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"I'm asking out of interest, not confrontation." Wrong place for THAT attitude . Hepatitis can be spread other ways besides sexual activity. I'm unfamiliar w/the HPV vaccine. So, I don't have an opinion on its safety. I can tell you that kids are hitting puberty earlier than in years past. I've seen a lot of young girls enter menses by 10yoa. Doesn't hurt to be safe, IF it's safe.

He blamed me for something I didn't do. Beats me, Wendy. Petty excuses for starting a row. In SC? Who'd a thunk...

My $0.02? I've fired several different Glocks, & liked all but their tiny 9mm. They work very well, & are practically indestructible. Conversely, I've two friends w/XDs. Both XDs have proven to be temperamental, & very picky eaters. I vote Glock. The G23 is an excellent all around weapon.

Don't confuse them w/facts. They're on a tear ...

He quoted your mess of a post which caused his response to be bolded and probably just didn't proof read to notice it. Its your fault, own up to it. Do they have legalized Marijuana where you live? How is it my fault he used bold print?? My reply didn't come out in bold print.

It's 69 shots through age 18. Read the Link...

So you posted incorrect and misleading information, still have no scientific studies to back up any of your suspicions, and get angry when somebody points these facts out and attack that person? And then you want to point out that it is a discussion and call me argumentative and ignorant? OK, whether vaccines cause problems or not is a matter of evidence and proof, not simple opinion. I have no issues with you personally (except for you apparently wishing me to be killed) and honestly fail to see where I have been argumentative in any way. I've simply posted evidence and challenged you to do the same. Using bold print, & being obtuse doesn't make you right. It just makes you obtuse... I'm done w/your BS. The OP got the message, & saw through you, too.

Sounds like you are well on your way to making an informed decision. Glad the chaff being thrown around here didn't cloud your vision. I would beg to differ w/your view on the Polio vaccine, though. I too, used to know someone who got a mild case of it as a child. As I've stated previously, it's a cost/benefit scenario. Polio isn't something to play with. We live in an era where People routinely fly here in matter of hours from Third World countries. That Vaccine is very safe. Your Child wouldn't be getting the older style oral version. Serious complications from the IVP vaccine given in this country are extremely rare. Best of luck in your decisions.

Do you have a source for anybody recommending 175-200 vaccines? The CDC says they recommend 16: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/multiplevaccines.html Fair enough. I just found this w/a quick search: how many vaccinations do u.s. children/receive? It shows 69 shots being given to kids, not 16. When I was a Child. I only received the 16. 69 is still more than 400% more... My point stands, along w/the others I've made. I've been in health care for almost twenty years, now. I've made my conclusions. You're welcome to yours. I actually vaccinate children on a routine basis using this: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html Perhaps you can pick out a few of them that you wouldn't mind seeing your child contract. Then your hands are far from clean, & your bias is showing... Save your empty scare tactic for the ignorant. Save your taunts for someone who cares... Besides, your messiah Obamanos is gonna save us all, right ??? I'll take sides with Louis Pasteur over the likes of Michelle Bachmann and Alex Jones any day. I never mentioned either of those people. Another BS response from a bullshitter. Carry on...

"So where did you get the 175-200 number? Did you just make it up? [B]Honest mistake. I could've sworn I'd read 175 shots, somewhere. No, I didn't just make it up. I'd initially said that I haven't researched this topic in great detail. Do try to pay attention. Your link shows 69 shots but still only 16 diseases being vaccinated. Which vaccines do you think are causing which problems? [B]Hey Einstein, have you considered that it might be the frequency, & not a specific vaccine? 69 Shots are 69 Shots. That's a Hell of a lot more than 16... Each one is a further roll of the dice w/their immune systems. Do you have any sources linking vaccines to autism?" [B]That's a BS question, & you know it. I've already answered this. Read my posts, & for the last time: go argue w/someone else. I've zero interest in what you choose to do in this matter. Argumentative ignorant People, defending their uninformed views, are why more people don't bother w/this forum. For example, read my reply to WRJoe. It's a discussion, not a confrontation. Now, kindly go text in a movie theater...

Do you have a source for anybody recommending 175-200 vaccines? The CDC says they recommend 16: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/multiplevaccines.html Fair enough. I just found this w/a quick search: how many vaccinations do u.s. children/receive? It shows 69 shots being given to kids, not 16. When I was a Child. I only received the 16. 69 is still more than 400% more... My point stands, along w/the others I've made. I've been in health care for almost twenty years, now. I've made my conclusions. You're welcome to yours. I actually vaccinate children on a routine basis using this: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html Perhaps you can pick out a few of them that you wouldn't mind seeing your child contract. Then your hands are far from clean, & your bias is showing... Save your empty scare tactic for the ignorant. Save your taunts for someone who cares... Besides, your messiah Obamanos is gonna save us all, right ???

Do you have a source for anybody recommending 175-200 vaccines? The CDC says they recommend 16: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/multiplevaccines.html Fair enough. I just found this w/a quick search: how many vaccinations do u.s. children/receive? It shows 69 shots being given to kids, not 16. When I was a Child. I only received the 16. 69 is still more than 400% more... My point stands, along w/the others I've made. I've been in health care for almost twenty years, now. I've made my conclusions. You're welcome to yours.

Don't know you, & don't care to argue... I've already stated my opinions in this thread. You, & the OP, are free to make up your own minds about it. I do hope you're not blindly trusting your Govt. to not lie to you about this, though. You know how many absolute bogus studies I've seen in my day? All of those Studies bought & paid for by monied interests. Big Pharm & their big Govt. friends have vested interests that aren't inline w/ours.

"If it's a result of the vaccinations, why did the autism rate not start going up when vaccinations were started? What changed in the vaccinations between when they started in the middle of the last century and the nineties when autism rates started increasing?" IMHO, it's the deluges of assaults on children's immune systems that are to blame. I'm pushing Fifty, Joe. I only received a handful of shots, as a kid. Nowadays, Kids are being bombarded by waves of assaults on their immune systems. Last count I read, was a total of 175 vaccinations. Might be even higher, now. More than this, is a principle called Polypharmacy. In this context, it refers to the impossibility of knowing all possible adverse drug interactions between so many different vaccines. The waves of Vaccinations are bad enough. Couple them w/unknown interactions between so many different shots. When I see these factors, & combine them w/too many case studies of healthy children gone right after a wave of shots? I can only come to one conclusion. Others here have twisted my position to mean I'm against ANY vaccination. That's absurd. Diseases like Polio, MMR, & others SHOULD be vaccinated against. Two hundred Vaccinations is another matter, entirely.

Got a Link? MMR are but three of 175... You're being Penn & Teller-ish. Former Eastern Bloc nations have other variables to be considered.

I like Penn & Teller, but... Their demonstration only cited several of the worst offenders (i.e.: Polio) that should be vaccinated against. Last count I heard, was 175 vaccinations given to kids. That has to be 100+ separate threats. What are all those other $hot$ for? Their presentation misrepresents the danger. Also, they infer that no Children are being vaccinated. That's very different than only your child not being so. Huge difference when it's YOUR Child...

This is a toughie... Not having children, I've never had to dig into it. The last numbers I've read on Autism's incidence rate, were approximately 1/175 births. You sure of your source for 1/50? Outbreaks of those once dreaded childhood Diseases are invariably traced back to pools of unvaccinated children. Often, the Reservoir proves to be a pocket of kids in some religious group that forbids vaccinations, or illegal aliens. Vaccines don't always confer 100% immunity. That's why unvaccinated Children put the others at risk. Not having looked deeply into the problem, I've still read too many case studies surrounding adverse reactions to vaccinations. IMHO, there is clearly something there. The Govt. lies like a rug. I don't believe their repeated assertions about vaccine safety. Every time you're vaccinated. You're taking a chance that your body will react to it in a negative way. Here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19388722/ I work in nursing, but don't take the flu or pneumovax shots for these reasons. I've accepted vaccines for greater risks, like HAV & Shingles. Kids today are hit w/something like 175 freakin vaccines. That's insanity. I haven't read what they're all for, but seriously doubt their necessity. I don't envy you your decision. Is Home Schooling an option? You're forced to vaccinate if your children attend public schools, correct? How about finding some obscure religion to join on the Net (seriously)? Best of Luck in making this choice.

Somehow, I suspect that Montana's 2014 vote for legalizing Marijuana will be a landslide victory, this time . Funny how that works ...

PETA would go nuts! Chuck PETA be damned. We could take out some trash, while fine tuning a new way of...taking out the trash. If the Liberals are so aghast at taking care of business. They can contribute to the effort w/something more than their incessant whining. They'd be showing us how superior they are ...

"I don't know why they don't use the gas chamber. Only instead of filling it with cyanide, fill it with nitrogen." Too expensive.

"That's kinda ugly to say! How about lab rats?" How about some Liberals ??

"Society shouldn't be emulating criminals." We're not. We're merely taking out the trash...

Wasn't it cruel and unusual punishment when he raped and murdered that girl, & unborn child? Chuck FIFY.

"Try again - a doctor walks up and sticks a knife in you just to 'see the light go out in a stranger's eyes". Now an accountant walks up and sticks a knife in you just to 'see the light go out in a stranger's eyes". Why do you think the doctor should go to jail for more years than the accountant?" Because the Doctor swore the Hippocratic Oath: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/hmd/greek/greek_oath.html

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