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I would delete my post if I could, and follow your advice. Lota something going on there. Blevins tried to blame me for it? Not my bag at all. I say what I think here, not under the table.

FYI: What's going on about you... This needs attention. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/01/secret-life-of-a-d-b-cooper-hijacking-witness-includes-disappearing-to-a-nunnery/ Bottom of the page. "Paul Q. even if I could give blevins the boot, I probably wouldn't, at least not from here. personally, I think snow and bob knoss have some kind of backdoor agreement to put blevins into a psycho ward. snow's not ever coming back to the dz and knoss is on a short leash with me. if you guys want to flex on this alternative site, have at it. some of this stuff is actually kind of genius. this is one cooper forum where blevins refuses to post. consider yourself lucky. over at the dz, blevins posts on my dime and that causes me a lot of intestinal problems. February 16, 2012 at 1:33 am | Report abuse | Reply Sangiro Quade: look, I really appreciate all the trash sweeping you do around the DZ. You're good at it. People think everyone knows how to sweep, but that's not until they've seen someone who does it for living. That said, we don't get enough money from the Google ads we force on everyone, to pay you more for policing this site too. Do it for fun if you want. But I think you'd have more fun if you did a jump once in a while? How long has it been anyhow? Hopefully you're getting a little bit of action more than you jump. Otherwise it's going to be hard to justify keeping you around. But then again, you are pretty good with the broom...Carry on. February 17, 2012 at 2:02 am | Report abuse | dhingy Quade; welcome to CNN's version, also known as Alternative Dropzone. I guess Bob Knoss basically outed himself for the Blevin's smear, no longer fearing you. Bob Knoss comes up with some doozies, doesn't he? One thing for sure, Mr. Blevins has allowed himself to be a huge target and a laughing stock. Bringing him back on board was good marketing for DZ since no one gives a hoot about DB Cooper anymore. We're having too much fun. CNN underground February 15, 2012 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse | Reply Quade Please keep the comments on-topic, for instance, about me or my views on life and people. February 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse | Reply B. Geestman strangel little thing, some guy named Bob Blevins called and offered me $10K cash if I would go public and say that I knew Ken Christianson was DB Cooper. he said his book bombed in sales that gayla was leaving him if he couldn't recoup immediately. i told Bob that he should just go to a psychiatrist and spend the $10k to get well, or at least better than he is now. that guys a complete wack job. besides how do we know that gayla isn't servicing someone else? February 13, 2012 at 11:08 pm | Report abuse | Reply Marla Hi, I'm considered good looking, enjoy long walks in the sand, talking about DB Cooper of course. Interested in long term relationship (18 months). Please reply with your vitae including all Cooper conferences attended or presented. Thanks! Marla February 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse | Farf I guess that about explains your relationship with Blevins, Geoff. We've all be wondering if you and Blevins got a thing going. Bob Knoss is only trying to be informative, so don't blame him. If Marla Cooper said that Blevins plays with himself in front of the computer then I'm a believer. Blevins is as much a mental case as can be found on the internet. Its popping up everywhere. Id be running off to Tibet too. February 11, 2012 at 9:57 pm | Report abuse | Reply Geoff Grey Would you people back off. I'm sick of the DB Cooper case and I don't want to be bothered by it anymore. It's given me nightmares and migranes. And please Robert Blevins, quit calling me in the middle of the night. Its giving my roomate fits and he doesn't like other men calling. You need to have boundries Mr. Blevins. I never want to talk to you again. The hell with all of you nutty people at the Dropzone and mostly you asses that never purchased one of my novels. G. Grey February 11, 2012 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse | Reply bobknoss Blevins, I bet you grew up as a little tattle-tale...............whining and reporting anyone who gave you a little sneer. How long have you been doing this as an adult? Don't you understand that you are nothing but a COWARD??? We at the DZ all know this, especially Quade himself. February 7, 2012 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse | Reply BobKnoss This is not my post. It is someone with a sick sense of humor, or a devious mind. I do not agree with any of the posted statements here and ask they be deleted as bunk. Thank you. February 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse | Jo.BobK.Farout.Slugs.Snow.andtheDZ Blevins, we all know that Kenneth Christianson was a molester of young boys. That was in Jeff Gray's first book. What we were all wondering is whether or not YOU are the real child molester? February 6, 2012 at 1:31 am | Report abuse | Reply MarlaCooper Mr. Blevins, are you back to playing with yourself again? Must have a huge void in your life. And btw, did you know that too much playing with yourself can lead to "insanity?" The DZ rests its case. February 4, 2012 at 5:28 pm | Report abuse | Reply"

See Dick run.

Somebody is posting more false crap about DZ posters. Really hitting into Blevins. Best you get on it and get it cleared up, Robert. This was Feb. 7-15, 2012 circa postings. This was not me. Blevins has other detractors that actually give a hoot. Farf has one there? Geestman? Geoffrey. This junk is left field.

Ha-ha! YOU HAVE NO evidence. You have rumors and misinformation. Radacyzak is the only one I know still holding hard evidence. They trashed the rest, or hid it in the evidence room boxes. You are like the Magician we watched in Colorado once. Before he came on the place started to stink. He did his whole act as the stink got worse. At the end he pulled a very mad skunk out of this top hat. That is your evidence, Sir. If it looks like, walks like, smells like, and associates with other debunked skunks,.......... It is not a bunny wabbit and you can tell that when you open the door. Nobody liked the performance, but everyone remembers it.

"In February, FAA created an eight-man Task Force on the Deterrence of Air Piracy that combined a broad spectrum of expertise under the leadership of the Deputy Federal Air Surgeon." Who were those eight men? This is basic Cooper Conspiracy stuff you should know. At the same level as, "Who signed the Declaration of Independence?" (Another conspiracy)

And when Ratacyzak, Ralph, O'Hara, Haapala, McCoy, and associates are all dead, you will read what I am telling you now, in the 'tell-all' books about, "Project Norjak," the "FAA Forced Play," and 50 years of cover-up. I'm just giving you the Enquirer early edition of what the story flash is going to be. Jo Weber is basically right. She is just a not so hot investigator of the real facts because she's working strictly on rumors like all of you. I was in the mix. Chocolate ice cream tastes different after you experience what they throw into it. You don't eat hot dogs for a long time after touring the packing plant either, but you sure as Hell remember it forever. I'm tellin' you, someone peed in your pop, and it ain't me.

Everything I say is as true as I can make it. Everything you say is a flame. End of responses to Crew Flamers as Quade suggests. CO2 on you!

Because they do not want to have to debate a qualified witness in a public forum, Jo. You have too much credibility for them to continue a charade in front of everyone. They know what went on, and their evidence room was turned into a treasure hunt. Not just Cooper evidence, but all evidence was affected by swapping out the cigarettes, etc. into other boxes. This would be a real zoo to get into. The LAST thing they want to do is get back into the Cooper case with all the Home Security Projects going on. Just my opinion. I think they know all they want to know, because there is no way they could proceed with this case. It is IMPOSSIBLE. If they pursue your requests, they step in a bucket of poo. Really, you know this to be the case, right?

Dick and Jane can't help you or ClassClown.

Quote [1) He picked a Thanksgiving day and night that the FBI would have trouble responding and making chase after him. They did not really get into the chase until the next day. ] They picked that day because it was BYU holiday and they wanted to throw blame back on FBI students. Hence Mac's BYU pin, narrow black tie, etc. And the choppers were right on his tail. FBI is always active. Reference Janet and the flares. [2) "Take me to Mexico" fooled them to take him where he wanted to go (PDX) without letting them know where he planed to jump. With stairs down, flaps down, the plane was flying as slow as possible and best condition for his jump.] How do you think he controlled the flight path?? How did he know technical jargon specific to a 727? "Mexico" was to lull them into thinking he wouldn't jump right away. [3) Asking for four chutes fooled the FBI into thinking he might jump with some of the crew.] Yes, that was a plan contingency! [4} He wiped the airplane clean of finger prints and left nothing behind. Fooling the FBI again.] He didn't have to, the FBI trashed the evidence instead. [5) There are many more thing but the best is his perfect alibi of where he was at the time of the Caper. They fell for that story, hook line and sinker.] Where? The cockpit? Cooper (Duane Weber) was never questioned and gave no alibi. He was protected by the instigators much better than McCoy was. Bob Knoss for the real truth about sailshaw's moronic ramblings. Can I say that, Quade? It's not name calling. Well, I take it back anyway. Wanna be the new, nicer, more civilized Burger King with special sauce. No fiction, no lies, just the unadulterated truth of what was really behind the scenes of flight 305 from a REAL first hand witness. No book, no appearances, no money, no friends, no fears, 'just the facts, Maa'm.' ....Jack Webb

If I can't call them names, then they can't call me names either!!! Quade's rules, Quade's playground. Bad boys should stand in the corner like you made me do. Fair is fair. I'm tellin' on them! Spanky, spanky. Idiots don't score in the 99th percentile.

You can't argue about facts. They prove themselves with time, or fade to their true worth. Like, "Ferdinand the Bull." Excellent reading for Dick and Jane graduates. I just want to help you move your book off the shelves, Robert. Replace it with Geoffery's book. Or Galen's new book, or Dan Cooper comics. Anything to get your book off the shelves. (smile)

Evidence? That is something you know absolutely NOTHING about. Please don't speak of evidence when you come to this thread with nothing more to offer than your (ass)..... ] The FBI said NO EVIDENCE! Not even close. I got the wannbe story before you. Maria is more believable. Farf thinks she is hot, KC is not. Geoffrey laughs. And the band played on. Glub-glub-glub. The facts are in broad daylight for anyone to analyze. I don't WANT to PROVE anything about my experiences. It is someone else's boat up the river without a paddle, not mine. In time they will release their own version, which will also not be the real story. Keep blowing smoke instead of contributing to the conversation. Your job. No problem.

Ha Ha! EVIDENCE?? KC has less proof than Maria! Farf likes her. We thank you for your opinion, however. You may be on to something important. I'm sure the FBI can't wait to hear your thoughts, too. Why don't you contact your local authorities and explain your evidence to them. They are there to help you with such matters.

WHO THE HELL IS THAT???? Not me!! You confused. Ask any question you want and I'll tell you what I know. There isn't enough bandwidth on here to cover everything. If I don't know, then Jerry can answer for me. Something about wadded wire? Something about a college pin? Something about Kool-Aide? Something about JE Ray? Something about Dog Pile? It's all dust in the wind, my friend. Minutia. Unimportant. No proof left. Cleaners been there. They look at Maria? No way. Where is your sense of humor. That is DROP DEAD FUNNY!!! Take a nap, oldtimer.

You have mis-understood my position. It was only about three years of planning and he died in 1995. His wife wanted to write a book, not "Cooper". You have the jest of the thing, though. Keep investigating.

Wonderful post. Robert. Does it tell you anything????? That chute is so far under volcano rubble, water? and God knows what, that anyone's chances of finding it are less than one over Goo-goo-plex.

You see why he was worried that someone would cry "Wolf" that the flight path and the reported flight path were not the same?? And we are discussing that here. It didn't just happen by mistake, it happened as an intended cover story that he though would fold up. Ralph sent him home. There is a reason why facts don't match up. Facts were altered for a purpose. Compare the facts, verify the truth and ask why the falsifications? What's the source? What's the purpose? This is the crux of the story on how things transpired. I'm not making anything up. The facts are what you guys are talking about. Just analyze the summary of what you are finding. I know it fits together as I suggest because THAT's what happened and it can be reconstructed. You just can't be so damned negative. Try it, you'll not like it.

DEBUNKED???? Not on your life! My information is factual, true and what really happened. You don't HAVE to accept it, but I WILL present it. It will make a few people really mad because THEY want to control history with fairy tales instead of the underhanded way our Government used to operate under past leadership, and maybe continues today. The Cooper Crew is not the controlling force of public opinion, they only ATTEMPT to sway opinion and cover up facts. There are still a few stalwart believers in Apple Pie. People see right through it. Read other forums, you guys are ridiculed for your biases. I don't care because I know better. When you're right, you're right. I'm right, so whine away.

OK. If my object was to fly an airplane on a special path, but make the record read differently, how could I do it? The method would have to be hidden in plain (plane (;#)) sight. Could I claim a really non-existent West to East wind that I had to compensate for by faking a crab and actually flying West? Then, with the wind supposedly blowing me back East, my fake flight record would show me 15 miles East of my now covert real flight path over the pipeline where I want to be. (Winds blow differently at different altitudes as I understand it, like the jet stream which pilots often use to their advantage. Not a wind expert.) When they search for the jumper they will be looking in the wrong place and he can escape easily. Hence, the big to-do thing to silence Janet. Plug the leak!! How's that? Don't want to lose this point, as it is extremely critical to how things were done, and it exposes involvement by others. (By definition that makes a conspiracy) That alarm term alone makes the story a, "Don't Touch This One, Story!" Now Mr. Blevins will probably scream idiot at me again, as we are getting down to basic building blocks of the real story. You'd think he would grab hold of this enlightening information and tie it to KC somehow. He knows I'm for real and he's supposed to to silence me, rather than help seek out information. THAT is a FACT and he proves it himself, day after day. Nothing personal. I understand. It's business.

Dumb question here (for once): Would cross winds being mis-stated cover for a crab right to a real position 15 miles west of the stated position? Ie., could the wind discrepancy cover the position shift undercover? Would that explain how the plane got West of Portland while still seeming to be East (or directly over)? Just askin'. I think maybe so. huh? Something going on here. Perhaps the Bohen report is correct and the other report was fudged? Naw, that would never happen, would it? Also seems to me that this particular plane had special new gear that the rest of the airliners had not been upgraded to yet. Kinda foggy, but I remember a discussion about new radios, extra radios, something. It was more advanced than the average goose? It could be vectored by the Pilot rather than the navigator plotting a course? A reported side wind would justify a flight crab correction while maintaining vectoring beacon signals? Naw, that would never happen. You'd have to be a damned skilled pilot to do that!

AMEN!

So, let's assume this to be true for purposes of discussion. Given the reports to the contrary, what obvious conclusions are possible that might be drawn, considering the sources of counter-information? Absentmindedness? A parallel World? Cover-up? Conspiracy? Cockpit involvement? Euphoria? Thor-envy? Tie the weather mis-reports to the flight path mis-reports and see if your conclusions become more suspicious. Does this help you reach any inkling of a bigger picture going on? It sure should. I'm not guessing here, I'm trying to let you see what I know. Doesn't take much to bridge the gap here. The whole project is smoke and mirrors just like the weather and the flight path, KC and all the other delightful diversions.

Jo: ....I even tried to make that darn gyro watch part of this, but you guys and others assured me the gyro watch had nothing to do with this. Come on, it was decided to not even have him wear an altimeter because it would raise suspicions about the level expertise involved. No oxygen, no helmet, no jumpsuit, no dynomite, no two-way radios, no Russian hardware. Ratacyzak is a name based in Afganistan, not Russian and there is no correlation whatsoever to Russian equipment. Totally irrelevant to even consider, so don't.