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NO!...That's exactly what they'll be expecting us to do! "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

What angle, your thread has no relevant content. Where is your proof that this thread has no relevant content? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

As I asked in your previous thread(s): Where is the audio of the explosions? I had posted several examples of very loud and obvious explosions from a very reputable source called Youtube. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

You both sum it up, there isn't much "right" here. He shouldn't have dragged his wife, kids, and dogs into his crimes but that's no reason for the cops to see them as acceptable collateral damage. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

So you think groups that espouse the exclusion of people based on race are acceptable? Do you believe any steps should be taken to stop illegal immigration? Do you believe California,or any border states have been impacted by illegal immigration? l The website is founded, based, and motivated by racism towards brown people and nearly every article is about the negative aspects of Latinos in our country. If this is what you believe then I'm not going to change your opinion through an internet forum. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

It's really not. There are cases in which this response is required because there are some really nasty people out there. They thought it was the case with this guy because of his priors but they were wrong. So, like dorbie said, if this is for the officer's protection then they need to remember that it stops right there. They can't just use it as an excuse to go commando. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

I remember that. Un-fuckin' believable. From what I've read it sounds like they're staying quiet for the time being. I imagine either so they can come back hard or because the guy has been building a rap sheet recently and there's a deal on the table. Still, him being guilty of a crime doesn't exonerate the cops for excessive use of force. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Said perfectly. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Should they have been scarred and bled from dog bites instead? Should thay have invaded the innocent dog owner's home like a militray force, heavily armed and armoured and screaming orders? This sounds more like you haven't seen the armor that some drug dealers are packing. Look at the most recent set of links that I just posted. This guy gave plenty of reasons to think that it wasn't going to be an easy take-down. Still, the police look stupid now because there wasn't jack shit there and they killed a dog in front of a kid. There's egg on their face and they'll very likely change their tactics (according to the follow up reports). "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/ Please just peruse the website you've quoted and then come back and tell me what you saw. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Should they have been scarred and bled from dog bites instead? There's an area between that. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Karma can be a bitch. Hope those thugs get what they deserve. Again, I'll give the benefit of the doubt. Only one person pulled the trigger. Still, shit rolls uphill and it's a leader's responsibility to mold the culture within a group. I still haven't seen any follow-up on this. UPDATE: This guy is no gem: http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2010/05/subject-of-missouri-swat-raid-was-no-angel.html He had a history of combative arrests and convictions of coke distribution that made the cops opt for SWAT. I still MM-Quarterback shooting the dogs. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Easy to say from Massachussets I live in Vermont, actually. White bread central. Again, if you're scared of brown people then move to Iceland. Or Vermont. Bullshit. I saw a black person in the newspaper today. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Easy to say from Massachussets I live in Vermont, actually. White bread central. My last residence was Columbia Heights in Washington, D.C. Most of my neighbors didn't speak English. I grew up on the Route 1 corridor of Alexandria, VA and I was the minority. My girlfriend's grandfather is black but she's pretty much a cracker. So what's that? Yeah, I realize that there are some issues in that corner of the world but a website whose photographic caption is a set of stereotypical looking beaners usurping a trademark of American (Fuck Yeah) history isn't where I go for my info. Again, if you're scared of brown people then move to Iceland. This WILL be a latin continent. It may even (oh the horror) become darker since we historically are the best harbor for those who need the defended safety that exists within our borders. And there are a lot of those people in Africa. Those people, like the Dutch, Germans, Irish, Italians, Spanish, Mexicans, Asians, Indians, Africans will become Americans and continue to protect our borders. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Move to Iceland if you're afraid of brown people. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

THANK GOD! ...and thank you Navy SEALS! \\ Yes Never should have gone this far Going after a seal for punching someone??? WTF They do worse in bars A sad chapter closed No, we can't just brush shit under the carpet or else it will still smell. The truth came out and goodness prevailed. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

So, to awaken this thread I'll announce that not only is my new job the apprentice brewer for McNeill's Brewery in Brattleboro, VT but we have a beer called Blonde Bombshell. It's basically an evolution of this but made with pilsner malts. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Just found it. You'll have to browse a few pages in. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Whatever happened to the old peanut butter and ground beef trick from....every movie ever made. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

And you know what, I'll play devil's advocate. Let's say that they know this won't be a high stress warrant. Their commander wants SWAT in there because he needs to keep them active in the field. Then some fucking nut job on the squad has a boner for killing shit and unloads on the first thing he sees. Dave, I'm sure there's some procedure for a non-lethal solution to a dog. Every drug dealer in the world has a dog. Is it too much to think that their intel included a dog being on premises and they act accordingly? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

http://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/video-of-swat-raid-on-missouri Ok, I can see the need for SWAT on a trafficking warrant. I can see the need for a LEO to shoot a dog if it poses a genuine threat. All of this is assuming that they've done their homework. BUT THEY SHOT A FUCKING CORGI AND THERE WEREN'T EVEN ANY DRUGS! Edit: Title changed since it was actually the pit-bull they killed. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Is there another link to this? The Tru TV link keeps playing some reality show. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Again, did this cop actually run over your niece? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

If that's valid then let's compare picking a single quote and presenting it as proof to picking a single individual and presenting it as proof. But a quick question; do YOU know a SINGLE quote out of the Koran? "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher

Sometimes, some scenes are deleted because the film must not exceed a certain duration, for commercial reasons (fucking studio executives...). In this case, adding the deleted scenes greatly improves the quality of the movie, since it allows the director to show what he really meant in the first place (adding depth to the characters, showing "unnecessary" but interesting plot http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_reply_write;quote=1;parent_post_id=3851768details, etc...). Of course I'm talking about quality movies here, not blockbusters... Examples of where it works...I have to tend towards the sci-fi genre: Dune, Blade Runner. Usually, it just detracts/distracts from the pace and tone of a movie. "I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher