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This is not at all what I was thinking when I read the subject. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Yeah, because Hatch has 10 mil. Well, she didn't speak about is until after the episode so she's obviously in step with the network. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I missed it. What did he do to Sue? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

New subject title. To clarify for X000 jump jackasses like Webber, this isn't about FF's out before RW but maybe entire load of FF's in the HD out first scenario. What prompted this was that last week I exited after a 5 way HD. Usual separation had been 4 seconds regardless of jump type. I gave them 8. They had a solid exit and I took my time since I probably would have been right on top of them exiting in a big floppy sit. There was another load that had dropped before us and the guy after me said he had to track because there were canopies below him, nevermind that at that point they were probably flaring to land. Aside from the obvious, that my additional 4 seconds meant nothing, and not thinking about exit order: Do pilots take climbout and group type into account on spots, or as The111 suggests, is it all within the N-factor that was supposed to have kept me from landing out as many times as I have? I ask because I repeatedly hear people bitch about a bad spot because the first group took so long to get out. It seems like both jumpers and pilot don't even commence climbout until we're already AT the spot. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

What's the difference with the 5.0? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Do/Should pilots spot shorter for situations where FF'rs, specifically a head down group, are out first? Is the throw really that much different? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I chose "after hours" because I don't think many of the other things distinguish the average dropzone by much. For example, if the "general attitude" is unsafe or if everyone is a jerk then it's not average. So, I choose based on the fun I have while not jumping. That's what makes the difference to me as to whether or not I'll make the trip if the weather is questionable. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Right now "We're Not Gonna Take It" "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Yeah, I saw the one of me and the other Skydive VA jumpers. Why didn't anyone tell me that I looked like shit? That camera takes some SWEET pictures. Must get one. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I had the best smoked barbecue ham sandwich ever. It was the perfect way to end Saturday jumping. Sitting in a chair with a sandwich and a bunch of MGD's. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Yes, Kerry is seeming more and more like a hypocrit. I'm not saying he's the same person he was 30 years ago but he hasn't proved that he won't sell out anyone for his own political gain. His biggest moment in Vietnam appears to be when he killed an unarmed wounded enemy soldier. Hmmm... "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Anyone know how valid this is? Written by Pat Buchanan for a conservative publication. John Kerry’s Bright Shining Lie by Patrick J. Buchanan Posted Feb 27, 2004 “I fought against Richard Nixon’s war,” John Kerry roared the night of his breakthrough in the Iowa caucuses. “Nixon’s War” has become a signature slur of Kerry’s campaign to win the office Nixon held when Kerry was rubbishing Vietnam and the behavior in battle of the American soldiers who fought there. In April of 1971, I was in the White House when Vietnam Veterans Against the War camped out on the mall, cursed the Nixon Administration, and threw their medals over the fence. John Kerry spent that week with friends in Georgetown and testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. What he told Sen. William Fulbright’s (D.-Ark.) committee and NBC’s “Meet the Press” was that America was engaged in genocide, that he and his warrior comrades had perpetrated atrocities, that their officers knew and approved of it, that our leaders were “war criminals.” Liberalism’s War Kerry told the Senate that 150 honorably discharged veterans, many of them highly decorated, had “testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia . . . on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.” As Kerry”s lurid depiction ran: “[T]hey had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wire from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam. . . .” Kerry has lately backed away from the more sensational of these charges. Yet still he calls it “Nixon’s War.” This is slander. This is scape-goating. This is a bright shining lie by a man who showed bravery in battle but lacks the moral courage to tell the truth. This was not Nixon’s War. It was Liberalism’s War, the war into which The Best and Brightest of the New Frontier plunged this country. It was the war the liberals began, but could not win. Ousted from power, they turned in rage and resentment against Nixon when it appeared in 1973 he had ended the war in success and brought our troops and POWs home in honor. That is why the Left had to bring him down. They could not abide the notion that Nixon succeeded in a war they had declared that America should never have fought and could not win. What is the true history of that war? When Nixon left the vice presidency on Jan. 20, 1961, there were 600 U.S. advisers in Vietnam and no U.S. war. On Nov. 22, 1963, the day Kennedy died, there were 16,000 U.S. advisers in Vietnam, 25 times as many as were there when Ike and Nixon had left. Only weeks earlier, Kennedy had approved of the coup that had led to the murder of President Diem, and massive U.S. involvement. In 1964 Barry Goldwater demanded, “Why Not Victory?” To which LBJ replied, “Americans boys ought not to be doing the fighting that Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves.” But LBJ had already planned an escalation. In August of 1964 came the Tonkin Gulf incident between U.S. destroyers and North Vietnamese gunboats. A Democratic House voted 416 to 0 and a Democratic Senate 88 to 2 to authorize LBJ to take us into war. That November, Johnson carried 61% of the vote. Democrats added to their strength in both houses of Congress. Liberals dominated this capital, its media, its culture, as they had not since FDR. For all eight years of the Kennedy-Johnson tenure, more and more U.S. troops poured into Vietnam. When Nixon took office in 1969, some 525,000 U.S. troops were in Vietnam or on the way, and 35,000 had died. Kerry was first wounded in the Mekong while LBJ was still President. How, then, can Kerry call it “Nixon’s War”? By the end of his first year, Nixon had reduced U.S. forces in Vietnam by scores of thousands. Yet as he was bringing the men and boys home and trying to save South Vietnam from a bloodbath, the liberal establishment that had marched us into Vietnam began to blame Nixon for Vietnam. In October and November of 1969, hundreds of thousands of demonstrators surrounded the White House. Airborne troops were in the basement of the EOB. Wrote the Washington Post’s David Broder: “The men and the movement that broke Lyndon Johnson’s authority in 1968 are out to break Richard M. Nixon in 1969. The likelihood is great that they will succeed again.” But Nixon did not break. He called on the Great Silent Majority to stand with him for “peace with honor.” And the people did stand by him. In April 1970 Nixon ordered the enemy sanctuaries in Cambodia, from which U.S. troops were being attacked, cleaned out. Two months after the incursion, U.S. casualties fell by 50%. In the spring of 1972, when Hanoi refused to negotiate in good faith, Nixon mined Haiphong and bombed Hanoi. When Hanoi began to renege on its commitments made in Paris, Nixon ordered the Christmas bombing. From his first day in office, Nixon was determined to end the division of his country and bring the troops home, but not in defeat or disgrace. He put his presidency on the line to give South Vietnam a fighting chance for freedom from the evil regime Ho Chi Minh had created in the North. If Kerry thinks what Nixon did was a war crime, let him ask John McCain what he felt when he heard the bombs falling on the Hanoi rail yards. In his testimony to the Fulbright Committee, Kerry declared that, “to attempt to justify the loss of one American life in Vietnam, Cambodia or Laos by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom . . . is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy.” Tell that to the families of the South Vietnamese executed in the thousands and sent in the tens of thousands to the “reeducation camps” when Saigon fell. Tell that to the families of the million Cambodians who perished in the Killing Fields. Why has Kerry never acknowledged he was wrong? Why has he never apologized for having been a fool and for having slandered the memory of the 58,000 Americans who died to prevent these horrors? Vietnam was not only the “noble cause” Ronald Reagan declared it to be. It was a winnable war. And Richard Nixon did not lose it. He sacrificed his presidency to end it with honor for the Americans who had fought and with freedom for the South Vietnamese for whom they had fought. Nixon tried, and, yes, he failed. But it was the American Left and the movement an ambitious John Kerry joined, after he came home, that poured down a sewer everything for which 58,000 Americans gave their lives. For the truth about Vietnam is this. That war was not lost in Asia. U.S. soldiers did not lose a single battle. That war was lost in the United States. Who lost Vietnam? That question still sticks in the craw of this country and it shall until this generation passes away. In their hearts the American people know the answer. This war was lost by a national establishment that plunged us into it, could not win or end it, broke and ran, and sabotaged Nixon’s effort to end it with honor. These were the guilty men. The greatest of the war crimes was not committed in Vietnam. It was committed here, in this city, when Congress, prodded and pushed by Nixon-haters, tied his hands, restricted U.S. bombing, slashed military aid to the South, leaving our ally at the mercy of invading armies from the North supplied by Moscow and Beijing. These are the people who bear moral responsibility for the loss of Vietnam, the horrors that followed, and the holocaust in Cambodia. What John Kerry did in Vietnam was honorable. What he did after that war—sliming the troops as mad dogs and war criminals—was disgraceful and dishonorable, and contributed to the loss of Vietnam and the humiliation of our country. Truth be told, many leftists welcomed America’s defeat. Some ran to New York to welcome the Hanoi delegation to the UN. Others marched under Viet Cong flags in demonstrations and were welcomed as they chanted their mocking slogan, “Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Minh, the NLF is going to win!” It was not only Jane Fonda who was guilty of treason in that time. As for Richard Nixon, whatever his sins, he was a patriot who loved his country and her soldiers, and did his damnedest to bring her fighting men home with the honor they deserved. Ask the POWs. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright © 2003 HUMAN EVENTS. All Rights Reserved. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Mel's explaination about how to not go low: "Well, how about you just don't do that?" "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I Naired my upper body on a dare last week. Do that, shaving will leave ingrown hairs. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I'm happy to report that I got enough info about myself together after losing my driver's license to get on the plane and get home. Although I wouldn't have minded more time out for vacation it would have sucked being stranded. It was good so see all of the people in person who I see on here. I didn't recognize Yoshi without the pug, so that took a while. Sweet weekend. You all rock. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

What does this have to do with Muslims? I wonder if Farrakan has ever met a real Muslim. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

50 feet is 50 feet and she made the choice to try for 180 turn. The canopy hit before she did, according to a witness. If she were up by one or even two sizes then what? She might have been just under the canopy in its arc into the ground? What good would that do? The other jumper with her made a cross-wind landing and was alright. Maybe she wasn't ready for a L126 but the cause and effect don't seem to have much to do with each other. You could say she wasn't ready for it if she hit some turbulence or tried to avoid something and hooked in. But she had been jumping this canopy and had been doing CRW so it wasn't like she opened at 2.5k and didn't have time to wring it out. True, a size up with lead would be better for a new jumper (It's what I do) but it wasn't the cause of this incident. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

And thus was invented cajun cooking to mask that muddy flavor. Actually, anyone here with experience w/ fish farms. If you let that thing live in clean water for a while would the mud taste wash out of it? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

DAMN YOU! I have 24 hours till my plane leaves. Please...put me in your luggage. I can't stand my office anymore. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Oh shut up. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Depends on where I am. This is ok at a diner. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Hey, why not? Just charge them up the ass for it. There's not only the cost of the repack but if the only available rigger is a TM then cover the cost of tandems he/she will be missing. I am posting because I'm a DZO. I'm not affiliated with the USPA or any organization. You supply the plane and all that stuff and you can jump, as long as you find a runway and a place to land and do the paperwork thingys. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Zero wasn't an option. What's up? I just scratch my initials until there isn't any paper left and then give it back to manifest so they can tell me what to X out. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Yes, they can. I think most people just like the formaility. It gives it something official, "So let it be written, so let it be done." "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

No, a marriage is a vow between two people to, put gruffly, stay together through thick and thin. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher