Bob_Church

You can't make the good stuff up.

I'm not referring specifically to these deals but what I've always wondered is who decides when it's an economic booster or it's corporate welfare?

Or they don't want to be attacked and have to defend why they support him. There are smart people that support him, I would like to understand why. I thought I could gain some insight with this thread, purposefully thanking anyone who would share to encourage more people to share. I tried to stop debates into their reasoning so that more people would share. I failed. Derek V I know several actual Trump supporters. Not people who consider Trump the lesser of two evils but actually like him as President. I admit that I don't understand them, and believe me, they've tried to explain. But what I do know is that they're absolutely nothing like they're portrayed. Some of the smartest and best educated people I know are full tilt Trump supporters. One thing I've noticed about most people who describe Trump supporters is that it becomes very obvious very quickly that they're talking out of their ass.

Public Utility Commission (the O is for Ohio, so you have to provide your own last letter as appropriate)

I wonder if he looked the current situation over and decided he'd have to stick it out for six more years instead of two so packed it in.

I think that's something that HRC supporters don't understand. I honestly don't believe that. I believe that she has a personal agenda and the country comes a far second. I don't throw that out there to say you're wrong, or convince anyone else to believe it. And I'm definitely not going to waste my time trying to explain to others why I believe it. But I just felt like it's an important thing for people to know when they're considering what's what in the US and why some things have gone the way they have because I'm far from the only person who believes it. In fact, I would guess that it's the main reason so many people held their nose and voted Trump.

"Well, you see the schools are at the top of the hill and downtown is downtown, it's trickledown learning. Just while I was there Clarence Thomas's son was two flights down from me," My office was about four doors down from Pete Souza's. I never got used to seeing him in the Oval Office. Edit: up until he got called away to The White House, that is.

I can only notice my tinnitus in quiet environments. My problem is hearing people over the blender running in every room I enter. The only good thing about it is that I prefer blaming my increasing deafness on skydiving instead of age. Tom Hantack is 14 years older than me and once said "Bob, my favorite thing about skydiving is that every time I wake up with a new ache or pain I don't have to blame it on getting old."

Jerry Towner had more cutaways than everyone else I know combined. He would grab a fistful of lines and growl as he shoved them, fist and all, through the rubber bands. One time he paid a rigger to swap his reserve, he was switching things around. This was now his secondary rig for Bridge Day. First, he said, the rigger said something about how it had been over three years. Then he laughed really loud when describing how the rigger discovered that he'd had two water jumps since then. The rigger had to dig caked dried mud and mold out of his links and lines. That's why I laughed when they said "an aad may have prevented this fatality." It's number 26 here http://www.skydivingfatalities.info/search.asp?MinDate=1%2F1%2F1997&MaxDate=31%2F12%2F1997&Country=US&CountryOp=%3D

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1997/06/25/bus_nike.html And in all the years I've been visiting I've yet to see the prison rescind a rule, no matter how irrelevant it becomes. Dealing with them is like watching Brazil again. So it wasn't the Swoosh but the other symbol. I can't remember if I'm misremembering or if Mike, the inmate who warned me not to send them, had it wrong. He started his sentence in 1999 so it's been awhile. I sometimes wonder how they're going to have more rules to institute, they just keep coming up with them, and no slack. And I really do mean no slack. One morning we arrived at Huttonsville and they had a new rule. It was written in magic marker on a piece of notebook paper and taped to the door, it was that new. It said that visitors could no longer wear perfume. They had decided it interferes with the drug sniffing dog. You'd expect that visitors would see the sign then obey it next time they came, they'd been warned, but no. They were turning away anyone wearing perfume that morning. One woman was crying in the parking lot. She'd said she'd driven the day before to a motel then got up that morning to visit her husband. But they wouldn't let her in. There was a stream of women heading to the parking lot who weren't allowed to visit despite being dressed and wearing the same amounts of perfume as before. The administration for these places is just plain cold.

I have a friend in prison in West Virginia and we aren't allowed to send socks or anything else made by Nike. They're afraid that Muslim inmates will be offended because the swoosh looks like some Islamic symbol. Another complete falsehood. The Nike swish is not offensive. Nike had a line with a symbol that looked like a fire that very closely resembled the word Allah in Arabic. It was in the early 90s. They dropped it and recalled a bunch of product. More than 20 years ago. Unsurprisingly the West Virginia Department of Corrections hasn't changed its policy banning them.

I have a friend in prison in West Virginia and we aren't allowed to send socks or anything else made by Nike. They're afraid that Muslim inmates will be offended because the swoosh looks like some Islamic symbol.

I'd definitely recommend both. You can make notes of any sort and get other jumpers' signatures in the physical one, and look up things in the computer version, then maybe even go to the paper logbook for more details. Bob

He didn't. He said that he thought that any business person has the right to refuse service to anyone. That's not the same as "condoning racism." At most it is providing others with the opportunity to be racists. You think it should be legal to own guns. Does that mean you publicly condone murder? Not publicly. If Ron believes it's cool for a business to turn someone away for no other reason than the color of their skin, how is that not condoning racism? I never said that. It is your imagination. Then set the record straight with a direct and affirmative answer. Do you believe a business should be allowed to discriminate, as in deny services or goods to someone, on the basis of skin color, sexual orientation or religious belief? Why should he do that? Did he lose a bet or something and now he's obligated to you?

Today I got a couple more of my prints back from the people framing them. This one is by Patty Mitchell from 1991 but my wife instantly latched onto it and said "this is a moment we could really use today." Sorry about the really bad snapshot. It comes no where near to doing it justice.

That was deeply screwed up.

I never had enough money for a new rig so I had R-3s on my Green Star Trak 2 for several years after the far superior three ring came out. I wanted it, but had to wait.

I think Nietzche nailed this one. "He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster." I think this was a very bad move, but it's not Sanders I'm worried about. Edit: as far as eating there, serving their customers would have been professional. I think what they did was very unprofessional, and I'm not going to eat food that unprofessional people have been alone with. Like I said earlier, what if I'm wearing a skydiving t-shirt? I've had to explain to more than one Art student that no, being a skydiver doesn't mean that I'm a right wing hardcore bad-ass who hates gays. If someone in the kitchen crew thinks this and sees my shirt am I going to get the "chef's special?"

My second wife was full blooded Indian and when we broke up I kept expecting an arrow between my shoulder blades. And she was a good enough shot with the bow and arrow to do it.

I just hope everyone here has heavy rubber boots.

They generally were profitable for him. At the expense of his partners and suppliers. Yes, from what I've read of his "business model", it was: 1. Borrow as much money as possible from investors and banks. 2. Pull financial shenanigans to sweep his personal debt into the company, and sweep company money into his personal accounts. 3. Declare bankruptcy, and walk away leaving investors and banks holding the bag. The amazing thing is that the people he hurt the most, the working class person, are arguably the ones who got screwed the worst. (I realize that the term arguably is pretty much redundant on this forum, but) He boasted about using local contractors, which he did, but he never said anything about actually paying them. He declared bankruptcy in ways that left him wth a bag of money and left them with a very cold Christmas.

I had a few things to add but it depends. Two questions for you. Do you have to be a Trump supporter, or can you post about people you know who are and especially in the (few) ways you agree with them? And two, can we just post it as what we have to say and move on. But I think we've answered that one.

Yeah, birth control and dinner are totally the same. That's downright silly. The issue is people deciding to not do their job because of their personal beliefs. It doesn't matter what the product or service is.

I mention this because it fits in with something I'm doing now, or trying to do. What I'm doing would be a lot easier with more data. What I'm saying is don't slack off on your logbook. For your first jumps you'll obsessively write down every detail. Try to not get out of that habit after a few dozen or hundred jumps. Someday in the future you'll wish you had instead of trying to piece scenarios together by asking other jumpers. It's like commenting code. It doesn't always seem important but it is.