mrshutter45

Attached is a copy of the entire DB Cooper plane ticket. I don't know what the procedures were back then, but some of the ticket appears to be typed and some of it appears to be handwritten.... the handwritten parts looks like last minute items that were added such as the Dan Cooper name. In addition to the last minute handwriting there appears to be a last minute stamp of "used Nov 24 71 305" (stamp slanted at an angle) I think Cooper might have been one of the last people on the plane. Maybe this is why the ticket guy hand wrote his name. Again, I don't know what the usual procedures were. yes, he was one of the last on the plane. he is comparing the ticket to the 4 letters sent after the hijacking. he also claims to have something from 1958 that belongs to KC. he also said he has multiple signatures of KC. how much of this is true, nobody knows at this point. his story is very strange and hard to swallow. perhaps it's time to call someone on this. I know just the person to find answers he is trying to conceal. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

for those who get confused about Navigational maps or even route maps. here is a flight plan document. (see photo) What you put down on that form is far more than just more paperwork. It's an insurance policy that indicates you've done your homework. It could also have a significant payout. if you don't file a flight plane it could be hours or days before someone knows you are missing. a paper form of GPS you could say "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Never heard of such WW 2 boots. Amazon? Airtwardo? Guru? These Whuffos really get gear configuration all twisted up. Imagine Cooper outfitted by them. Spring loaded jump boots, chest reserve clipped on over the NB 8 container on the jumpers back, the only thing we are missing is the Bell Jet Pack. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_pack Sending my Cooper twenty to the museum tomorrow. They have a very fine exhibit set up. I love public museums. Glad to help with this. Snow offered to loan some original 71 NWA schedules one which shows Coopers flight. They already had one. I offered my vintage Seafirst bank bag but they had one of these too. Offered my NB 8 rig. Ditto. 377 he also claims that he was trying to put the money in the reserve chute. but wouldn't fit. he said there was D-rings on the harness and attached the dummy chute to the harness?? he said evidence shows a "paratrooper knife" was used to cut the cords vs a standard pocket type of knife. the only sense he really made was some connections to the letters. he goes off the chart again claiming Cooper put his name on the ticket. he said the FBI agreed to this. he stated that the agents would not fill the tickets out over and over with each passenger they confront. he has some really wild connections with McCoy's jump and Cooper's jump. he stated he has been involved with the case for 23 years. his book is coming out very soon. he told me he would send me a copy. he claims the FBI has grown tired of the case, but continues to claim they are closing the case 11/24/13 why would they pick that day if they were tired of the case? this guy seems to have more flags than what was seen in the first Gulf war seems to me that he has a very small window to claim the evidence he will be presenting. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

why don't you just take an ad out in the local newspaper about your worries about safety. those articles you constantly bring up were brought on by you. seems to me this is a personal issue you need to handle off this thread. I don't really care who you linked it to. Quade seems to know Knoss made a lot of those posts. he's still here. you are the only one bringing up things that happened dating as far back as 2011 if not mistaken. phone threats are your problem. people raging and teasing you on other sites are also your problem. these things happen for a reason. obviously you can't see why they are happening or understand why they happen. the bottom line is they are not related to Cooper. they surround you. when I was ghost hunting I also saved the comments. should I constantly post the ones where they said I was a child molester? how much dirty laundry can we post? I rocked the boat by showing there tricks on camera. you seem to constantly rub people the wrong way inviting this behavior. take all of your problems and post them in your local newspaper where it would help you feel more safe. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm thinking she would have noticed boots as opposed to shoes, also. Plus, the boots here http://qmfashion.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/paratrooper-jump-boots-americas-first-symbol-of-eliteness-and-fashions-most-experienced-boot/ don't seem to be that elevated. at any point was the rear stairs down while the plane was fueling? he made an extremely wild accusation that took place during the money exchange with Tina coming aboard. I told him they would of taken him out if he was visible from the outside. I'm going to check my newspaper clippings, but I recall Hal Williams stating he wrote Coopers name on the ticket. Paul claims he only typed things on the ticket. you can clearly see the agent wrote several things on the ticket by hand. I explained the fact of him asking for the note back is proof enough the FBI has no writing of Cooper's. he is matching the ticket with the 4 letters sent and something with KC's handwriting from 1958. I also found myself doing this a couple years ago until someone told me Cooper signed nothing. some similarities can be found in these letters. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I tried to get him to come on here, but he didn't seem interested. some of his claims were pretty far out there. he claims KC wore a wig. this has been discussed many times over. he also claims he had WW2 spring loaded jumping boots. this was after I asked him how Tina (same height) was able to look up at him. Tina gave a pretty detailed description of Coopers footwear. surely she would have noticed any type of elevated type shoes. he was positive that Cooper wrote his name on the ticket. he was also positive Carr has not been taken off the case. he claims the FBI agreed the ticket was signed by Cooper? the bills that were basically black came from being in the mud on the Lewis river 4 years prior to Tina Bar. he said something about the silver on the bills will match sediments to the Lewis river. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If Geivett thinks KC is DB Cooper - Geivett is also claiming McCoy knew KC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9xPQ8NtDwU A post by Geivett at youtube 2 weeks ago below Paul Geivett 2 weeks ago He was one of the top 6 suspects and its not gosset or mc coy but mc coy did know db cooper cooper lost 60,000 of the money but was found and 6000 was placed on beach for brian I to find on purpose If you look on You Tube he comments on about 98% of the videos with the same template. he is making some pretty crazy accusations, but some of what he says makes sense. he links McCoy, but not directly. he went thru the many different stories about how the Ingram's fit in. the money was planted. how this was done is another far fetched conclusion. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

he does claim this knowledge.....lots for this guy to prove.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Bruce, I need to talk with you as well. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

fair enough. the guy starts out making a lot of sense. then he starts saying some things that are really hard to swallow. he does believe KC was Cooper. most of his proof comes from the letters sent. one being from Canada (Province) where Lyle was living at the time. I told him I would not repeat a lot of what he said. he goes on to say his book will be coming out very soon. he has 6 suspects in the book and narrows them down to one. he also said the FBI is not happy with the case claiming they get an average of 3 calls a day claiming they know something about the case. he went onto explain they will be closing the case 11/24/2013. will it happen? I don't know. some of the things he said don't make sense until I have more thoughts after talking with Georger and Robert99 in private. I trust these two with judgement calls. nothing personal to anyone else. I talk a lot with both of them off this thread and trust both of them. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I just spent 3 hours on the phone with Paul Geivett. holy cow does this guy have a story to tell. he explains how the money got onto the river bank. the letters, handwriting etc. he was very explicit about talking with the FBI and they agree with what he has presented. IF this guy is telling the truth. the case will be solved. it sounds good, but I'm not 100% sold. I don't want to go into details on a public form about what he told me. some of it I find very hard to believe. what isn't in the Cooper case...... someone needs to check the sediments of the Lewis river vs the findings on the Tina Bar money. this could be the start of validation. that's the most I can say. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

this guy says he never talked to you or had a reason too. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'm on the phone with him now....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

your wish is my command http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggIN_LkWV8c "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

seems Paul Geivett has responded to comments on You Tube.... "robert bleveins i will show you for free call me 360 975 9601 why do you think they never let you see it until 2010 and I know who put the money on the beach for brian ingram to find and i quote; on purpose that day for me to find on purpose unquote. I live in clark county where it all went down in fact it was never brian ingram it was the little girl, she was to shy and scared to go in front of the news cameras. I know where the canvas bag was found brian will admit the same spot. Fbi agreed" "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"She stopped speaking to the media completely before, in about 1979 or 1980, entering the Maria Regina Convent, a Carmelite Catholic nunnery outside Eugene, Oregon." Long shot.... what if she did accept the money? possibly eating her up and decides to get rid of it.....could be more logical than other theories..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

usually doesn't happen with me...... anyway, back to the guy who solved the Cooper case.....when you look at his map it appears he is trying to show how the money got to the river bank (wrong way) and the long Knoss hiking all over the place getting away. if it was KC. I hope he covered his head while the planes and copters where out looking. the glare would have gave him up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggIN_LkWV8c "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The IDIOT did NOT do any RESEARCH at all. I told you guys I think I know who this guy is but since I can't access his CRAP I am unable to compare the syntax and other things. Seems like this guy STRUCK out with me and others and now he has new targets. It was information similar to this new guy (or same guy) that told me the guy I was talking to and corresponding was NOT for real. The guy I spoke to claimed he had witnesses and backers and a Law enforcement on board with him - why I thought he was with the Marla Camp. Geeze! This writing comparison guy needs to get with the program and do his research instead of making statements like he owns the rights to Cooper or any suspect.Quote Several attornies have weighed in. Both tell me the man's published claim of rights, socalled, aren't worth the Youtube black screen they are written on, and unless the FBI and the agents named have actually signed on to this which is doubtful, the man's claims may even be false and an infringement?. Paraphrasing: '... this guy cannot lay any legal claims onto his so-called intellectual property right to the evidence on DB Cooper. He could copyright his book, but the evidence that he claims to have revealed is 42 year-old evidence that he found published elsewhere. Such claims as his, are specious. Once its been published elsewhere, it becomes property of the public. And it is.' I am writing this but still not sure what 'hand writing' the man has compared, or thinks he has compared. I have read Shutter's account which from the very little I know seems ballpark correct. But I have questions, some questions potentially serious with implications. One potentially serious issue is 'where did he get the "hand writing" he is comparing? The FBI has evidence nobody has ever seen (some say), not even Geoff Gray, Tom Kaye, or RobertMBlevins Semi-Professional Case Manager!. I joke but Im also serious. Is one of the items he is comparing a socalled letter from DB Cooper, socalled, which nobody but two entities has ever seen and the FBI presumably has the letter? The DB Coopephelia is so full of exaggerated claims ... it's hard to know where to begin or what to think. One person has written saying he wonders "if Blevins isn't behind it" trying to keep his name alive in the Cooperphelia! Somehow I doubt that. It merely points out the ludicrous nature and lengths some people will go to ... to force their way in line for Cooper gas, without a penny in their pockets. "where did he get the "hand writing" he is comparing?" I guess the real question would be, does he have these comparisons. this guy thinks the ticket was signed by cooper. if you look at is map on the video he has a path for miles. the way he is acting on other You Tube video comments tells me he is not very professional about what he is claiming. the guy is posting his phone number, calling people out etc. etc. I can put a bunch of papers together and make it look good for the camera. why would he start this venture on You Tube? I would be calling reporters if I had such hard evidence. maybe we should call him? probably a recording so he can censor the calls......two of them are involved. perhaps they are trying to go viral...I don't know. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

of course the skunk vids are fake. this once again proves how gullible the public can be. I watched one of the vids where you can hear his footsteps lol suppose to be the skunk cam. I find it funny when people claim they get all kinds of emails supporting there claims. the same for Marla, most of her followers probably know the basic facts and run on what ever she says. they don't discuss the case they just automatically go with there evidence. this continues to fuel the ego more and more. perhaps we could take up a couple pages here explaining the fact that the skunk dude destroyed Government property by defacing or destroying currency for his little scam which he get's that $20 back thru being a You Tube partner. still a Federal offense "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

he is trying to match hand writing from the ticket. portion of the letter reads as follows. after discovering handwriting match between original airline ticket that was collected by special agent Ralph H. on the original date 1971 and compared to letter written to Canadian Newspaper (Province Van 9) after the release of the ticket by special agent Larry Carr I felt I had a good enough comparison to compare it to the top six suspects to easily eliminate all. he is basing this on handwriting of KC to the signed airline ticket. if he has been doing this for 20 years he would know Cooper didn't sign the ticket. why would he be contacting Carr at the stage?? I guess in a roundabout way he has proven that Hal Williams is DB Cooper lol. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

There was a full analysis of the skunk money here, with photos. Its not even from the same era as I recall . . . Sluggo may know who posted that - he just never said but was very (intentionally?) mum on the topic. Some thought Safe was the person but he said no ? skunk camera vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUeGvMKRDRM "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

The guy claims he has been involved with the case for 20 some years, but fails to know the ticket was signed by the ticket agent, not Cooper. lot's of good stuff as you said back there, but lot's of the same crap you see here as well. there is also a guy using a skunk with a camera finding Cooper cash lol. you can't comment on his vids. he censors the comments and only allows what he wants shown. I went thru the same thing with the ghost boys "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I'll have to look at the vid again, I believe he is trying to prove the handwriting to the Cooper letters sent in if not mistaken. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I believe Georger answered it well enough. the difference with Vicki is she is trying to find out what happened to her father. certain things line him up as a Cooper suspect, but she doesn't push the issue. just looking for closure. there is a big difference with Vicki's story. it's possible he could be Cooper, but you don't see her on here claiming victory. that guy you guys are talking about with Robert B. is spamming all over You Tube that he has solved the mystery. claiming all rights to KC. he hit every video on You Tube...except the mainstream NBC, CBS etc. he has matched the signature of the ticket to KC I believe, which is incorrect. this was as of 6/13/2013...where is the press conference lol. called Marla a flake. real pro.....not. you can read his comments here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWfSIxIFlbY "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

He's not a bad match for the description. He has a criminal record, I think. That's all I know. In part: Now I understand. You're angry because I brought up your YouTube post. Well, that was a bit different. You removed your original comment there where you bragged you got around YouTube restrictions by leaving off keywords, enabling you to rip off an entire TV episode and post it publicly. The other was a background song on a subdomain website installed on a single page that gets few visits anyway unless you have the web address. Both are wrong, but one was not deliberate and apparently someone was getting paid. Wherever she was PayPal'ing that money, it's been stopped. I have spoken to Gayla about this today. I told her if she wants a Beatle song, she will have to take one from 'Beatles Live for Swedish Radio,' which is about the only Fab Four stuff in public domain. As it happens, I have a copy of that recording. She can choose from the following: 'You Really Got a Hold on Me,' 'Roll Over Beethoven', 'I Saw Her Standing There,' and 'Money'. She's happy with that. I never said anything of the sort. I have never taken something off my post after confronting someone. I was joking about the fact of beating them at there game by giving a counter claim. they decided not to bother and my video's were released. they had seconds of material on them. I never said anything about "keywords" I have never posted anything of the sort on You Tube. everything I post was done by me. you have me mixed up with someone else. "keywords" don't give you up. the software You Tube has seeks out copyright material. keywords mean nothing. I have 3 of them on one of my accounts. You Tube tells me to do nothing at this point. if someone finds material belonging to them they can remove the audio or video. again, keywords won't hide anything. Content ID match I believe it's called. soon all of the fun will be gone from the computer. Microsoft is working on a program that blocks any copyright material. soon it will be as fun as going to the library. no more You Tube because of the restrictions that will apply. lot's of sites will go down. soon we might even sing a Beetle song. "Back in the USSR" make sure about the Beetle thingy. I did read some of the copyrights expired, but does it include the USA? very grey area as you know..... just to close this matter. if you really believed in all of this so strongly you wouldn't be breaking the rules by advertising here..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI