BobKnoss

Sorry Matt. You are not qualified. Can't trust you with liable information. I'm sure you understand. You need credentials, like an authorization from Bill Rataczak for me to release the documents. I understand he has said no comment. BS, I did not ask for that, I asked for your MEMORY of the events. Other wise it is just LSD induced lies. You now what LSD is, right? Matt MK Ultra was discontinued prior to 1968, but the mind control program continued to be recognized by that title. New name was Bluebird or Artichoke and those programs did not incorporate the experimental drug scenerio. Where do you get off making all these wild conclusions? And you want me to trust you with my information? Are you nuts? Your intentions are clearly not reputable. You are trolling for a flame under directions. Give it up. You are not good at this game.

I have proposed several suspects in concert and even sworn that I DO KNOW for sure. Your book is a joke and a diversion, a perversion of the Ultimate Answer, and I believe actually criminal. At best, you have an opinion supported by other opinions and maybe even a circumstance or two, if we are generous. What I propose can be verified by any or all of the suspects I have named, making it evidence of the first kind, rather than concocted poppycock like what Kenny presented through the Cooper Crew. I saw it happen, and "in my opinion," it was Rataczak that organized it. Duck and cover. Show a cartoon before the main feature. Get them laughing.

"In my opinion..." I have it on direct family source, that Rataczak himself doctored flight weather information for that evening. It was also quite easy to switch data from the next day. Not all information could be changed, so you will find conflicting data between data that could be altered and that they could not change. Use that for criteria in evaluating the accuracy of weather data for the two days. Swap data for some sources and you will find that things fit more comfortably in place. Don't take MY word for it, as I am a crazy drug muttled loony and do not know anything about Project Norjak. Or, so I've been told. So, whatever you do, don't check it out! Right, Jerry? You guys are real American heroes and it is time to stand up and be counted. Foresight of things to happen and the balls to do something about it.

JT, Jealous? Of what? Of whom? I don't see anything or anyone to be jealous of. Well, you are totally jealous of me, Jerry. Or are you just writing me off as gone? Robert99 has more correct information than you do. You are using information from the next day that was switched, deleted records and just plain doctored information. Robert99 has done the homework on the location AND the weather. If he keeps going, and if he would consider my suggestions, he is going to have the true facts. George Nutter (Tosaw) has a few good facts, too, but some 'dead' wrong conclusions. Jo Weber used to have good information, but it is all jumbled up now. You seem to have a fact or two now and then that I recognize as significant, but you are playing a different tune than the rest of the band. You seem to know Mac, do you know Denny? Mike? Mary? Hallie? Confetti? Guadalupe?

Sorry Matt. You are not qualified. Can't trust you with liable information. I'm sure you understand. You need credentials, like an authorization from Bill Rataczak for me to release the documents. I understand he has said no comment.

I have nothing to offer a whitewash, but I can offer honest answers to the questions you pose. I know what the original plan was, the exact words used in the planning, and you can evaluate whether or not that was what they actually did. Of course, if your objective is to steer suspicion in an obscure direction, then you probably don't want to hear anything that really happened relative to this case. Jo Weber has an agenda that is clear as a bell, but I don't agree with her decision. "The children" is no excuse to lie about what happened. Evidence is so tampered with that no arrests can ever be made. It all comes down to the question of Presidential authority vs. actual letter of the law. Does executing a "dummy plan" for persuasive purposes with no harm intended constitute an actual crime? Or is it just a "dirty trick"? Does tricking the World into signing on to our current airline safety procedures constitute an International Intelligence Secret? How long is a secret necessary to keep? How many other secrets are there that the Oversight Committee did not review? How much freedom do the agencies of the Government really have? Who is protecting what here? Where is the rule of law? Who gets the right to decide these high level decisions? Jo Weber? Ha-ha-ha! Give me a break! It is a catch 22. The old way of doing business the J Edgar way, or the Tea Party way where we actually hang 'em by the nuts until they tell the truth? Yah, I understand you don't want to hear my point of view in an open forum, but you brought it here. It's not about Duane, or Kenny, or whether or not you guys are really an organized crew under Cap. That's a given. The question is why even try to fight over spilled milk. It happened, it can't be resolved by the FBI anymore as the old guys have messed it up so bad the young guns can't straighten it out? There are a few of us that have put it all together and try to do the right thing. It is only fair that both sides of the story be told, not just HALF the story. The country will survive. We need to know that we can control these power grabs by a few and govern by the people as it was originally intended. I see you all as subversives to the rule of law. Now, you can he-haw your snide remarks on that one. It's not fantasy land, it's political realism. It is amazing what 20-20 hindsight can do for seeing the fabrications on this whole episode of comedy. Jerry really knows everything. This is no tabletop sandbox for discussing intelligence? Then WHY THE HELL DO YOU DO IT? We can see the lies. They stand out like gaping holes in the road of what really was. Impossible to repave over your bomb craters.

I KNOW! I KNOW! JERRY, I KNOW! Ask me, Jerry. Ask me! I KNOW! I heard the conversation and wrote it down! Is that evidence, Jerry? I still have it on paper and heard it with my own ears. No hear-say. I GOT YOUR ANSWERS, JERRY!! ASK ME???

You are only partially correct, I believe. Investigate that subject for the exceptions thereof. What makes my statements evidence? GOTCHA! So far you don't qualify for any "exception", so no "Gotcha". Your statement was that you heard it from others, "Hear say". If your going to claim you actually witnessed the training and crime being committed, the you would need evidence to corroborate your statement. With out evidence, there is no; "statement of fact". Besides, you apparently have no skills the group needed to commit the crime, so you could not possibly have been there or "in the know" or an accomplice. Matt Matt, you are so unformed that it is really difficult to communicate with you. I'd like to help you out, but I don't have the patience to deal with your negativity. For your basic premise, let me repeat for you benefit, I was put into this Project at the request of McCoy through coerusion by Commander John Anderson in lieu of 4 years in Levenworth. My special abilities were an exceptional memory augmented by MK Ultra. You know nothing of what transpired, and I do not expect you to be understanding, as Jim told me you joined the Crew. Gotcha. I won't respond to anymore of your posts. You have been exposed. Just trying to be nice, here. Ask Jerry. Jerry knows everything. Jo forgot more than Bleepins knows, and Bill ain't talkin' at all. Mac ain't sayin' nothin' either. But I DID talk with him often. At least HE didn't lie through his teeth..... ya'all.

You are ALL blowing smoke. Time will prove me totally correct. Jo, you lie like a drunk sailor. Your stories are fabrications and I have proved most of them. You just keep on telling the stupid stories. Your information is totally wrong and misrepresents the truth totally. I NEVER spoke to ANY of the McCoy family members. I hounded no one. YOU LIE! You are ALL grasping at straws to try to discredit the only information that rings true. Anyone with a little common sense can comprehend the real story. I get phone calls from people all the time who get it. Al the retired agents got it a long time ago. You are all so far out in this desperate world of finding anything to keep prying minds off the real story that you are actually FUNNY to those of us who know better. McCoy is dead? OK, whatever you say. You believe whatever you want. He is retired, I'll give you that. Which death do you prefer to use? The first, second or ? Depends on your level on the intel ladder. The shotgun death is level one, for idiots. Cancer of the leg is for the informed, then ? None of you apparently have any interest in exposing the truth, and that is what I totally expected. I speak to the readers who do, the 'flies on the wall'. I appreciate them all, and thanks for the support. Now, you can throw more lies as you haven't hit on anything valid yet!! Ya see. I know the program from the boss! You can't hide the truth with lies!! Truth ALWAYS wins out in the end. God, the Flag, Motherhood, Apple Pie, Chevrolet, and Da Fly Boys. Ha-ha.

You are only partially correct, I believe. Investigate that subject for the exceptions thereof. What makes my statements evidence? GOTCHA!

OK. Show is the record. You can't. It is allegedly proofed. So we are left with only your say so. Duane, a novice, on a ten second delay freefall at night with a high speed exit and an attached payload? Duane as the first jumper when you have McCoy who was a military parachutist, pilot and skydiver? Duane trusted with $200,000 in cash? Need I say more? Only idiots would make those choices. 377 You are calling Bill Rataczak and Richard McCoy idiots. Seems to me, since they pulled it off, they were something closer to successful patriots, or as Sylvester Stallone called them, 'real American heroes!' As far as I'm concerned, I don't really care much anymore. I find it humorous to be here expecting anyone to even discuss it. Beat it to death, maybe, but consider it? Ha-ha. I understand your job. Isolate and diminish, counter and obscure, bury 'em in bull shidt. Gotcha! Can't argue about facts. Facts all went "POOF". Crew guys keep puffing poof, or is it puffing poop and pooping proof.... All very similar.

It's not that I say so, it is what McCoy said. I believe McCoy based on the entirity of Project Norjak and the conformation of others involved. It is not MY say-so. it is a statement of record. You have absolutely no reference to claim my statements untrue. I do not have to prove anything, just like you proved NOTHING about KC! It is a matter of believability. The fact that nothing is believable by you, except what you think, explains and verifies my suspicions. Puppet do what puppet told to do. I stand on a more basic principle. "Thou shall not bear false witness." Ask McCoy. Ask the others. Expect false witness. They have an *. Not me. I am not guilty of anything. Jerry knows everything. It is Jerry's and Jo's sandbox. It's my litterbox.

Cooper pulled on a ten second count, and he went down face first. McCoy went down backwards. Ask McCoy. Don't ask Bleepins. He don't know squab from goose.

I strongly believe his ONLY purpose is to shield the Co-pilot, as the KC fable was oriented from that source and his name was mentioned as 'Crew'. That's what is under the pale, er, pail. "Bucket? There was no bucket! Milk pail. There was no milk pail! Wasn't Weber! Whatever you say is a lie, so there! I win!" And he takes his marbles and goes home. But, he's right back at it in an hour. I want to hold the buzzer.

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That's EASY! First is JANET! Second is the parachute chase and the "X". Third, the missing messages to the co-pilot. Fourth, that guilty naughty bad boy look. (attached)

The FBI can't do anything in an hour. Mickey Mouse is copyrighted. That automatically blows him out of the water here. Impossible. Blevins would go nuts. He's too tall, although his driver's license says he is shorter. He also has a friend, Donald Duck, who actually was related to the AFLAC duck who was a Northwest Airlines employee with a grudge. Very suspicious. Huey, Dewey, Louie and Goofy were probably conspirators for sure, but the hijacker was NOT copyrighted!

How about this: Duane Weber was a Peeping Tom. I had several complaints about a window peeper and caught Duane red handed on his hands and knees peeping into basement apartment bedroom windows early in the mornings. Picture attached of the location.

You are referencing pictures of Henry Selick who was a stand-in for McCoy, approved by Judge Ritter. I have detailed close-up photos available that show Henry before and after his free plastic surgery. I posted real pics of McCoy a couple days ago. You can also view the blow-up on DB Cooper Site, Facebook. Mac looked his real age, four months older than me, without his typical beard. Cooper was 20 years older! Mac had a full head of black hair, hazel eyes that he claimed were blue, they were not. And a Z shaped scar by his right eye. Contrary to official reports, he was never in VietNam and was given medals as a cover. He was actually training Weber during part of that time. He was an extremely experienced jumper at the time Weber jumped, not a beginner. The rest is classified. No comment. Ask Mac. McCoy was not Cooper. He was Mormon. He believed in the "better good" philosophy.

CORRECT! You win a stuffed AFLAC duck!

I completely understand. If it doesn't meet Cap's approval and offer a diffusion of suspicion in any other direction, it will not be allowed? If you have made a personal judgment on an individual Cooper buff with a position, it over-rides everything? Yet you suggest Jamie? Get serious. Let's expose the KC story for what it really is rather than beat on this Maria, who has the same basic premise as you. I heard a rumor that it really was Bing Crosby! I'm sure we can find lots of witnesses on that one! Do we have any volunteers? Give us a call and we'll coach you on your story. Anybody else wanna be Cooper? Slots are still open for the supposium. Yes, it's spelled right. Suppose this suppose that. Suppose we all actually tell the truth once. Gimme the buzzer!!

uhhhh... at the risk of sounding like someone else, what on earth makes you qualified to judge this? especially given your own vested interest in the matter? I should be the moderator and roast each speaker after their presentation. Hindsight as good as it gets! Can I get a full body armor suit and can we hot wire Blevins? I'll hold the buzzer.

You are REQUIRED by popular demand! It would take what, 10 minutes for you to get banned and escorted out??

Thank you for another Einsteinian postulate. See attached. Captured in a negative time-warp of his own making, poor Matt blew his nose too hard or something. What is your problem? Are they not paying you enough? Ask for a raise. They can afford it. I'll write you a great scathing report. Crew member of the year award? NAW! You funny guy, though. Just not real good at it. You've had enough experience harassing me on various sites, none effectively. Very obvious. Keep trying, Dude. I'll give you advice if you wish.....