BobKnoss

"It's almost certainly Knoss. Perhaps you would not know that, sure. But you should have figured out right away they weren't written by any current or former FBI agents. Here's why:" KNOSS DID NOT POST THAT STUFF ON THAT SITE! Blevens is the one that keeps making that claim and I suspect is the responsible party. Look to the obvious because it was not Knoss. I admit it when I do something, but won't tolerate being railroaded by anyone, especially Bleep. Gotcha!

Glad to see you're "going along" for a change. Who knows - some day you might actually learn something about the DB Cooper case! Ha! Ha! You Bloviators (Blevinators) are so funny. You don't realize how comical you really are. You are both decidedly ignorant of the truth by choice, then axe each other on the idiocies you propagate. ROTFLMAO. Laurel and Hardy in double time. Flop your ties, boys! McCoy Lives. Nixon died. The truth lives with the retired FBI Agents, Ralph and Nick, etc. The fear rests with the aggressive young agents, and therein lies the rub. And there you go. Bite me.

What is this? Psychological mutual reinforcement of remedial Cooper Sleuthdom? Faced with the real facts, everyone throws their hands up in the air agast! Never! Not a crippled old man! Never! Not a common criminal! No conspiracy! One thing we can ultimately agree upon, and that is the truth will not be discussed on this forum. No no no no. Beat up on Jo, Bob is a slanderer. Remedial to be certain. Retarded, probably. Intentional? Absolutely! Bite me. The actual truth is in my posts. You all blow smoke.

All of you just go to HELL and DON't Come back ..If I had the money and could have gone to see the people - but I didn't. Every time I find one of them they have just died! ________________________________________________ Bullshit! I'm still alive and full of real facts, but since they did not come from the depths of your mind they are not factual. Well, I'm still here to repeat that all my tale is what really happened, and you can put the hot rod....... never mind. Bet I couldn't get an interview with Bill either. Or Nick, or Mac, or Karen, or Jo, or anybody else who really knows anything important. My interviews are limited to the brick wall dudes that stand as minute men to support the facade of the cover story of dead jumpers and shot bank robbers and decorated war heroes that just never were. It is like watching white rats on crack scurry around their cage, sniffing out every corner, but never going beyond the limits of the wire containment. Throw them scraps of titanium and tie clasps and watch them salivate. Throw them a little pilot meat and they puke all over the place. Must be the crack. Youse guys need to stay away from the drugs like I have. Helps you see the real picture. Like Walter Cronkite used to say, "And that's the way it was in 1971, except, YOU (I) were there!" Bite me. I tell the truth.

to date there is zero evidence of any electronics used in this crime... _______________________________________________ I hereby certify that radio tower signals (unregistered) on a mountain top were used in triangulation for dropzone location in combination with lights from a pump station to zero in on the predetermined jump location chosen by Duane Weber. The flight was pre-flown and practiced to verify trajectories and accuracy. These are facts. You can't prove or disprove them, but you will rant uncontrollably at your inability to discount it as not true. Truth is what truth is, no matter how hard you try to cover it up. Bite me. You are always wrong, it seems. Jo is right.

Finally MeyerLouie got tire of it and confronted him. Poof he was gone. Perhaps I will go POOF after this post. Blevins would put up his road blocks every time anyone came forward with knowledge of the crime and who resided in the N.W. Am I the only one who caught this? ________________________________________________ NO. I told you so, I told you so, I told you so!

well that sounds like I'm probably correct about the Canon photo, typically you have a one inch shoe heel Duane was pretty young in the Navy pic from what I recall, puts him over the Cooper limit but within the guidelines. DL can be anything close, they never check, they just ask how tall are you. he was young during his service years, still growing. I was looking at the pic today and that is when the lines caught my eye, seemed he was over the 6 foot mark. so to best sum it up Duane was 6-1 to 6-2 Duane's height was never listed as 6'2" on anything. It was always 6 ft or 6 ft 1 in. PERIOD. You two are saying the same thing. Matt McCoy claimed to be 6'1" and I was 5'11'. I swore that Mac was only 6', so we stood back to back and measured. He had on his black military boots with the big heals and I still say he was not more than an inch taller than me. Duane was an inch under Mac. So, if you go by McCoy, Duane would be 6' even, and I was an inch under Duane. No way that Duane was 6'1". I'd put him at same height as me at 5'11", but Mac was probably right.

I am Caretaker Al but not Catcher. I have numerous pictures given to me by McCoy, ONE embedded in Rocky V credits, referred to as a "Get out of Jail Free" card. And I have spoken to Mac recently, yes. Doesn't make me a nut, just one Hell of a lot better investigator than you. I'm not trying to cover up or change anything, just submit the facts. It helps like crazy to actually have experienced it first hand. Sort of gives you insurmountable power of total confidence when there is no question about what really happened. Another tidbit: Mac said he never knew anybody who ever worked for both the FBI and the CIA. He was assigned to Special Services. He was also friends with Jim Jones and attended his church services in the States. He was in Guyana a week before and a week after the suicide. Oh, and bite me! Sorry I forgot to make your day with that. Do some real investigations and impress everybody. You make Blevins' phony story sound professional. Sorry, Robert, nothing personal. I'm not your poster culprit. If I have something to say. I'll say it. No minced words or cloaked inferences. I was told by this other guy your story is a total fabrication, er, fiction. I totally believe him, as HE knows everything.

Jo, Mrshutter actually does have investigative skills and YOU DON'T! You see connections that couldn't possibly exist and then yell at others for not supporting your nonsense. And you have been doing this for years on DZ and other web sites. In case you can't remember them, just Google "Duane Weber" or even "MsCooper" or "MrsCooper", as you frequently refer to yourself, and take a look at what turns up. Your so-called "research" is baloney. You are free to waste your time but you want other people to waste their time also chasing after illusions. Robert99 You and MrShutter are the poorest excuse for investigators this world has ever seen. Never before has such a team of incompetents logged so many errors in a row. The only way anyone could compete would be to know all the right answers and TRY to get them wrong. But I repeat myself, again. Give it a rest, you can't change history. The truth is still available. And it ain't nobody but Duane Weber no matter how hard everyone tries to twist it. Facts is facts, and dat's the troof. Youse is wrong in everything you writes. And I do not drink, do drugs, or have a psychiatrist on call. And I CAN count to zero. Your "right on" count.

I put him in the parachute. McCoy, an FBI agent, and this other guy put him in the plane doing the highjacking, and Jo confirms the facts. You are just too political to accept it.

McCoy found out he still had the ticket and told him to destroy it. Duane burned it in an ash tray. Jo is correct about having seen it, it was THE ticket receipt. Bite me.

(Pablum Kid, McShudder) "and you Robert99 are an xxxx yea more of those xxxxx's. You are a phoney looney who pretends to know all and whose only assignment is to confront and dispurse. You loose!" And let it be known throughout the land these mockingbirds are pounding sand. Their minds are set on spinning tales to tar real facts, God's truth is banned. They have no edge, no facts to represent, no source who spills those beans they've canned. The only thing they offer is the aire of processed beans, been funneled through the man. Their flatulence is harming our atmosphere of a fair and honest society, based in truth and trust. In God we trust. Forget the Government! Right on, Jo!

End Of Story....back to Cooper???????? YOU have NEVER been ON Cooper!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKLoS2a-bmE

Nope. Two vitamin C, two tylenol, one lopressor, and a shot of 2%. Like clockwork. You didn't miss your chance for another "put down", did you. Always harassing, always attacking, always wrong. Perfect score. You should change your screen name to mrzero4Ø.

What everyone misses is what you can't see. Duane had on TWO PAIR of thermal underwear under his BYU-like street attire. I contend he had his boots somehow, perhaps in a chute. And who says the terrain was rough? I tell you the terrain was almost pastureland not forest. And the note asking for 20's was never turned in because it had other things on the note that spilled the beans. (Actually written by Richard Floyd McCoy, Jr.) But, what do I know. I was just there to witness what really happened. Not intended as a crime, but a civil demonstration of what COULD happen. Tricky Dicky used it to his advantage for a slightly different purpose. To leverage his Executive order on aircraft safety. It is all a matter of record. Look it up. Ask the key players. Use your head. Sheep. That's what I see. Sheep and turkeys.

You Sir, just made a public threat, of harm, to an individual poster of this thread. Matt ____________________________________________ By no stretch of my imagination. I copied a printed joke. The joke apples to anyone, including myself, who gets attacked for speaking out. No threats, just more truth. Matt, YOU are the one making all the threats. Shall we review? The only recent threat I have given was my little puppy for peeing on the floor at my feet. And that was an idle threat. She doesn't know any better, yet. Well, there ya go. You probably don't either. Wrong again. Always wrong. You are excused. I"ll continue to ignore you. Bantering can be fun, I guess, but it is not productive. Do you realize that none of you have asked a reasonable question of me? Only questions aimed at trying to make me look foolish. Conclusion: You do not seek the real facts involved, you only attempt to impose an alternate to the truth. George Tenant spoke the truth. Janet, Jo Weber, Mac, me, lots of folks have real facts that you try your damnest to plow under. Why you do dat? Just more Watergate trash permeating the Federal Offices. Just another dirty face scandal. SOP. So what? BFD.

Jo, You say you are an old lady with "nothing to lose" yet you tease about secret govt programs involving ex cons, etc. if you have nothing to lose then spill the beans. Do an exposé. Go public. Lets see what evidence you have to substantiate these spectacular claims. It's easy to tease and claim that national security prevents you from telling all you know. That story is repeated every night in a hundred bars by guys claiming to be spooks, spies, etc. Hope your health is improving. I give you a hard time here, but truly wish you the best. 377 A little bird was flying south for the winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field. While he was lying there, a cow came by and pooped on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was. The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy. A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him. Morals of the story: (1) Not everyone who shits on you is out to get you. (2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend. (3) And when you're in deep shit, it's best to keep your mouth shut!

Why Tenn.? We went much further than that. The answers I got were basically, we know, please be quiet. Go away. (Including Carr.) So threaten me some more. Doesn't change any facts. Fact is that it was Pentagon sponsored assisted by the FBI Agents at the request of the FAA, authorized by the White House. That is what no one will admit and what you and your buddies try to bury. Jo Weber has some of the story, but her ability to investigate is not so hot. There were no CB communications. The appearance of Cooper was a surprise to most everyone. It was, according to everyone, not expected. But it was planned. At little new info for MrShutter. Go figure.

The FBI made the announcement that tell tale evidence information had been withheld, like the BYU pin that went back to McCoy and was replaced by the tie clasp. But we don't want to talk about REAL facts, just the ones that the cover-up team wants to discuss. The Princess is out of the pumpkin guys! The glass slipper fits only Duane Weber, and there are plenty of silent witnesses that pulled off the caper for our tricky Government. Too obvious, too typical, too expected to be any other way. And I watched it unfold from the inside; I'm assuring 100%. stop with the stories Bob, why don't you answer Matts question Mr. Truth seeker? Why not answer Matt's questions? Why not argue with you? It is really simple. I know without question what happened and who did what for what reasons. And those people all know who I am. You two have an agenda to shut me down and not tell what I know, so why should I placate you? McCoy thinks it is funny as Hell to watch you squirm, trying to alibi your way out of this mess. Point fingers, examine the falsified records, beat that tie clasp into the ground. Lets talk to "Janet". What's O'Hara's 'secret'? What was the 'secret' conversation in Ralph's den? Who copped the BYU pin? What did CIA Chief Tenant tell Fox News about the truth of McCoy? Why did Richard Helms destroy so much MKUlta data? Did you know my friend, the Unibomber, was in MKUltra? Did you know McCoy used MKUltra? Have you looked at the timeline of the International Conferences on Air Piracy? The content of the actions or lack thereof? Have you looked at the members of Nixon's Committee on Air Piracy? Find Haapala? Have you reviewed the association between McCoy and O'Hara, locations, timelines? Who reported the Walker bank robbery plans to O'Hara? Karen McCoy..... Nobody talks to Karen. Nobody talks to Janet. Nobody talks to Mac. Everyone has their own pet story to perpetuate. FAKES, IMPOSTERS, COVER-UP ARTISTS for the Government.... Fabracators for the perpetrators. The only truth being told around here is Jo, and you make her use the "reportedly, accused, suspect, person of interest, terms" to soften her claims. Well, here is the skinny. Stop trying to throw the interest to ANYTHING you can dream up to fill the pages. TRUTH is that Duane Weber did the deed at the behest of YOUR Government for political reasons much different than what the pilots who set it up originally, had intended. The plan was to demonstrate how easy it would be to hijack a 727 and jump off, leaving Lord knows what damage to occur. Planes had become a flying bomb with lots of people at risk. Pilots had no defense and the procedures for hijackings were inviting to say the least. Pilots could not have guns, passengers could. Anyone had access to the planes on the ground or could enter the cockpit at will. Pilots tried to make changes but the Airlines and Boeing balked. Pilots threatened a strike. Worldwide pilot reaction resulted. LOOK IT UP. It is all fact. It is all a matter of record. And I have the records of what really happened behind the scenes. It is the result of a theory referred to as, "The Better Good." Study that one. Associate it with BYU. The entire plot was set up to throw blame on BYU. Semester break, BYU attire, Mac's BYU pin that Duane stole from Mac's dresser, a college prank perpetrated by "The Boys," the FBI students at BYU. "I have a grudge." Criminal type, coupon cigarettes, bar whiskey, rough demeanor, spill the booze, don't drink it...... All a front by a bought and paid for gopher. An MKUltra gopher. But it was called, "Blue Bird" to be accurate. You don't like accuracy, do you. What you don't know would fill a book longer than "War and Peace." What you tell us you think you know has already filled the latrine... once.

The FBI made the announcement that tell tale evidence information had been withheld, like the BYU pin that went back to McCoy and was replaced by the tie clasp. But we don't want to talk about REAL facts, just the ones that the cover-up team wants to discuss. The Princess is out of the pumpkin guys! The glass slipper fits only Duane Weber, and there are plenty of silent witnesses that pulled off the caper for our tricky Government. Too obvious, too typical, too expected to be any other way. And I watched it unfold from the inside; I'm assuring 100%.

"here are plenty of odd aspects to the FBI's investigation of Norjack but I don't see any of it as evidence of a conspiracy to cover up the real identity of DBC. Mistakes are made, poor decisions are made, opportunities are missed etc. Big investigations always have their share of errors in assumptions, techniques and analysis. That's just the way it is." Unless you were an "insider" and watched the whole thing unfold, were given a blow by blow account of what really happened. Maybe you even got the same information repeated and confirmed to you by another party to the party. EEEEoouuu! Then you would have a totally different perspective, huh? Sure would be able to skinny out the BS from the beef in double quicktime. Hint: Nothing is logical except the bottom line. It is all backwards or inverted from a mind that sees that as normal. Trying to analyze by factual data does not work. Try putting the landing point 15 miles from Tena Bar. Then add the search zone and "Janet" to the disinformation. Something smells fishy in the facts reporting department. And the tale grows like certain noses on DZ. And THAT is a very credible statement. So bite me.

Jo is RIGHT and you are wrong. The FBI is fibbing and YOU push the phony buttons. Pile up all your phony evidence and lose it like the real evidence. Investigate some more stupid Wild Goose Chase theories like micro-photographic analysis of cut parachute chords. Jo knows damned good and well what happened and YOU can't change facts. Check the REAL FBI/Pentegon files on this case. What a JOKE!!

"Anyone know what happened to Jerry Thomas? He used to [be] such a regular here." Yah, I convinced him that he had a good day job and should not harass Jo any more. I offered to expose his identity. It is best he is not here. Great guy, really. The JT persona just does not fit him.

I have said all that needed to be said. I'm not beating a drum, simply bringing up what happened for anyone who really cares. Not hiding, not 'giving up', just letting you make an ass of yourself. My credibility is fine, it is your agenda that is suspect. You see, I know things you swear are not true. That discredits YOU without question.