captain1976

Yeah the stow is on the rear portion of the slider in the middle. I leave my rig at the DZ, but i will get a picture this weekend and post it up. Yes, I would love to see it too. I'm too old to take many openings like Saturday, and with a slippery canopy like these new ones I think it adds a bit of a safety margin. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

People didn't bellyache about civilian casualties when America's intervention brought peace to the world in WWII. If America stayed out of it, Countries in the South Pacific would be run by the Japanese and the whole of Europe would be under German rule. Big responsibility America has and you can't blame the whole country for the inappropriate action of a few. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

QuoteHey, where did you get the list of people that died by taser? Just curious because I wasn't able to find that list. As far as I know every person who has died form being struck with a taser has had underlying medical conditions. I found it here; http://truthnottasers.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-follows-are-names-where-known.html You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Hate to revive an old thread but I sure wish I found it earlier since I’m sitting here in pain 4 hours after my last jump. I often brag about my Spectre 230 and how it snivels and actually came to believe that it was incapable of anything but a nice smooth comfortable deployment. Guess what? They can and will bite you like I read here. I think complacency led to being lazy about the slider as I’m sure that was the culprit. Having just packed it yesterday, I remember the slider coming down while packing and I just shoved it back. It was also a pretty sloppy pack job, but I’d done ‘em before that way with no issues. When it opened, everyone at the DZ “knew” what happened. I was told it was pretty loud. I packed it up and there’s no apparent damage as I inspected the hell out of it including all the line attachment top & bottom and did a thorough inspection of the harness. This opening put welts on my crotch, something smacked me in the face giving me a nice bruise “I think it was my arm”, and I did something to my neck and back. Tomorrow should be interesting. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

So sit back and monday morning quarterback and bitch is more effective? Instead of a citizen academy just go do a ride-a-long and see things from the officers point of view. It was an eye opener for me to say the least. You will also learn they are not a bunch of electron wielding nutjobs like you are trying to paint. Of course they aren't nutjobs! And I know the youtube shit is not the norm. I have cops as personal friends as well as family members. I just don't like tazers!!! I don't see a need for them because they kill. I'm still from the school that says let 'em go. Except for the really serious "dangerous" shit, the normal bust probably has something to do with laws I have little respect for anyway. Remember, the drug laws in effect keep millions of people in jobs. Its not whats right or wrong, todays laws all have financial consideration. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I have no interest in a "citizen's police academy", its not my job. The Cops who use tasers are generally excused regardless if the recipient is dead because he or she followed department rules regarding use of the stun gun. The citizen they accosted for a minor violation is just as dead as if they had taken out their 9mm sidearm and shot him. What that means is that an offense as minor as swearing at a cop or not responding fast enough to an order from a police officer could become a capital offense. The risk to citizens-at-large is too great for police officers to be allowed to use stun guns for anything less than a life-threatening situation. Just go to youtube and see the footage of how many cops used stun guns out of anger to punish people they were forced to chase on foot or during a car chase. Its apparent in almost 100% of the stuff I have seen that the cop takes it personally. “YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY” Get this personal shit out of your minds or get another job. Stun guns are only slightly less dangerous than real guns. In the hands of an angry cop who thinks his "suspect" is still resisting because he's twisting in agony on the ground—and gives him another pulsating burst for good measure—a stun gun can be just as lethal as a gun. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I don't watch the cop shows on TV, they piss me off at how a lot of police treat fellow citizens. The tazer is a dangerous weapon and if a cop can't handle someone, get backup or just let them go. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Taser is over when its over. Yes, and sometimes whats over is your life. 476+ DEAD AFTER TASER USE What follows are the names (where known), dates and locations of all North Americans who have died after they were shocked with taser weapons by law enforcement officials. 1. April 11 1985, Cornelius Garland Smith, 35, Los Angeles, California 2. March 9 1993, Michael Bryant, 35, Los Angeles, California 3. June 1, 1996: Scott Norberg, 32, Maricopa County, Arizona 4. September 28, 1999: David Flores, 37, Fairfield, California 5. May 14, 2000: Enrique Juarez Ochoa, 34, Bakersfield, California 6. June 17, 2001: Mark Burkett, 18, Gainesville, Florida 7. December 15, 2001: Hannah Rogers-Grippi, 6 months fetus, Chula Vista, California 8. December 17, 2001: Marvin Hendrix, 27, Hamilton, Ohio 9. December 21, 2001: Steven Vasquez, 40, Fort Lauderdale, Florida 10. January 27, 2002: Vincent Delostia, 31, Hollywood, Florida 11. February 12, 2002: Anthony Spencer, 35, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 12. March 27, 2002: Henry Canady, 46, Hilliard, Florida 13. May 17, 2002: Richard Baralla, 36, Pueblo, Colorado 14. June 10, 2002: Eddie Alvarado, 32, Los Angeles, California 15. June 15, 2002: Jason Nichols, 21, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 16. June 28, 2002: Clever Craig, 46, Mobile, Alabama 17. June 27, 2002: Fermin Rincon, 24, Fontana, California 18. June 2002: Unidentified male, 39, Phoenix, Arizona 19. July 19, 2002: Johnny Lozoya, Gardena, California 20. July 19, 2002: Gordon Jones, 37, Windermere, Florida 21. September 1, 2002: Frederick Webber, 44, Orange City, Florida 22. November 7, 2002: Stephen Edwards, 59, Shelton, Washington 23. March 16, 2003: Unidentified male, 31, Albuquerque, New Mexico 24. April 16, 2003: Corey Calvin Clark, 33, Amarillo, Texas 25. April 19, 2003: Terrence Hanna, 51, Burnaby, British Columbia 26. May 10, 2003: Joshua Hollander, 22, Normal Heights, California 27. June 9, 2003: Timothy Sleet, 44, Springfield Missouri 28. July 22, 2003: Clayton Willey, 33, Prince George, British Columbia 29. August 4, 2003: Troy Nowell, 51, Amarillo, Texas 30. August 8, 2003: John Thompson, 45, Carrollton Township, Michigan 31. August 17, 2003: Gordon Rauch, 39, Citrus Heights, California 32. September 24, 2003: Ray Austin, 25, Gwinnett, Georgia 33. September 29, 2003: Glenn Leyba, 37, Glendale, Colorado 34. September , 2003: Clark Whitehouse, 34, Whitehorse, Yukon 35. October 7, 2003: Roman Pierson, 40, Brea, California 36. October 11, 2003: Dennis Hammond, 31, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 37. October 21, 2003: Louis Morris, 50, Orlando, Florida 38. November 6, 2003: James Borden, 47, Monroe County, Indiana 39. November 10, 2003: Michael Johnson, 32, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 40. November 11, 2003: Kerry O’Brien, 31, Pembroke Pines, Florida 41. December 9, 2003: Curtis Lawson, 40, Unadilla, Georgia 42. December 9, 2003: Lewis King, 39, St. Augustine, Florida 43. February 4, 2004: David Glowczenski, 35, Southampton Village, New York 44. February 12, 2004: Raymond Siegler, 40, Minneapolis, Minnesota 45. February 21, 2004: Curt Rostengale, 44, Silverdale, Washington 46. February 21, 2004: William Lomax, 26, Las Vegas, Nevada 47. March 23, 2004: Perry Ronald, 28, Edmonton, Alberta 48. March 28, 2004: Terry Williams, 45, Madison, Illinois 49. April 1, 2004: Phillip LaBlanc, 36, Los Angeles, California 50. April 16, 2004: Melvin Samuel, 28, Savannah, Georgia 51. April 18, 2004: Alfredo Diaz, 29, Orange County, Florida 52. April 27, 2004: Eric Wolle, 45, Washington Grove, Maryland 53. May 1, 2004: Roman Andreichikov, Vancouver, British Columbia 54. May 13, 2004: Peter Lamonday, 38, London, Ontario 55. May 22, 2004: Henry Lattarulo, 40, Hillsborough, County Florida 56. May 27, 2004: Frederick Williams, 31, Lawrenceville, Georgia 57. May 30, 2004: Darryl Smith, 46, Atlanta, Georgia 58. May 31, 2004: Anthony Oliver, 42, Orlando, Florida 59. June 4, 2004: Jerry Pickens, 55, Bridge City, Louisiana 60. June 9, 2004: James Cobb, 42, St. Paul, Minnesota 61. June 9, 2004: Jacob Lair, 26, Sparks, Nevada 62. June 16, 2004: Abel Ortega Perez, 36, Austin, Texas 63. June 23, 2004: Robert Bagnell, 44, Vancouver, British Columbia 64. June 24, 2004: Kris Lieberman, 32, Bushkill Township, Pennsylvania 65. June, 2004: Bernard Christmas, 36, Dayton, Ohio 66. July 3, 2004: Demetrius Tillman Nelson, 45, Okaloosa County, Florida 67. July 11, 2004: Willie Smith, 48, Auburn, Washington 68. July 17, 2004: Jerry Knight, 29, Mississauga, Ontario 69. July 23, 2004: Milton Salazar, 29, Mesa Arizona 70. August 2, 2004: Keith Tucker, 47, Las Vegas, Nevada 71. August 8, 2004: Samuel Truscott, 43, Kingston, Ontario 72. August 11, 2004: Ernest Blackwell, 29, St. Louis, Missouri 73. August 11, 2004: David Riley, 41, Joplin, Missouri 74. August 13, 2004: Anthony Lee McDonald, 46, Harrisburg, North Carolina 75. August 16, 2004: William Teasley, 31, Anderson, South Carolina 76. August 19, 2004: Richard Karlo, 44, Denver, Colorado 77. August 20, 2004: Michael Sanders, 40, Fresno, California 78. August 24, 2004: Lawrence Davis, 27, Phoenix, Arizona 79. August 27, 2004: Jason Yeagley, 32, Winter Haven, Florida 80. August 29, 2004: Michael Rosa, 38, Del Rey Oaks, California 81. September 12, 2004: Samuel Wakefield, 22, Rio Vista, Texas 82. September 15, 2004: Andrew Washington, 21, Vallejo, California 83. September 20, 2004: Jon Merkle, 40, Miami, Florida 84. October 4, 2004: Dwayne Dunn, 33, Lafayette, Louisiana 85. November 2, 2004: Greshmond Gray, 25, LaGrange, Georgia 86. November 2, 2004: Robert Guerrero, 21, Fort Worth, Texas 87. November 7, 2004: Keith Raymond Drum, Clearlake, Califormnia 88. November 8, 2004: Ricardo Zaragoza, 40, Elk Grove, California 89. November 25, 2004: Charles Keiser, 47, Hartland Township, Michigan 90. November 27, 2004: Byron Black, 39, Lee County, Florida 91. December 4, 2004: Patrick Fleming, 35, Metairie, Louisiana 92. December 15, 2004: Kevin Downing, 36, Hollywood, Florida 93. December 17, 2004: Douglas Meldrum, 37, Wasatch County, Utah 94. December 17, 2004: Lyle Nelson, 35, Columbia, Illinois 95. December 23, 2004: Timothy Bolander, 31, Delray Beach, Florida 96. December 23, 2004: Ronnie Pino, 31, Sacramento, California 97. December 28, 2004: Christopher Hernandez, 19, Naples, Florida 98. December 29, 2004: Jeanne Hamilton, 46, Palmdale, California 99. December 30, 2004: David Cooper, 40, Marion County, Indiana 100. January 2, 2005: Gregory Saulsbury, 30, Pacifica, California 101. January 5, 2005: Dennis Hyde, 30, Akron, Ohio 102. January 7, 2006: Carlos Claros Castro, 28, Davidson City, North Carolina 103. January 8, 2005: Carl Trotter, 33, Pensacola, Florida 104. January 10, 2005, Jerry Moreno, 33, Los Angeles, California 105. January 28, 2005: James Edward Hudson, 33, Chickasha, Oklahoma 106. January 31, 2005: Jeffrey Turner, 41, Lucas County, Ohio 107. February 10, 2005: Ronald Alan Hasse, 54, Chicago, Illinois 108. February 12, 2005: Robert Camba, 45, San Diego, California 109. February 18, 2005: Joel Don Casey, 52, Houston, Texas 110. February 20, 2005: Robert Heston, 40, Salinas, California 111. March 3, 2005: Shirley Andrews, 38, Cincinnati, Ohio 112. March 6, 2005: Willie Towns, 30, Deland, Florida 113. March 12, 2005: Milton Woolfolk, 39, Lake City, Florida 114. March 17, 2005: Mark Young, 25, Indianapolis, Indiana 115. April 3, 2005: James Wathan Jr., 32, Delhi, California 116. April 3, 2005: Eric Hammock, 43, Fort Worth, Texas 117. April 8, 2005: Ricky Barber, 46, Carter County, Oklahoma 118. April 22, 2005: John Cox, 39, Bellport, New York 119. April 24 2005: Jesse Colter, 31, Phoenix, Arizona 120. May 3, 2005: Keith Graff, 24, Phoenix, Arizona 121. May 5, 2005: Kevin Geldart, 34, Moncton, New Brunswick 122. May 6, 2005: Stanley Wilson, 44, Miami, Florida 123. May 6, 2005: Lawrence Berry, 33, Jefferson Parish, Louisiana 124. May 13, 2005: Vernon Young, 31, Union Township, Ohio 125. May 17, 2005: Leroy Pierson, Rancho Cucamonga, California 126. May 20, 2005: Randy Martinez, 40, Albuquerque, New Mexico 127. May 23, 2005: Lee Marvin Kimmel, 38, Reading, Pennsylvania 128. May 23, 2005: Richard Alverado, 38, Tustin, California 129. May 26, 2005: Walter Lamont Seats, 23, Nashville, Tennessee 130. May 28, 2005: Richard T. Holcomb, 18, Akron, Ohio 131. May 28, 2005: Nazario J. Solorio, 38, Escondido, California 132. June 4, 2005: Ravan Conston, 33, Sacramento, California 133. June 7, 2005: Russell Walker, 47, Las Vegas, Nevada 134. June 11, 2005: Horace Owens, 48, Fort Lauderdale, Florida 135. June 13, 2005: Michael Anthony Edwards, 32, Palatka, Florida 136. June 13, 2005: Shawn Pirolozzi, 30, Canton, Ohio 137. June 14, 2005: Robert Earl Williams, 62, Waco, Texas 138. June 24, 2005: Carolyn Daniels, 25, Fort Worth, Texas 139. June 24, 2005: Melinda Kaye Neal, 33, Whitfield County, Georgia 140. June 29, 2005: Pharoah Knight, 33, Miami, Florida 141. June 30, 2005: Gurmeet Sandhu, 41, Surrey, B.C. 142. July 1, 2005: James Foldi, 39, Beamsville, Ont. 143. July 7, 2005: Rocky Brison, 41, Birmingham, Alabama 144. July 12, 2005: Kevin Omas, 17, Euless, Texas 145. July 15, 2005: Ernesto Valdez, 37, Phoenix, Arizona 146. July 15, 2005: Paul Sheldon Saulnier, 42, Digby, Nova Scotia 147. July 15, 2005: Otis G. Thrasher, 42, Butte, Montana 148. July 17, 2005: Michael Leon Critchfield, 40, West Palm Beach, Florida 149. July 18, 2005: Carlos Casillas Fernandez, 31, Santa Rosa, California 150. July 23, 2005: Maury Cunningham, 29, Lancaster, South Carolina 151. July 27, 2005: Terrence L. Thomas, 35, Rockville Centre, New York 152. August 1, 2005: Brian Patrick O’Neal, San Jose, California 153. August 3, 2005: Eric Mahoney, 33, Fremont, California 154. August 4, 2005: Dwayne Zachary, 44, Sacramento, California 155. August 5, 2005: Olsen Ogoddide, 38, Glendale, Arizona 156. August 8, 2005: Unidentified male, 47, Phoenix, Arizona 157. August 26, 2005: Shawn Norman, 40, Laurelville, Ohio 158. August 27, 2005: Brian Lichtenstein, 31, Stuart, Florida 159. September 18, 2005: David Anthony Cross, 44, Santa Cruz, California 160. September 22, 2005: Timothy Michael Torres, 24, Sacramento, California 161. September 24, 2005: Patrick Aaron Lee, 21, Nashville, Tennessee 162. September 26, 2005: Michael Clark, 33, Austin, Texas 163. October 13, 2005: Steven Cunningham, 45, Fort Myers, Florida 164. October 20, 2005: Jose Perez, 33, San Leandro, California 165. October 25, 2005: Timothy Mathis, 35, Loveland, Colorado 166. November 1, 2005: Miguel Serrano, 35, New Britain, Connecticut 167. November 13, 2005: Josh Brown, 23, Lafayette, Louisiana 168. November 17, 2005: Jose Angel Rios, 38, San Jose, California 169. November 20, 2005: Hansel Cunningham, 30, Des Plaines, Illinois 170. November 26, 2005: Tracy Rene Shippy, 35, Fort Meyers, Florida 171. November 30, 2005: Kevin Dewayne Wright, 39, Kelso, Washington 172. December 1, 2005: Jeffrey Earnhardt, 47, Orlando, Florida 173. December 7, 2005: Michael Tolosko, 31, Sonoma, California 174. December 17, 2005: Howard Starr, 32, Florence, South Carolina 175. December 24, 2005: Alesandro Fiacco, 33, Edmonton, Alberta 176. December 29, 2005: David Moss, 26, Omaha, Nebraska 177. January 3, 2006: Roberto Gonzalez, 34, Waukegan, Illinois 178. January 5, 2006: Matthew Dunlevy, 25, Laguna Beach, California 179. January 13, 2006: Daryl Dwayne Kelley, 29, Houston, Texas 180. January 16, 2006: Shmekia Lewis (female), 24, Beaumont, Texas 181. January 22, 2006: Nick Ryan Hanson, 24, Ashland, Oregon 182. January 25, 2006: Murray Bush, Metairie, Louisiana 183. January 27, 2006: Jorge Luis Trujillo, San Jose, California 184. January 28, 2006: Karl W. Marshall, 32, Kansas City, Missouri 185. January 29, 2006 Benites Sichero, 39, Spokane County, Washington 186. January 31, 2006: Jaime Coronel, Castroville, California 187. February 6, 2006: Jessie Williams Jr., 40, Harrison County, Mississippi 188. February 13, 2006: Darval Smith, New Orleans, Louisiana 189. February 19, 2006: Gary Bartley, 36, Mandeville, Louisiana 190. February 24, 2006: Samuel Hair, 48, Fort Pierce, Florida 191. March 4, 2006: Melvin Anthony Jordan, 27, Norman, Oklahoma 192. March 8, 2006: Robert R. Hamilton, 42, St. Augustine, Florida 193. March 18, 2006: Otto Zehm, 35, Spokane, Washington 194. March 18, 2006, Cedric Davis, 26, Merced County, California 195. March 20, 2006: Timothy Grant, 46, Portland, Oregon 196. March 24, 2006: Theodore Rosenberry, 35, Hagerstown, Maryland 197. April 5, 2006: Thomas Clint Tipton, 34, Clearwater, Florida 198. April 15, 2006: Nick Mamino Jr., 41, St. Louis, Missouri 199. April 16, 2006: Billy Ray Cook, 39, Dublin, North Carolina 200. April 16, 2006: Juan Manuel Nunez III, 27, Lubbock, Texas 201. April 18, 2006: Richard McKinnon, 52, Cumberland County, North Carolina 202. April 21, 2006: Alvin Itula, 35, Salt Lake City, Utah 203. April 24, 2006: Jose Romero, 23, Dallas, Texas 204. April 24, 2006: Emily Marie Delafield, 56, Green Cove Springs, Florida 205. May 1, 2006: Jeremy Davis, 24, Bellmead, Texas 206. May 7, 2006: Kenneth Cleveland, 63, Ashtabula, Ohio 207. May 25, 2006: Brian Davis, 43, Los Angeles, California 208. June 4, 2006: Felipe Herrera, 48, Las Vegas, Nevada 209. June 13, 2006: Jerry Preyer, 43, Pensacola, Florida 210. June 18, 2006: Jason Troy Dockery, 31, Coolville, Tennessee 211. June 21, 2006: Kenneth Eagleton, 43, Crosby, Texas 212. June 21, 2006: Joseph Stockdale, 26, Indianapolis, Indiana 213. June 24, 2006: John Martinez, San Jose, California 214. July 3, 2006: Jermail Williams, 32, South Bend, Indiana 215. July 7, 2006: Michael Deon Babers, 26, Shreveport, Louisiana 216. July 8, 2006: Christopher Tull, 36, Cincinnati, Ohio 217. July 9, 2006: Nickolos Cyrus, 29, Mukwonago, Wisconsin 218. July 11, 2006: Jesus Negron, 29, New Britain, Connecticut 219. July 20, 2006: Mark McCullaugh, 28, Akron, Ohio 220. July 23, 2006: Shannon Johnson, 37, Pittsboro, North Carolina 221. August 2, 2006: Anthony Jones, 39, Merced, California 222. August 4, 2006: Ryan Michael Wilson, 22, Lafayette, Colorado 223. August 8, 2006: Curry McCrimmon, 26, Melbourne, Florida 224. August 8, 2006: James Nunez, 27, Santa Ana, California 225. August 9, 2006: Glen Thomas, 33, Wabasso, Florida 226. August 17, 2006: Raul Gallegos-Reyes, 34, Centennial, Colorado 227. August 21, 2006: Timothy Picard, 41, Woonsocket, Rhode Island 228. August 23, 2006: Noah Lopez,25, Fort Worth, Texas 229. August 30, 2006: Jason Doan, 28, Red Deer, Alberta 230. September 1, 2006: Juan Soto, Jr., 39, Liberal, Kansas 231. September 4, 2006, Jesus Mejia, 33, Los Angeles, California 232. September 5, 2006: Larry Noles, 52, Louisville, Kentucky 233. September 8, 2006: Perry Simmons, 35, Montgomery, Alabama 234. September 13, 2006: Laborian Simmons, 24, Marion County, Florida 235. September 17, 2006: Marcus Roach-Burris, 42, Menasha, Wisconsin 236. September 17, 2006: James Philip Chasse Jr., 42, Portland, Oregon 237. September 29, 2006: Joseph Kinney, 36, Madison Twp., Ohio 238. September 30, 2006: Vardan Kasilyan, 29, Las Vegas, Nevada 239. September 30, 2006: John David Johnson III, 27, Orange Park, Florida 240. October 1, 2006: Kip Darrell Black, 38, North Charleston, South Carolina 241. October 5, 2006: Michael Templeton, 50, Jonesboro, Arkansas 242. October 6, 2006: Herman Carroll, 31, Houston, Texas 243. October 9, 2006: James Simons, 35, Lincoln Park, Michigan 244. October 19, 2006: James Lewis, 37, Las Vegas, Nevada 245. October 19, 2006: Nicholas Brown, Milford, Connecticut 246. October 22, 2006: Jordan Case, 20, Tualatin, Oregon 247. October 22, 2006: Eddie Charles Ham Jr., 30, Montgomery, Alabama 248. October 23, 2006: Michael Todd Gleim, 40, Milford, Ohio 249. October 29, 2006: Roger Holyfield, 17, Jerseyville, Illinois 250. October 30, 2006: Jeremy Foos, 29, Columbus, Ohio 251. November 9, 2006: William Jobe, 40, Federal Way, Washington 252. November 14, 2006: Timothy Wayne Newton, 43, Rocky Mount, North Carolina 253. November 14, 2006: Darren Faulkner, 41, Southaven, Mississippi 254. December 3, 2006: Briant K. Parks, 39, Columbus, Ohio 255. December 17, 2006: Terrill Enard, 29, Lafayette, Louisiana 256. December 30, 2006: Daniel Walter Quick, 43, Magalia, California ???. January 2007: James Barber, 25, Ottawa, Ontario 257. January 5, 2007: Calvin Thompson, 42, Gastonia, North Carolina 258. January 6, 2007: Douglas John Ilten, 45, Fort Pierce, Florida 259. January 7, 2007: Blondel Lassegue, 38, Queen’s, New York 260. January 9, 2007: Pete Carlos Madrid, 44, Fresno, California 261. January 17, 2007: Keith Kallstrom, 56, Milan, Michigan 262. January 18, 2007: Andrew J. Athetis, 18, Gilbert, Arizona 263. January 29, 2007: Michael Keohan, 45, Huntingdon Park, California 264. January 30, 2007: Christopher L. McCargo, 43, Dayton, Ohio 265. February 11, 2007: Stephen Krohn, 44, Mesa, Arizona 266. February 21, 2007: Martin Mendoza, 43, Oceanside, California 267. March 13, 2007: Muszack Nazaire, 24, East Naples, Florida 268. March 15, 2007: Randy Buckey, 42, Marion, Ohio 269. March 16, 2007: Ryan Lee Myers, 40, Essex, Maryland 270. March 17, 2007: David Brown, 47, Park Forest, Illinois 271. March 17, 2007: Unidentified male, West Covina, CA 272. March 23, 2007: Sergio Galvan, 35, San Antonio, Texas 273. April 10, 2007: Eugene Donjuall Gilliam, 22, Prattville, Alabama 274. April 11, 2007: Roberto Perez, 25, Indio, California 275. April 14, 2007: Unidentified male, Phoenix, Arizona 276. April 22, 2007: David Mills, 26, Hamden, Connecticut 277. April 23, 2007: Unidentified male, Houston, Texas 278. April 24, 2007: Louis Jermaine Broomfield, 35, Charleston, South Carolina 279. April 24, 2007: Walter Heller, 55, Santa Rosa, California 280. April 24, 2007: Uywanda Peterson, 43, Baltimore, Maryland 281. April 30, 2007: Roy Hamner, 59, Pearl, Mississippi 282. May 5, 2007: Daniel Bradley Young, 33, Seminole, Florida 283. May 7, 2007: Robert A. Keske, 45, Seminole, Florida 284. May 12, 2007: Trent A. Yohe, 37, Spokane, Washington 285. May 12, 2007: Jeffry Young, 54, Bremerton, Washington 286. May 14, 2007: Terrill Heath, 31, Baltimore, Maryland 287. May 15, 2007: Chance W. Shrum, 20 years old, Iola, Kansas 288. May 16, 2007: Patrick D. Hagans, 42, Valleyview, Ohio 289. May 19, 2007: Milisha Thompson, 35, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 290. May 22, 2007: Kevin DeWayne Hill, 39, Knoxville, Tennessee 291. May 23, 2007: Raymundo Guerrerro Garcia, 33, Simi Valley, California 292. May 25, 2007: Steve Salinas, 47, San Jose, California 293. May 26, 2007: Marcus D. Skinner, 22, Seat Pleasant, Maryland 294. May 29, 2007: Doyle Moniki Jackson, 34, Benton Harbor, Indiana 295. May 29, 2007: Ramel Henderson, 51, San Diego, California 296. June 19, 2007: Juan Flores Lopez, 47, San Angelo, Texas 297. July 2, 2007: Richard Baisner, 36, Pasadena, California 298. July 8, 2007: Nathaniel Cobbs Jr., 25, Newburgh, New York 299. July 16, 2007: Albert Romero, 47, Denver, Colorado 300. July 20, 2007: Jermaine Thompson, 36, Kansas City, Missouri 301. July 25, 2007: Carlos Rodriguez, 27, Atlanta, Georgia 302. July 29, 2007: Ronald Marquez, 49, Phoenix, Arizona 303. August 2, 2007: Clyde Patrick, 44, Birmingham, Alabama 304. August 4, 2007: Gefery Johnston, 42, Chicago, Illinois 305. August 4, 2007: Stephen Spears, 49, Detroit, Michigan 306. August 4, 2007: James Barnes, 21, Omaha, Nebraska 307. August 11, 2007: Craig Berdine, 37, Fremont, Ohio 308. August 14, 2007: Rafael Forbes, 21, Jackson, Mississippi 309. August 15, 2007: James Wells, 43, Waterford, California (no. 275) 310. August 18, 2007: Thomas Campbell, 50, Baltimore, Maryland 311. August 23, 2007: Chad Cekas, 27, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 312. August 26, 2007: Glenn Shipman Jr., 44, Portland, Oregon 313. September 3, 2007: Earl Guerrant, 47, Golf Manor, Ohio 314. September 3, 2007: Charles Gordon, 26, Vallejo, California 315. September 9, 2007: Jorge Renteria Terrquiz, 25, Anaheim, California 316. September 20, 2007: Claudio Castagnetta, 32, Quebec City, Quebec 317. October 1, 2007: Samuel Baker, 59, Quitman, Georgia 318. October 1, 2007: Keith White, 44, Kansas City, Kansas 319. October 12, 2007: Michael Patrick Lass, 28, Orange County, California 320. October 14, 2007: Robert Dziekanski, 40, Richmond, BC 321. October 14, 2007: Donald Clark Grant, 54, Asheville, North Carolina 322. October 17, 2007: Quilem Registre, 39, Montreal, Quebec 323. November 1, 2007: Seldon Deshotels, 56, Lake Charles, Louisiana 324. November 2, 2007: Stefan McMinn, 44, Hendersonville, North Carolina 325. November 7, 2007: Roger Brown, 40, Miami, Florida 326. November 16, 2007: Paul Carlock, 57, Springfield, Illinois 327. November 18, 2007: Jesse Saenz, 20, Raton, New Mexico 328. November 18, 2007: Jarrel Gray, 20, Frederick, Maryland 329. November 18, 2007: Christian Allen, 21, Springfield, Florida 330. November 20, 2007: Conrad Lowman, Jacksonville, Florida 331. November 22, 2007: Howard Hyde, 45, Halifax, Nova Scotia 332. November 24, 2007: Robert Knipstrom, 36, Chilliwack, British Columbia 333. November 29, 2007: Ashley R. Stephens, 28, Ocala, Florida 334. November 30, 2007: Cesar Silva, 32, Los Angeles, California 335. December 10, 2007: Leroy Patterson Jr., 41, Walton County, Georgia 336. January 2, 2008: Brandon Smiley, 27, Mobile, Alabama 337. January 5, 2008: Ryan Rich, 33, Las Vegas, Nevada 338. January 9, 2008: Otis C. Anderson, 36, Fayetteville, North Carolina 339. January 11, 2008: Xavier Jones, 29, Coral Gables, Florida 340. January 15, 2008: Mark Backlund, 29, New Brighton, Minnesota 341. January 17, 2008: Baron Pikes, 21, Winnfield, Louisiana 342. January 18, 2008: Daniel Hanrahan, 44, Staten Island, New York 343. February 3, 2008: Louis Cryer, 32, Port Arthur, Texas 344. February 3, 2008: Joseph Davis, 50, Brandon, Mississippi 345. February 7, 2008: Richard Earl Abston, 53, Merced, California 346. February 19, 2008: Garrett Sean Farn, 41, Bakersfield, California 347. February 26, 2008: Barron Harvey Davis, 44, Mayes County, Oklahoma 348. March 4, 2008: Christopher Jackson, 37, Clay, New York 349. March 6, 2008: Javier Aguilar, 46, Roswell, New Mexica 350. March 18, 2008: Roberto Gonzalez, 24, Chicago, Illinois 351. March 20, 2008: Darryl Wayne Turner, 17, Charlotte, North Carolina 352. March 21, 2008: James Garland, 41, Deerfield Beach, Florida 353. March 29, 2008: Henry Bryant, 35, Indianapolis, Indiana 354. March 30, 2008: Walter Edward Haake Jr., 59, Topeka, Kansas 355. April 2, 2008: Jason Jesus Gomez, 35, Santa Ana, California 356. April 6, 2008: Yvelt Occean, 31, New Kent County, Virginia 357. April 22, 2008: Uriah Samson Dach, 26, Richmond, California 358. April 24, 2008: Kevin Piskura, 24, Cincinnati, Ohio 359. April 24, 2008: Dewayne Chatt, 39, Memphis, Tennessee 360. April 27, 2008: Paul Thompson, 24, Greensboro, North Carolina 361. April 28, 2008: Jermaine Ward, 28, Jackson, Tennessee 362. May 4, 2008: Joe Kubat, 21, St. Paul, Minnesota 363. May 6, 2008: James S. Wilson, 22, Alton, Missouri 364. May 28, 2008: Ricardo Manuel Abrahams, 44, Woodland, California 365. May 31, 2008: Robert Ingram, 27, Raceland, Louisiana 366. June 5, 2008: Willie Maye, 43, Birmingham, Alabama 367. June 6, 2008: Donovan Graham, 39, Meriden, Connecticut 368. June 8, 2008: Quintrell T. Brannon, 25, Vincennes, Indiana 369. June 9, 2008: Tony Curtis Bradway, 26, Brooklyn, New York 370. June 23, 2008: Jeffrey Marreel, 36, Norfolk, Ontario 371. June 24, 2008: Ernest Graves, 26, Rockford, Illinois 372. June 27, 2008: Nicholas Cody, 27, Dothan, Alabama 373. July 2, 2008: Isaac Bass, 34, Louisville, Kentucky 374. July 4, 2008: Othello Pierre, 23, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 375. July 8, 2008: Samuel DeBoise, 29, St. Louis, Missouri 376. July 8, 2008: Carlos Vargas, 42, San Bernardino, California 377. July 14, 2008: Marion Wilson Jr., 52, Houston, Texas 378. July 14, 2008: Deshoun Keyon Torrence, 18, Long Beach, California 379. July 22, 2008: Michael Langan, 17, Winnipeg, Manitoba 380. July 23, 2008: Richard Smith, 46, Dallas, Texas 381. July 26, 2008: Anthony Davidson, Statesville, 29, North Carolina 382. August 4, 2008: Jerry Jones, 45, Beaumont, Texas 383. August 4, 2008: Andre Thomas, 37, Swissvale, Pennsylvania 384. August 2, 2008: Lawrence Rosenthal, 54, Hemet, California 385. August 10, 2008: Kiethedric Hines, 31, Rockford, Illinois 386. 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March 19, 2010: Albert Valencia, 31, Downey, California You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Yes, airports can be annoying. Especially when we're trying to jump and other aircraft cause you to wait on the ground while they take up the runways and airspace. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Yep.. much cheaper than that expensive process of lethal injection. We could also give them toilet bowl 'curbies' and then make them flush their own teeth down the drain. Actually, Andy9o8's method of burning them to death would be more appropriate. But I don't agree with harming their dogs. It would be better to feed their remains to their pets. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Their IQ's are normal. They were raised in American and were brought up properly by literate parents. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I have quite a few Arab friends. We joke around a lot since they aren't fanatics. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

(do you suggest marking 'these' people in some way so we can identify them. perhaps putting them in a specific area away from high IQ people) Great idea! Maybe we can make them wear a patch like the jews had to wear in Germany. How about a "Camel" patch? You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I disagree. Hackers (dysfunctional human beings) who disrupt functional people should be given a choice. They can be permanently blinded or have their spinal cord severed rendering them quadriplegic. On second thought, guess who would have to flip the bill for their care? I vote for death by hanging. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

are we talking jews or arabs here? I don't think Israelis have low IQ's or literacy so arabs are a bit 'substandard' as humans? Substandard? I love when people twist words to come up with their own meanings. Because people are undereducated, fanatical or just plain stupid fucks, it doesn't mean they are less human. However history has shows that "these" humans generally take more from society than they give. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

are we talking jews or arabs here? I don't think Israelis have low IQ's or literacy You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

When I read that a growing majority of American oppose Israel building settlements, it’s because they aren’t told the facts, just a bunch of rhetoric. The 1600 units they propose to build in Jerusalem that aren’t just for Jews, they are also for Arab and Palestinian families as well. That sounds pretty generous of Israel. Besides, that land doesn’t belong to the Palestinians, it belongs to Israel, just like Texas belongs to the United States. Actually, the Arabs and Palestinians have always shrugged the opportunity to be part of the political scene in Jerusalem. The 31 member “Democratic” City Council headed by the mayor allows for Arabs and Palestinians to be a part of all decisions in regards to building, but they refuse. Partly because they are fanatics with an extremely low literacy rate (low IQ’s in general), others are threatened and intimidated by their own people. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

C You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

This is a good point. I wonder how many of those that have an AAD in case they are knocked out, have a reserve so small that the landing will kill them anyway. I think even a large reserve is still going to do lots of damage. Since the ram air parachute will assume a forward speed regardless, its gonna smash the face of anyone who is limp. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Yeah, How about all the groups that stay covert. The ones they catch simply slipped up. Bet there are a bunch of 'em out there that wont. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Where do you jump? Aside from the Cessna's (and I think you mean 182/206), almost every jump pilot I've flown with hasn't worn a rig. I have NEVER seen a Skyvan/Caravan/TwOtter/CASA/PAC pilot wear a rig. Not to say that it doesn't happen, but I am guessing it's a lot less common to have one, rather than not. Those Pilot who do not wear rigs while flying jumpers are the ones that nothing will ever happen to. They believe they are immortal. There are lots of people who take unnecessary chances. The cemeteries full of them. I personally bailed in the 70s' and I'm still here. Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I'm not sure what they're talking about, but they also claim the CompAir has some sort of design flaw that makes a spin recovery impossible, but I'm not sure if that's true. An inverted spin may be a problem, as in this case, but it may also be 'pilot error' for not knowing how to recover from an inverted spin (I have no idea how to recover from an inverted spin. I've never flown an aircraft upside down, on purpose or otherwise). The weight of the jumpers might have contributed to the problem of getting out of it. I found the best way to get out of a similar situation (which was done on purpose in aerobatic planes) was just to let go of everything and it should right itself. However the pilot should never have let it stall in the first place. There is a stall warning that should activate 5 knots before the stall as well as the buffeting most planes experience before a full stall. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

I jump with one, but probably won't do much good if it fires. Looking at others impaired means you will probably smash the hell out of your face and head unless you can steer. Makes a good argument for going back to a round reserve. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Looks like this one. CC-PJE Compair http://www.flickr.com/photos/11126384@N04/1587738607 Well, that "CC-PJE" looks more like it than this one: http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?search_active=1&search=&sheadline=&domains=Airliners.net&sitesearch=Airliners.net&client=pub-8297169501225184&forid=1&channel=1924797129&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23E6E8FA%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23000000%3BVLC%3AE6E8FA%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3A45678C%3BLBGC%3A45678C%3BALC%3AE6E8FA%3BLC%3AE6E8FA%3BT%3AC4C8CC%3BGFNT%3AC4C8CC%3BGIMP%3AC4C8CC%3BLH%3A36%3BLW%3A639%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcdn-www.airliners.net%2Fgraphics%2Fopen_file_header_image.jpg%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.airliners.net%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en&search_field=datedesc&q=cc-pje&submit= Do they re-use numbers down there? CC is Chili http://aircraft-registration-country-codes.blogspot.com/ You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime

Been looking through the aviation reports from around the world and can't find anything yet. Must have been overseas though, the video doesn't have the usual annoying commercials. Makes me think about all the poor bastards shot down during the war from 30,000 ft. It gave them a long time to think about it. You live more in the few minutes of skydiving than many people live in their lifetime