on.. As well you know Jeannie Saudi Arabia is a totalitarian regime which uses it own perverted brand of Islam to support it, even bloody Al Queida doesn't recognize it as a Muslim state. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Firstly I would argure that there is no truely Muslim states, nationalism take prescedence in every case. The Arab countries are run by totalitarian regimes that are propt up by the USA and UK. As for Pakistan, you are woefully misinformed, pakistan is currently in a state of virtual civil war (not so virtual in some areas) the Pakistani Army has lost thousands of men fighting the extremists and Taliban the Presidents wife was even murdered by them. As for the Taliban lets not forget who trained them, supplied them and fundeded them the USA via the ISA of Pakistan. The USA was very happy to support the twisted theology of Wahibisim. Like a idiot who buys a tiger cub because its cute and fluffy and then is shocked when it grow up and turns on them. Obviously you have no idea at what is going on in Pakistan. Karachi is currently locked down following a terrorist assisnation. http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/metropolitan/04-karachi-lockdown-remains-qs-01 When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean its not happeneing. http://atheism.about.com/b/2004/11/26/20000-muslims-demonstrate-against-terror.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6279416.stm http://syedmdasadullah.blogspot.com/2010/06/muslim-women-stage-march-against.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10900478 http://www.danielpipes.org/1775/moderate-muslims-march-in-phoenix http://ibnlive.in.com/news/indian-muslims-unite-against-terror-hold-peace-march/80002-3.html http://www.aimislam.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4020-march-against-wahhabi-terrorism/ http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/03/free-muslims-march-against-terror http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm http://www.freemuslims.org/ http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm http://www.maat.r8.org/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3586703.stm http://www.int-review.org/terr42a.html http://www.awesomelibrary.org/Muslims.html http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php Muslims are not collectivly responsible for the acts of murder committed by twisted individuals any more than Christians are for the muders comitted during the Crusades or any more than Americans are for the actions of some twisted individuals who disgraced their uniforms and country by committing war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

The vast majority of Muslims are and do publicly and loudly distance themselves from extremists (Funadmentalists by definition believe in the fundamentals of a religion and murder is not a fundamental belieif of Islam (look up the five pillars of Islam these are the fundamentals of Islam). The problem is that the media is not interested in Muslims against terrorists it doesn't sell. It doesn't mean that it isn't happening though. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

If a Catholic Priest stood up and said "Kill all the Jews" that priest would be excommunicated. Not that Catholics are perfect and have never done any wrong. Just saying they wouldnt allow that type of talk now days. Plus they are two busy screwing little boys to worry about anything else right now. Seeing as Pope Benedict XVI the supreme moralathority for the Catholic Church is a former member of the Hitler Youth; and the Catholic church is riddled with examples of collaboration and support for the Nazis I find you assertation dubious. http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

They like to build Mosques on conquered ground. its a slap in the face to build one by the WTC. If they have affiliations with Terror groups, they should be shut down. I believe that the group in NYC has a leader that supports known terror groups. Why should he be allowed to preach terror here in the U.S.? If muslims want a good name for their religion then they need to stand up to these freaking terrorists and do something about it. Clean out their own garbage. I hate to say this, but we as a country are to stupid to see when we are being invaded, and yes we are being invaded. Judging Muslims on the basis of some terrorists is like judging Christians onthe basis of the Westboro Baptist Church and the Davidians. Cop on. As for being invaded, what Native american tribe do you belong to? When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

That's only the code used by liberals to alter the meaning of words from conservatives in order to create a strawman argument with which to bash them. It's the same way when a conservative talks about stopping illegal immigration, and the liberals then accuse them of being bigots who are opposed to all immigrants. Really, you guys look pathetic playing that unseemly switcharoo game. When I say "mosques with ties to terrorism", I'm only talking about mosques with ties to terrorism. That seems like a very simple concept to me. But it's not good enough for liberals, because there's nothing there they can disagree with. So they have to play games and invent a way to attack you, by making it look like you're a racist who is against all "brown skin" people and all mosques. Pathetic. You guys should spend more time fighting our true enemies, instead of fighting people just because they're conservatives. Closing down Mosques (or any other buildings) that are used by terrorists as meeting places is a bad idea. If you close them they simply will meet elsewhere. Much better to infiltrate and use as an opportunity to gather information to disrupt their operations. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

OK Quade, you're right Polar Bears are definatly way cooler than Werewolves, Vampire or even Leprechauns. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca

Chuck noris couldn't beat a Werewolf in a fight Can't believe you went there... A werewolf wouldnt stand a chance! Roundhouse kick to the upper canines, and down for the count. Asked and answered You had to go bringing the Zomies into didn't you! When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca