mrshutter45

You are dreaming Jo. There are a lot of radio experts on this forum and not one of them finds this credible, especially in 1971. 377 If that actually worked everyone's watches would go haywire near towers. 1970: Girard-Perregaux presents its first wristwatch to the world to be equipped with a quartz movement and the following year a second one which vibrates at 32,768 hertz, the frequency remaining the universal standard for quartz watches today. I'm trying to figure out how she set up "3 magnetic towers and one vor." ?? and yet she can't watch You Tube video's lol Jo, 10,000 feet is almost 2 miles straight up..... "The towers cause it to hesistate and then move and then hesitae and it does this 3 times" Hmmm, how does a quartz watch move? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Don't count KC out just yet. I found some home video of him showing his skills http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTK7GMbQ024 "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I think you assume to much. we are on a parachute site. I would rather hear the information asked answered by someone qualified. not someone who seen a video and puts the equation into play. having heavy load on there back and pushed onto the plane doesn't mean they jump with a tether line. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I don't think that's how it's done...LMAO yep, Cooper died all right... that scenario would probably make the harness fail and kill or severely injure the jumper... hangdiver wouldn't most paratroopers on a zip line have there gear on there person rather than a tether line? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggBtX0HAgM Well, I never said I was a paratrooper, but I have seen an awful lot of WW2 footage showing these guys landing with gear hanging from a line below them. In your video, the trainees are carrying very little besides the chute itself. It's also known that WW2 era troopers sometimes had to be pushed onto the plane from behind due to the weight of the gear. I don't think jumping with a 22 pound bag of money would be an insurmountable task. perhaps you could provide a link? I'm thinking only certain groups would carry gear like that and not a typical WW2 jumper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzF2AfaZvpo "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

I don't think that's how it's done...LMAO yep, Cooper died all right... that scenario would probably make the harness fail and kill or severely injure the jumper... hangdiver wouldn't most paratroopers on a zip line have there gear on there person rather than a tether line? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggBtX0HAgM "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo, I didn't make the post about microwaves. something you are forgetting with the tower lights. the lights on towers are meant for low flying aircraft so they don't hit them. I'm not sure you can see them at 10,000 feet. then you need to have the clouds align similar to the stars and planets in order for them to be seen through the gaps in the clouds. just because Duane told you something doesn't mean it's true. I think you go way overboard trying to "accessorize" Cooper. you seem to be missing one item (see photo) "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

while we are on the subject of Proof. I watched Decoded again and noticed something new. take a look at the photo of the the wood being pulled up. you see that line running across the bottom of it? that's where it joined the vertical part of the existing counter. since it was protected over the years it has a color difference, it was preserved so to speak. so, how did the last known piece of Formica get on the original wood part of the countertop? answer. because that was probably the formica Kenny installed prior to it being ripped out of the house in the early 2000's and some how found it's way into the attic. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo is in the dark ages. she has dial up on her computer. it's not even set up to view video. she can only view certain photo's, no PDF's. the list goes on.... if I'm correct it doesn't have an on button. it crank starts "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Thanks Jerry, that's exactly how I thought it would turn out asking that question. I already have him in my BK file "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jerry, how well do you know Paul Geivett. he claims he knows you and that you agree with his findings? just thought I would ask for the record. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"2) A picture taken in KC's kitchen in 1992 shows the counters as basically the same color, white. But the picture is not enough to say they are an exact match." months back while arguing this point you claimed you had a "Professional" ID the countertop being the one in the picture and not just the wood itself. then you went on to claim there was nothing done in the attic. I showed a picture of the attic while Decoded was up there and you could clearly see newer 2x4's in which you responded with it being a lighting issue. you also claim that the "sheetrock" or drywall was original. the house was built in the 40's and looking again at the interior I can say the drywall is not original. in fact it was not a very good installation. the piece is jagged because it was torn out of the house during remodeling, how or why it got in the attic is not an issue with me. how do you say it, Reality Hotel check in time? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

If I may read something into that you meant to say Instability! Well, unfortunately that does NOT exist. I don't think PEOPLE are after me. Tell you what why don't I start transmitting to you the communications I had with this man by email. Of course I have nothing of all the phone conversations on it...he really saved the goodies and the teases for the phone...couldn't seem to get him to TALK about them in writing. If I do that then he will have to DEVELOPE a whole new story - he was really good at it - but when he pulled old photos and told me the women in the back one was his mother -WELL, I have old pictures of Duane's mother and even when he was young she did NOT look like those women and the date of the dresses did NOT fit for the time period of when Duane was a boy. See what I mean - there are LOTS of things that I have done THAT ARE NOT on this thread....and part of that is 9 to 10 months of communications with this man and the stories he told. Jo, I believe you have the wrong person in question. you go after every new poster on this form as if you know exactly who they are. you did the same for flyjack. I'm not saying you probably don't get some nutty people contacting you, but they can't be every new poster on here......way to much assuming on this here thread. I don't know what else to tell you. chasing this as long as you have and not finding anything of real value has got to tell you something? I'm not talking about taking 2+2 and making it into 5 either. it will always be 4. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Jo, if people were after you (which I doubt) they would not come on the internet where things are logged. Mission Impossible is a TV show. this is a thread where we are suppose to go over evidence. I don't see where you put the two together and make it into dark secrets, people after me etc. I think you are scaring more people with your stability vs someone wanting to harm you. Concerned...... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

agreed, according to Robert the countertop found in the attic is the same from what Kenny installed and he shows a picture of the counter pointing out the new countertop installed on it. in order to have an extra piece left over, you would have to change the dimensions of the countertop itself. if you were using a piece of would to hide something in the attic, why put formica on it? when you demo a house, all bets are off on damage. they just come in a rip everything out. what they can't control by force, they simply cut it up into small pieces. that house has changed dramatically over the years. 99% of the time they remove the old formica, and install a new piece. the only reason you would mess with the wood portion of the counter would be to replace a damaged piece, or a reconfiguration of the old countertop. this would mean cutting all the way down to the floor if you are changing the way it originally looked. if the counter is 90 inches wide, you cut a piece about 92 inches and trim it once it's dry. actually you can also rough sand the old surface and install right on top of the old material if you wish. lot's of changes in the attic. added supports were put in, probably due to the age of the home. vents in the roof and eves have been installed post Kenny. it's been a commercial building for over 10 years. the odds of Kenny's little piece of wood surviving this are extremely low. I just can't believe this was some sort of hiding place. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Its colder than a witche's caboose here! -17... supposed to be back in the 30s and 40s by Thursday ... Pump some Sunshine State here asap! " Here in Ft Laud. it's dipping down into the 40's tonite. when your so use to the heat it's unbearable weather for us down here. jackets go on, and the heat is turned on. I'm sure the mid 40's would be a nice change for you "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

no actual recording, only the transcripts that can be found on Sluggo's site. nope, Cooper never made it into the cockpit. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Just imagine if these suspects were alive...... Duane seems to be just an average criminal and Con man. KC seems to be an average hard working guy who had some tough times like anyone else would. the guys own brother tossed him under the bus, along with his friends, but, none of them will come forward on there own and bust the case wide open? KC's home has been said to have been purchased for cash in the sums of $14,000 $14,500 & $16,500 CASH. then property records were found showing and lengthy Morgtage attached to his home with his name on it. The attic my fav. a piece of wood with the same formica was found in the attic years later. the problem I have is with this is when replacing formica you wouldn't have an extra piece of the new formica left over. (not attached to wood) the kitchen was demolished in the early 2000's. this would explain the jagged cuts on the piece. it was destroyed and some how ended up in the attic. Decoded shows pictures, but fails to show the two cross members which by looking at the one shown, appears to be of the same circa as the existing framework. typically when you install vents in the attic you install two for cross ventilation. no vent was seen on an older photo during KC's stay at the home. KC was living in a small apartment complex, then purchased an small home where he lived the remainder of his life. paying it off shortly before he died. stories of him loaning out $5000 in cash to a friend. zero conformation of this transaction except someone claiming this happened. absolutely nothing has been verified about anything on Christiansen. it's all talk. I had to step forward and try and resolve how the house was purchased. the outcome will soon be revealed. lot's and lot's of speculation and theories made into facts over the years..... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

odds are high that this person doesn't even know you or Jo. you keep singing the same old tune and sooner or later it's heard and it might not be what you want to hear....... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Ok, Smokin, I'm stumped...Who is "east/west"? Not sure if they were on here... I would have to check back...but on other forums...there used to be two posters named East Coast and West Coast. Don't remember who east coast was or if he was one of the two mentioned in the segment below - but west coast, I'm pretty sure, was Dan Dvorak (spelling might be off) or Matthew Myers. One died? and not sure if the other is still in the DB game. Their theory was that Ted Mayfield did it. (Disclaimer - The above gives a general idea, but I would have to check back on all of the specifics - it's been a while) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6bXxqaq0s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZQhUUjIXEo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URpMaQ3WVj4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dat-UPEB15M the ID is correct. the story kind of fizzled out after one of them died. they were on Mayfield big time. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

"Is it any surprise Blevins says: ""I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." ... " he likes to call it "Dodging' when he doesn't get a reply or an answer! I'll just find out myself like I did with Jo. "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. "I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." Reality Hotel check in.....those questions are from your PDF. I guess I'll have to look into it myself and post the findings. played a lot of dodge ball when you were younger I gather (*laughs*) shouldn't take me to long to get the info. might even make a website.... On the stamps and coins....even if KC did have one - many, if not most, regular ol joe collectors rarely buy a "collection". They purchase or find individual items over a long period of time and the individual items then form a collection that, if they are lucky, matures in value over time. Those that seriously try to eliminate their candidates, rather than force random findings to fit a pre-selected conclusion have a better chance at arriving at the truth. .....(Of course, whether they ultimately like or accept that truth is a whole other issue)

"Seriously Robert - whether you trust anyone or not is immaterial. It takes more than one person to make a circle. For anyone interested, if you want the real estate records that aren't online you just have to request them manually (phone or letter) and pay a fee to have them copied and mailed." That's correct. I just got off the phone with them. it's very simple, something Blevins should have done in the first place, but it seems he is to busy correcting other peoples statements and theories. it had to be done. The comments (*laughs*) I posted weeks ago that he would bring it up again by 11/25/2013....was pretty close lol "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. If I had any public trust with this thread remaining, it disappeared when some current users here were traced to filthy-ass comments about both me and Gayla (who cares zip about Cooper) on outside articles. Trust is GONE, and whether you like it or not, that's the way it is. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. "I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website." Reality Hotel check in.....those questions are from your PDF. I guess I'll have to look into it myself and post the findings. played a lot of dodge ball when you were younger I gather (*laughs*) shouldn't take me to long to get the info. might even make a website.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

here is some homework for you Robert.... show any proof Kenny spent anything over $500 cash from 1972-1975. not Bob, or Steve said so either. proof required. explain how some of your witnesses seem to think he paid cash for everything without backing the story up. proof required explain why someone would claim an arrest for attempted murder and no record of that charge on file. proof required. explain to us when Kenny purchased the lots behind the Safeway, and when he sold them. proof required. explain how you have plenty to say and do here, but can't manage your own site full of error's. which you said you would fix weeks ago? any reason why Kenny would have trouble opening the stairs? what happened to the real estate person? Kenny should have pictures of the stamp collection for insurance, no pics, receipt, anything proving this? or is it more talk and less proof thingy going on like all the other stories? "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI

Why would this be an indicator that the flight path is valid? The pressure bump is only an indicator of the time he jumped, its indication of the location of the bump is only valid if the flight path is valid - it doesn't of itself make the flight path valid. Actually, "a while" is probably semantics. I believe it was in Himmelsbach book that they (FBI) thought Cooper's plan was to jump sooner rather than later. keep in mind that Rataczak also`told the FBI that Cooper jumped 10-15 minutes after the last contact with Cooper at 8;05. all of these perfect people have not so perfect answers.....that puts Cooper out of the search area.... "It is surprising how aggressive people get, once they latch onto their suspect and say, 'Hey, he's our guy.' No matter what you tell them, they refuse to believe you" Agent Carr FBI