BobKnoss

Sufficient explanation has been given. I'm not proving the case. I'm simply telling you what the facts are. You want to prove the case, you find the facts I'm telling you and YOU prove it. I'm just a snitch whispering in your ear. Bite me.

Apples beget apples. You are not my friend. You have no interest in my experiences, you call me liar, crazy, etc., you have presented only bad information and only attack my every post. I speak of what really happened. It is the way it was. Bite me. There are better avenues than your booby-trapped snares and I'll take the other road, thank you. all you are doing is denying coming forward Bob, you will not have a choice soon anyway, you want to claim whistleblower status but quickly back down when confronted, cowards do this Bob, do you want to be branded a coward? you not making any sense only talking about this HUGE crime on here Bob, then you respond with "bite me" your deformed pictures of your Family and your profile pic tells a lot about you Bob, you think it's funny while other are not laughing!! let the record show that Bob has left the battlefield once again non victorious,..... Always wrong. Always trying, very trying. It is the FBI that laughs at us all. I'd sue, given an opportunity, not funny. Yes, bite me. You are the cause, not the solution. Overzealous FBI that STILL operates under J. Edgar rules. Promised to fix it, no more Ruby Ridge, no more Waco, no more Monroes, Kings, etc. Bullshit. No real oversight of any value at all. Rotten to the core. Time to clean house.

Apples beget apples. You are not my friend. You have no interest in my experiences, you call me liar, crazy, etc., you have presented only bad information and only attack my every post. I speak of what really happened. It is the way it was. Bite me. There are better avenues than your booby-trapped snares and I'll take the other road, thank you.

Bob, you always like to use dates and even went into calculations about the angle Janet was in but you still "dodge" around the fact of how you think 15 miles west would of been a good flight path? also please include where you came about the "oil pipeline" that runs along the Columbia? and the 15 mile hike done by Cooper? please tell us how this was all done to fit your facts? can't wait to hear this one I suggest you get the real story first hand, yourself, if you can. Guess I just rate a little higher.

Every once in a great while there is a breath of fresh air and somebody states something truthful. I only wish to point out the constant bombardment you supply of misinformation and attempts to distract any worthwhile discussion. I stand by what I have said. Government sponsored safety demonstration stretched into a political football to enact unpopular legislation through Executive Order. THAT IS FACT. That is what was done and accomplished. It is a matter of record. A matter of history, a matter of fact. Nobody's talking, but tons of people know enough, and a few know everything, because THEY did it. I watched. Bite me.

Admitting your ignorance again? I state FACT! You seem to prefer hogwash. ALWAYS.

I know at least five people who had all of that information at that time and any one of us could have mailed it. Top on the list is Weber, or McCoy. Never a cold chance in Hell could it be the guy you claim. If you want the truth, talk to the SA's who ran the show on your end! Ask McCoy, you can find him. He is not hiding. Ask Geo. Tenant. The answers lie within your precious Bureau, not in any DNA tests. "Clowns to the left of me Jokers to the right..." "Slap me on the back and say, he-he-he."

Very interesting. Everything is backwards. Sounds familiar~

You guys did a really nice thing for the lady and I hope she appreciates the expertise within this thread. It proves we are not just one of the so called Chat Rooms. You are right - wouldn't it be wonderful if it was that easy to unravel the past of Weber. The journals we hope will be made available to us pretty soon - that should throw more light on the past of Weber and his life. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Just read my posts. It's all true. Every bit of it.

***[Placard Do not forget to factor in the winds that night and the card was very light - could have blown miles to the West. Too difficult to function to night, but I am trying to read all of the posts. Blown against the supposed winds? HUH?

I understand that Caterpillar Island and the other nearby wooded areas were checked visually. But Caterpillar Island in particular is reported to have heavy undergrowth that makes it very difficult to check. I have not seen any mention of metal detectors being used at Tena Bar by the FBI. Robert99 I guess I was wrong, well seems to be the next move I would say? someone could get permission I'm sure and go out there and check, couldn't hurt? GPR would be nice ( Ground Penetrating Radar) You won't get permission. If you did, there is nothing to find except a totally rusted 5 gallon milk can and cover. You two absolutely take the cake! And YOU think I should be wearing a straightjacket? HA! Youse twos should be sedated, chained together and seated with Georger to listen to another Blevins' KC Why Not recital. Kaye can serve crumpets and tea, whilst you all tease and ridicule me. I'm usually right and it's a really satisfying feeling.

EXCEPT: You can't believe what is written because the information being generated was from the perpetrators. The deception is in the telling, Dr. Watson, not in the analysis. You have to work backwards from Janet and assume NOTHING. You are SO wrong it is humorous!

The only relevant point is that she "saw de plane, de plane!" where it shouldn't have aughta been. Perhaps inhanced the story a tad, but let's not throw the baby out with the wash here. Janet was not the only observer. See Cook. Gotcha! And the flares were not road flares from Weber, they were shot from a flare gun out of the pursuit helicopter that McCoy was in. And THAT'S the truth, too.

Jo, You have finally "seen the light", literally speaking. And, vice-versa, the pilots are not going see Janet on the ground what with the almost two mile distance downward, the overcast, several cloud layers below the overcast, the darkness, the light rain in the area, and they probably weren't even looking for her in the first place. Robert99 or just go here and calculate it yourself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular_resolution this was all covered before in this thread. Obviously physics/ bio-physics applies. Nobody denies that including Janet. Tosaw was fully aware of that when he received Janet's account at a book signing and had time to probe her account. Others were also aware of this fact, at the time in November 1971. Read the thread. AND Richard Floyd McCoy Jr. SAID SO!!! And THAT'S the truth, so there! PPPPPPPFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT! I win! You lose. Georger is a genius, he's handsome, and all that stuff. Because he's RIGHT on this point. And the Blevins perspective. Oh YAH!

How little you know. How wrong you are. You had to be there. To see to hear and believe. The truth is strange and unsuspecting. To a greater degree than your lack of seeing. The truth is held by those in charge back then, and me, to tell with no regard. The facts are plain and simple but they're backwards to confuse the logic of those who prod and meddle.

Quote 'Cook believes the mysterious man was an FBI agent warning Janet not to go to the press because the FBI and other law enforcement agencies were expending considerable resources looking for Cooper near Lake Merwin, 35 miles north of Vancouver. "This would have splintered the FBI's progress and maybe prevented them from capturing D.B. Cooper," he said...' G. Cook ________________________________________ At last a paragraph of actual fact as it really happened by an HONEST investigation. Yes, the mystery man was McCoy, by his own admission. Now get the actual sighting location from "Janet." This would be the first time for a little truth to be discussed on this COVER UP FORUM. Mac was trying to keep the search away from where Weber really jumped. WEST OF THE SEARCH AREA!!!!!

I got it from a friend of mine who flew for Northwest and was on that flight. I think he would know, huh? Now blow that one up and paste it on your wall, clown! I have a pile of rocks in my front yard that have better info than you. You are beyond help. Go find a job.

Knoss, Make the "Adios" permanent and that will definitely improve this thread. And while you are leaving, take Jo Weber and all the other characters with their favorite "Cooper Candidates" with you. Robert99 Hey! I figured you out! You get everything wrong, backwards..... You're dyslexic, aren't you? YOU need to leave since everyone other than you is "wrong." You're in the wrong forum. But I can't find a forum you fit in.... Try the Obama Campaign, they NEED your help. Or, "Save the Whales". They got a ship leaving if you hurry. Any committed "sucker" job should be easy bait for you. You'd fit right in. Snipe hunting was invented for you and Mrs. Hutter. Take the pablum kid wid ja.

Like a fart in the wind, Cline, if you can post a little faster you might turn to butter! What a frickin' idiot! A head on a broom stick. You contribute absolutely NOTHING to any conversation. You HAVE to know how dumb you sound, don't you? At least Bleep can express a point, even if it's wrong. What a collection of people in need! Adios.

Flying Cloud airport has always been in Eden Prairie, and don't try the name change deal either, that was in 1948! you would think you could at least check your sources in your own hometown? The flying cloud airport is north of the Minnesota River. On the south side of Eden Prairie. NO WAY IN HELL.....the airport could have been in Shakopee (per my little birdie) I have eye's and ears all over this round thing we live on Mr Eggman. I have a map from the 60's that shows it named Flying Cloud, Vicki pointed this out to you a year ago! Bob your story has run it's course, I believe it's time for you to retire and start building bird houses, personally I think knitting suits you better!!! also thought I would fly your flag for a while, hope ya don't mind (see photo) I used to call it the "Shakopee airport" and so did others. Everybody knew what was meant. It is on top of the hill northwest of Shakopee. It is closer to Shakopee than Minneapolis was. When you speak out of ignorance and assume you always know better because you have a different perspective, you only display your ignorance for everyone to see. Chubby Checker, the Twister. "Ya, come on and do the Twist!" How many monkeys does it take to cover up Project Norjak? How many licks in an All Day Bar? It only takes ONE to expose the facts. Cover on, cover on.

I'm trying to make sense of this but I'm coming up short....sorry! KC had parachute training Gossett had training Mayfield had training _____________________________ Figures. Weber had lots of first class training. I watched it summer of 1968. 3 guys. DW, a trainer and a spotter. Spotter and trainer would trade off jobs each week. Flying Cloud Airport, Shakopee, Mn. Now Burnsville, MN. Age old jumping center in Minnesota. Pilot Training School, parachute jumps. Plane for rent. Lindstrom Owner. Records not available. POOF!

If the FBI vacuum cleaners that cleaned the plane in Reno were any good at all, they would contain the string that was used by TOG to sew the X chute closed. Weber would have cut the string with his pocket knife like he was told to do, and used that chute on his back. The string would probably be in short pieces. I heard the instructions as they were given to Weber. The X chute was put in his storage compartment in 1968, sewn shut to insure no tampering by uninformed SA's during retrieval. I'll be happy to certify this for you, along with each and every segment of the Norjak Project. P.S.: An experienced jumper is a joke in trying to assist in analyzing this incident, since NOTHING is standard procedure. EVERYTHING is dyslexic... backwards. Having flatulence between the ears is not the same as having dyslexia. Analyzing planted evidence and misinformation is not dyslexic either, but it is backwards, which is not the same as smart, which rhymes with fart, which we already discussed. It's a professional circle jerk here. Not my sort of game, but you are funny to watch. Rub-a-dub-dub Three men in a tub, And how do you think they got there? The jumper, the faker, the fabricator, They all jumped out of a rotten potato, 'Twas enough to make a man stare.

Knoss: Regina traced at least one of the phony posts to you by tracking your IP address. That's why she gave you that warning. If you think she's lying, take it up with her.' _______________________________ Yes, I posted on there ONCE in reply to what I thought was a post by Gray, which turned out to be another fake. I apologized to Geoff. Everything else with my name attached was fake postings by some arse hole. I see no humor in those postings. Just more of the kind of attacks I see on here from certain people. Why does it have to be so vicious? This is 40 year old trivia, dead and almost buried. NOBODY ha proved a thing that I know about. Just a lot of semi-supported speculation and name calling. Everyone's sure they are right, but anyone with an opinion has to stand up and take eternal live fire for expressing it. Some can ignore the bullets, some call in coordinates for the 3000 pounders, but nobody surrenders. The intelligent ones just walk away. The civil just shake their heads. And Big Brother giggles at the verbal bloodbath in the plastic box with a window, as they alter the accumulation of 'facts'. It's a jungle in here. Ker-chang! Kapow! Ka-zing! Ka-woo-woo-woo. That's not what I said. Never mind. Duck anyway.

""I Bob Knoss, Have NO evidence backing up my story. And any forgeries I have tried to pass off have all been proven as such, forgeries. I am not now, or have I ever been, part of the small party hijacking committed by an Individual called "D.B. Cooper" , but I enjoy telling fables and this is the only web sight I have not been banned fro yet. Thank You, Bob Knoss" _____________________________________________ "There you go again!" --Ronald Reagan Proof the forger, Matthew Cline, is still forging false statements to suit his own purpose. Obviously, I did not say that, everything he stated is a falsehood, as are most of the things he posts. He probably writes that Regina crap, too. Him 'n Bleep?

"Trust me, I didn't just fall off the apple cart." We trust you, Robert. Nobody would trust you on their apple cart. You may have been propelled by a mechanical farm cart used to spread nutrients on the field, however. How can you keep a straight face while repeating this KC farce? Nobody is listening, nobody bought into the story. You really can't seriously swallow any of that, can you? You have no evidence that holds water, nothing that wouldn't be thrown out as pure speculation. I can see how innocent people get railroaded into prison for things they never did. And vise-versa. This place is a colorful parade of what we should not be all about. But we are.