Bob_Church

I think most of us figured out that the strychnine thing was just legend early on. But what about that other common belief about acid. That different batches had different affects. Aside from dose, is there anything that can be different between one batch of lsd and another?

"Release families on bond before their hearing. " Bond?

Not to mention that a brutal dictator of the most repressive regime on Earth, who had his uncle killed with AAA fire and his brother with nerve gas, is an "honorable man". Both strong points. I got nothing. Our President isn't negotiating for the people of North Korea, but for those of us in the US.

I have no beef with that, but note that good cloud services will provide better backup, tracking, and security than poorly managed, underfunded internal servers and systems that are getting out of date. Thus even some governments are trying to put data (including some classified material) in the cloud -- although within their own borders to prevent legal issues about foreign access to data. But wherever it gets stored, it's a question of who has access and who can delete, or prevent deletion, of the emails. When a subpoena arrives you can't just say, "oh, yeh, I canceled that particular account and everything was deleted, sorry about that."

I hope you don't have the model that keeps catching fire, or is that only in England?

When I was 16 or so we said that strychnine was being added to LSD to give better colors. The debate tended to break down into us boys who believed it, and blamed it for our nausea, and the girls, who were much smarter than us, and pointed out things like "that's a piece of blotter, where would you even put strychnine?" But I don't think any of us believed it by the time we were 18.

I don't think security is the entire goal. The other is to set things up so that email can be preserved and gone back over in case of investigations. It's like a lot of businesses that have the rule "if it's about this company it stays on our servers." This way they know that the backups keep a copy of who emailed who about what.

That's quite an ad. I wonder how affective it is since you'd pretty much have to be a skydiver to know how difficult that would be.

I'm thinking of long term changes from only a dose or two that people don't even usually consider. I think it was Peter Wright, I'd have to dig the books back out, who was a hard core by the book MI-5 agent. Later though he decided that the whole cloak and dagger thing was wrong, wrote a tell all book and moved to Australia to raise sheep. Oh, and he took LSD as part of the research into taking it as a spy tool. Coincidence? Maybe, but maybe not. And I know this is getting into colander hat territory but I wonder if the CIA didn't figure out that yes, this change of world view was a side affect of LSD and that's why they buried it as deeply as they could. If there is any truth to that theory, or even the possibility of it, they'd definitely want to keep that fact secret while suppressing LSD use as much as possible.

“Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there’s another side to the coin, and you can’t remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.” -Steve Jobs The older I get, the more I'm inclined to believe most people would be better off experimenting with hallucinogens than with religion. Ha! The last time I spoke to Jesus was during my only bad acid trip. I was 15 years old and worried that I would never come down! I stopped believing when I was nine, but that stuff they grind into you as a young child has a way of sticking in your head. Hey, c'mon. If people are willing to talk about how LSD rewires your brain can we do it in its own thread? It's interesting stuff. Plus, and no offense to Rob meant here, but I think the way LSD affects your mind would make you less prone towards religion. Depends on the tab, right? Purple Owsley isn't Orange Sunshine, so they say. Or the amount of strychnine.

“Taking LSD was a profound experience, one of the most important things in my life. LSD shows you that there’s another side to the coin, and you can’t remember it when it wears off, but you know it. It reinforced my sense of what was important—creating great things instead of making money, putting things back into the stream of history and of human consciousness as much as I could.” -Steve Jobs The older I get, the more I'm inclined to believe most people would be better off experimenting with hallucinogens than with religion. Ha! The last time I spoke to Jesus was during my only bad acid trip. I was 15 years old and worried that I would never come down! I stopped believing when I was nine, but that stuff they grind into you as a young child has a way of sticking in your head. Hey, c'mon. If people are willing to talk about how LSD rewires your brain can we do it in its own thread? It's interesting stuff. Plus, and no offense to Rob meant here, but I think the way LSD affects your mind would make you less prone towards religion.

On my computer the subject line is truncated to "Longest anyone's gone without" and I was expecting a very different discussion. I think Neil could have won that one.

Anyone interested in what actually happened at Evergreen should do a search on Bret Weinstein (no, no relation to THAT weinstein) Here are a couple of good starts. The first one may be a little confusing because it was written before he resigned. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/opinion/when-the-left-turns-on-its-own.html "Bret Weinstein is a biology professor at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Wash., who supported Bernie Sanders, admiringly retweets Glenn Greenwald and was an outspoken supporter of the Occupy Wall Street movement. You could be forgiven for thinking that Mr. Weinstein, who identifies himself as “deeply progressive,” is just the kind of teacher that students at one of the most left-wing colleges in the country would admire. Instead, he has become a victim of an increasingly widespread campaign by leftist students against anyone who dares challenge ideological orthodoxy on campus. This professor’s crime? He had the gall to challenge a day of racial segregation." His resignation is explained in https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/evergreen-professor-at-center-of-protests-resigns-college-will-pay-500000/

I've run into this problem, I think that once someone has responded you can't delete. Maybe edit. Sorry, I haven't worked out a pattern yet.

The fame might not, but the cat food definitely will.

"He's Bill, I'm Will, and I just might be dumber'n you think!"

I'm getting whiplash. "How could he say bad things about him when we need to negotiate" "How could he praise a dictator" "I'll take 'Can't Win Either Way' for $200 Alex"

It was an honest mistake. She heard someone say "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" and didn't realize she was in History class.

The final statement was "A short time later St. Paul Public works announced that the raccoon was no longer stranded." That could mean a couple of things. Maybe in a brief moment of self-delusion Rocky Raccoon imagined himself as Rocky the Flying Squirrel. Or worse, for a brief period of time he was.

The final statement was "A short time later St. Paul Public works announced that the raccoon was no longer stranded." That could mean a couple of things.

I know the one hand on each handle is a good method because that's what Gene Taylor teaches. But since I was taught differently I stick to the one handle at a time method. And any novices reading this need to remember to go with what their instructors teach them and practice it over and over again on the ground. And then some more. Get it burnt into your muscle memory to the point that if your brain locks up your hands will just go ahead and do it for you.

It'll take some straightening out. It will be interesting, if I'm still around long enough, to see what the next generation of students wants. The only thing certain is that it will be something different, and I don't mean that in a negative way. In the meantime pretty much any university administration can look at the bright side by reminding themselves that they're not Evergreen College in Olympia. As I typed that I heard a great voice cry out in the ether, the voice of a million higher education administrators shuddering.

What it comes down to I guess is that I just can't adjust to the idea of university student's protesting against free speech instead of for it. It is a major change, and I don't think anyone can deny that. I remember soon after I'd started working at OU mentioning that I was going to Skokie Illinois (I was going to Paragear while I was visiting in Chicago, something I try to do regularly) and it drew blank looks? "Skokie, ok? What about it?" I tried to explain the ACLU's actions defending the neo-nazi's march and I'm not sure they believed me. I'm just not good at adjusting.

They have the power of ideas. Real power flows from the end of a gun. That's what Mao said and at the time he probably even believed it, but then in the 60s he found real power when he turned his own people against each other in the Cultural Revolution. Why waste bullets when they'll kill each other to show their loyalty to him? Now the US is being torn apart by people knowing that they are right and hating the others for being wrong.

You're way behind the times. They do have the power now and never miss a chance to abuse it. In the 60s they shut down buildings and burnt the ROTC, including the one right behind our house, but they didn't get anyone they didn't like fired. And if you don't believe that that is exactly what's going on then you're out of the loop.